Can a bard achieve 40 hit point Regeneration with 18 on Suit PLUS 22 from Resilience active?

Can a bard achieve 40 hit point Regeneration with 18 on Suit PLUS 22 from Resilience actived?

Just wondering like what it would be like if u could do that and gain 4 hp every SECOND while popping Confidence. How quickly ur HP would sky rocket back to full hp. Every 5 seconds gaining 20 HP just from regen and not counting confidence.

And I'm guessin you'll be correct, Poo....

18 is the Cap for HCI from Items. However the bard abilities are only subject to the item cap limits where they share caps with magical effect limits.
In the case of Damage Increase, the Cap is 100 for both items and magical effects, so it is a shared cap where both add to the same pool. So if you have 100 from items, and 20 from Divine fury, your limit is still 100.

In terms of HP regen, the limit from items is 18. However, I don't believe there is a limit on magical effects. (HP regen in animal forms, necro forms, and confidence) all use magical HP regen effects. Confidence can reach at least 100 HPR at 120 Bushido. (40HP in 4 Secons 10HP/S).

Your best bet is to try a 0 HP regen suit, and a 18 hp regen suit and check the regen rates with the bard abilities on.

Now what I dont know is whether its a shared pool, or a cumulative pool, so that if you get 18 from items and 22 from bard(magic effect), if you are counted as 22 (since magical effect is not capped) OR if its the sum of both effects 40 (18 from items and 22 from magical effects).

I suspect that if you are not noticing much difference then its a shared pool like damage increase but only one is capped, and so if you are at 18 it doesnt bother to add the item effects, so you are in effect just getting 22.

Another question.... Does this 18 HP Regen cap apply to PETS/SUMMONS as well? Or is there even a cap when it comes to them? The reason I ask is because a 4x bard can give out 22 in regen to its party or pets/summons. Since players HP Regen cap is at 18... Do summons/pets even have a cap on HP Regen? If they have a cap of 18 then what's the point in being able to distribute 22 hp regen as a 4x bard if the caps 18 for everything?

It applies to summons/pets. Pet HP Regen cap from items is 18, If a bard is putting out 22, then the player is at minimum 22. Not sure if you get the higher of items and magical regeneration So if you have 18 on suit and 22 from bard you get 22, OR 40 but you definitely get the 22.

I tested this with spellweaving and when my pixies got 16 HP Regen from being 2x bard there health went from red lined back to full VERY quickly... I don't know though if they would benefit from 4x bard with the 22 regen or not though, if they do then it'd be even quicker but the 4x bard is so tight of a template I mean u couldnt do anything really.

Pets definitely benefit from the masteries.
Summons you may need to verify, the recent patch touched on some flagging/bene issue for bards so I dont know if the abilities still apply to summons. But if the patch didnt break that then the bonuses do transfer to summons.

Whenever you get 2 bards running masteries it tends to mean a whole lotta trouble for the targets.

can u imagine having invigorate, inspire, resilience, AND preserverence up at the fel yew gate from 2 bards sitting in guard zone... So you go out and attack whoever and whatever knowin ull be safe pretty much

I remember them talking about doing away with the "hard caps" and moving to diminishing return scale. I want to say Draconi was the first one to actually mention it. Unless I am wrong {which I am often here lately lol} the diminishing return deal was implemented a little whle back. You can build as much regen on a suit, and use all the other regen aids to go above the old hard cap. Once you hit a certain point level of regen the returns you get are so miniscule it's not worth having it as a mod. Or that's how it was pitched in theory.

Ahhh, ok. That could be, mr is honestly the only one I worry with. I haven't looked into the masteries at all on my bard yet. With those kind of bumps I dang sure will tho.

Can you use a mastery while in animal form. I havent played a bard since enticement was there before disco lol. I loved having 100 music and 75 provoke and provoking shadow wyrms on each other haha. But anyway what about a 18 hpr suit, world or dog form (whichever one gives the HPR I dont play a ninja) and the masteries.

You can't run a mastery in animal form. (no fingers to play the instrument)
But you get the buffs from someone else running it on you.

I can tell you from experience that two bards running the provoke and peace masteries together and discoing the mobs combined with two sampires is pretty darn near unkillable in PvM.

Heh... I used to run a 120 ninjitsu DOG character with 40 hp Regen from Dog form coupled with 18 HP Regen from Items & 2 HPR from being Human for a Grand Total of 60 hp Regen (6 per sec). Add in 4 sec bandes 120/120 Healing / Anat ... Actually 120 combat skills w/ no mana usage so you just swing swing swing and I could solo Slasher with that char though it would take like ~50 min's to kill lol. Anyway, was a good GROUP temp bc you could Xheal other's while everyone was frozen & not have to worry about dieing bc of the HP Regen.

hard caps of 30 mr 18 hpr and sr i think 30 also not sure on sr never cared! the hard cap being off gear however you can add in spellsongs on top of your 18 hpr for a 40 hpr!! but if you want to make some serious regen then go into dog or cat form with ninjitsu! then your looking at insane hpr!!

Where do you get a kyrss with HPR 9 on it?

Are they brittle and can they be PBD and can it be higher than 9?

You can get 18 HP, from items, I think Ninja Dog gives you up to 40, and Bard Mastery can give you up to 22, so thats a total of 80HPR.

Thanks, Poo!

MMh Throwing Ninja pupppy with shurikens 4tw!

Yeh I believe there's a HP regen cap from items of 18. (I may be wrong, if someone wants to test that.) but there's no cap i know of on HP regen from Magical means.

Yes its capped at 18.

Humans also already have +2 so they only need +16 HPR

Ummmm, I thought they did away with caps a while back and went to diminishing returns. No longer a max you can have, just the benefit of having more gives you less of an effect.

Ah right could well be. I always thought it was 18 (from UOGuide) so there is no limit now?

I get confused on whats capped and what ain't. Those two would definitely know better than I would. Everything just kinda blends together for me on most things....

Awesome Video Poo

Whats the song called? on a completely different note.. I fancy doing to the Bard Dance abit later on to it