Stealth is fine the way it is. Those that want passive detect or stealth changes are just being selfish and won't change their templates to get the skills to deal with stealthers. And my comment above is the very reason the devs need to read the posts and make decisions on what they can do. Debating faction artis / no faction artis, second character / no second character, passive detect / no passive detect, lower silver costs / high silver costs is over. Opening for suggestions again is just pushing things back 6 months and stalling for time while we bicker among ourselves once again. Maybe it would be easier to do things the other way round. Instead of us saying what we want only to have the devs say they can't do it, the devs should list the things they can do from the suggestions they have been given and we vote on what is a priority.