Greetings and salutations everybody, here is the new version of the "legacy pet" post. What's new? Uhm.... erm.... well .... Mordanna actually just requested to make it a new thread! Heheh. But there are news as of today, posted on UO.com by <font color=green>Greywolfe</font color=green>: <blockquote>"A lot of you have been asking about legacy pets in one fashion or another. I messaged Calandryll and asked him about whether the four colours of nightmares would be possible again and whether legacy nightmare colour would be taken care of now that legacy WWs are essentially coded. He responded that the answer to both of these questions was "probably, but not certain when." Note that this statement is not a promise of them coming in, nor is there a timetable attached to the possibility of the return of legacy colours. But there is still hope to be held on to--at least you can be assured that the Dev team is listening to your concerns on this issue. Safe travels!"</blockquote> Sadly, this doesn't sound too well compared to what the Dev Team stated earlier this year. /php-bin/shared/images/icons/frown.gif But I will leave it up for you to read anyway, even if I don't know about the current plans or lack thereof /php-bin/shared/images/icons/tongue.gif.... Some new info regarding the legacy white wyrm is below. <center>_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________</center> <font color=blue>(1) What are "legacy" pets?</font color=blue> <blockquote> Legacy is a term choosen by the OSI Dev Team to describe several kinds of animals that used to spawn in at least two different variations. More precisely, they are nightmares and white wyrms. A while ago, there was a patch which changed the spawn to one "standard" body, so Ultima Online: Third Dawn would recognize them with the new client, and display them as nightmares and white wyrms. So four different bodies of nightmares (2 short maned, one "blue long maned" and one "pure black") and two bodies of white wyrms ("dark" white wyrm and "pure white" wyrm) were reduced to one. </blockquote><font color=blue>(2) Okay, but how does that affect me?</font color=blue> <blockquote> Since the variety of "colors" has been reduced, those newer tamers or those who didn't tame one yet will never be able to tame some kind of pets, because they don't spawn anymore. In addition to this, tamers selling those legacy pets ask insane prices for their "rares". In UO:3D it also affects you in a different way. All legacy pets will not properly show with the client. Nightmares will show as horses, while white wyrms will show as dragons. This image was taken from <a target="_blank" href=http://www.tamingarchive.com/>The Taming Archive</a>, but slightly resized and converted into a *.jpg file so it would display with all browsers. In the top picture you see a "pure" white wyrm -> legacy pet, next to a current white wyrm. In the picture below you clearly see that the legacy wyrm doesn't display as a white wyrm at all, instead it appears to be a red dragon. Here is a picture of the nightmares in 2D and 3D. The mares in the back row are all legacy pets. The single mare is the new body of nightmare, the only one which currently displays properly in 3D. Legacy mares rom left to right: Easter, Blaze, Hope, Drusos Stand-alone new nightmare: Chance (R.I.P. 05/14/01) Thanks to <font color=blue>Elyssar</font color=blue> for providing Drusos, the "pure" mare in this picture! </blockquote><font color=blue>(3) One second, why are the short maned mares in that picture horses in 3D? I thought all short maned mares would look okay?</font color=blue> <blockquote> No, but that's a common mistake /php-bin/shared/images/icons/smile.gif. It's that OSI chose the body of the short maned nightmare which leads to this confusion. All nightmares which spawned prior to the patch are legacy mares. And since there are two kinds of short maned mares as well, this of course goes for them, too. Had OSI chosen the body of the "pure" mare it wouldn't have been any different, only the mares from after the patch do correctly convert yet. </blockquote><font color=blue>(4) Are legacy nightmares real horses in 3D, or do they still have nightmare stats?</font color=blue> <blockquote> Legacy pets still possess their full abilities in UO:3D, which is very bad in the case of nightmares, since they look like ordinary horses. It is only their looks which are wrong, their stats remain the same. </blockquote><font color=blue>(5) So will that be fixed?</font color=blue> <blockquote> Yes, the Dev Team at OSI is currently working on a fix for that problem. It will not affect any legacy pets in 2D, as stated by <font color=red>Calandryll</font color=red>. It will only fix their appearance in 3D. </blockquote><font color=blue>(6) What's the rumor about pure mares returning, then?</font color=blue> <blockquote> The Dev Team discovered that they could easily change the standard body of nightmares and white wyrms back to the different variations, because of the way the legacy pet fix works. <font color=red>Calandryll</font color=red> has also clearly expressed on UTB that he is looking forward for them to spawn again, because he feels that every player should have an equal chance of owning such a pet, and "not just those who possess enough money to purchase one". He said "they were never meant to be rare". </blockquote><font color=blue>(7) Does that mean they also make different skins of mares for UO:3d?!</font color=blue> <blockquote> Currently, there is no real info on that. It was said, however, that they're "not yet working on that", which could mean everything and nothing. They might eventually come, the possibility is there. But if so, then it is likely not going to be too soon. </blockquote><font color=blue>(8) So when's that going to happen?</font color=blue> <blockquote> Not in the near future, I am afraid. The fix requires a client and a server side update, so they can't implement it right now. However, it was important to <font color=red>Calandryll</font color=red> that it will go in as soon as possible. Which doesn't mean too soon, sorry for discouraging some of you now /php-bin/shared/images/icons/smile.gif 07/09/01 update: The legacy white wyrm is currently in testing on Chesapeake. It will be added to all other shards when they get the service update Chesapeake recently got. Thanks for your input, -James <font color=blue>"I try to get away from the Tamers' Forum, but they keep dragging me back in!"