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150 luck , confirmed changes were made, need help for testing (UPDATED)

Discussion in 'UO Craftsman' started by RaistlinNowhere, Aug 11, 2014.

  1. RaistlinNowhere

    RaistlinNowhere Slightly Crazed
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    Hi all, im redoing a full luck suit for my garg and have been almost 1 year since i have imbued a luck suit, when i made the post of making a luck suit with blacksmithing for a tamer.

    Im doing it with blacksmith now too, because its for a bard/mystic with necro so i dont mind about meditation.
    The prob i see now , is that i have used 5 full copper hammer with grand arti + inspired arti + auspice/fortune , like i did in the past but i havent hit any 150 luck piece now.

    So my question is, have they changed something to it?

    EDIT : i have done some testing in TC1 and almost can confirm they changed something because here are the results

    With copper runic :
    350 pieces with grand arti + inspired arti + auspice/fortune (3 charges per try) --> max luck 130 (even got some with 90)
    350 pieces with powerful + grand arti + inspired arti + auspice/fortune --> max luck 140 (almost all with an extra mod)

    With bronze runic:
    200 pieces with grand arti + inspired arti + auspice/fortune (3 charges per try) --> 4 x 150 luck , but always with 1 extra mod.

    After all this testing , i can almost confirm that have changed the % of the blacksmithing hammers, so the semmerset excels could be wrong now for black. I ask for help to check this because i cant do it alone ^^U
     
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  2. Tuan

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    I built a luck suit about 1-2 months ago, and was able to get 150 luck with the method you're using. Maybe you've just hit a bad luck run? I seem to recall needing about 2 hammers per piece, though admittedly I got a little lazy and settled on some 140 luck pieces.
     
  3. RaistlinNowhere

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    Have done 200 pieces with copper again (100 with each option) and have tested bronze runic as well :

    With copper : no change , same as the other test i did

    With bronze runic:
    200 pieces with grand arti + inspired arti + auspice/fortune (3 charges per try) --> 4 x 150 luck , but always with 1 extra mod.

    After all this testing , i can almost confirm that have changed the % of the blacksmithing hammers, so the semmerset excels could be wrong now for black. I ask for help to check this because i cant do it alone ^^U

    Have already update the main post with all this info.
     
  4. StealYourFace

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    I hopped on test last night because I couldn't remember if you needed to select powerful on a copper hammer to get 150 luck. I spent about 2 hours trying with and without powerful and the best I got was 140 luck.

    I switched to bronze and got 150 luck in about 5 tries. It had 1 wasted mod tho.

    This really sucks because I've got about 80 copper hammers and no bronze. That's kind of a crappy thing to change without telling anyone.

    I wonder what else has changed with reforging .
     
  5. Tuan

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    I am not sure your testing proves anything, other than that you have confirmation bias.
     
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    what my testing proves is that at least the blacksmithing reforging have changed , so the all the info we thought was true is now bad.

    My example is the best one, i tried to make 150 luck pieces with copper runics like before, and have wasted around 10 hammers until i did this test. If i would know all this, i wouldnt wasted those bods for copper runics, and have bribed them to bronze runic, and made the peices i needed :(
     
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    I am going to do some more testing tonight. I hope that we both just went through some bad luck trying to get the roll on the 150 luck. Ive had it happen before trying to make 10 stamina pieces. I didn't count how many pieces I reforged but I know that I burned about 3000 uses so that puts it around 750 to 1000. That just seems like too many tries for it to just be bad luck.

    The main thing that would suck about this is the mining part. Its easier to get gold ingots than it is to get agapite and verite .
     
  8. RaistlinNowhere

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    I recomend to do the testing in TC, free resources :D
     
  9. Duncan Drake

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    Strange. I crafted a luck suit some weeks ago. There were no problems getting 150 luck on it with copper hammers. 4 charges (poweful, inspired, grand, auspicious)
     
  10. RaistlinNowhere

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    duncan with that the max i got was 140 luck after 350+ items
     
  11. DJAd

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    I made a luck suit only yesterday and got 2x clean 150 luck weapons from 80 charges.
     
  12. Duncan Drake

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    Very strange
     
  13. RaistlinNowhere

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    djad using what exactly?
     
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    I made some plain exceptional hatchets and then reforged them using a copper hammer (of fortune) and a powerful charge.
     
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    ok, have done other 350+ items on TC1 with the same results of max of 140 luck, BUT i have done it on europa and got 150 luck after 15 pieces.....
    Theres something wrong in TC1, and i hope it wont live with next publish......
     
  16. CorwinXX

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    There is a new patch ALREADY on TC1. May it be new changes? I have tried to craft 100% elemental staff on TC1 and got max 90% with a powerful oak.
     
  17. Duncan Drake

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    I hope that doesnt apply to 154 intensity hml and hll weapons to. I guess i'll go and craft a couple of weapons just to be safe here
     
  18. Duncan Drake

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    ok did some testing on TC1. Leech effects with 154 intensity still work with copper hammers. Did some daishos and got 96 hml ones. Really strange it just happens with luck. this seems to be capped at 140 (just 140 intensity though)
     
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    Sounds like an accidental breakage from a change at a seemingly unrelated location affecting luck reforging.

    UO's code got to the "Butterfly Effect" level a decade ago. (aka something minor having unintended consequences on the far side of the code)
     
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  20. Lucky Luke

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    I made some weapons with copper runics to try get 100% hml but max I got was 96. I think I was making hammer picks. 96 the max? Anyone fill me in on the 154 intensity thing Duncan is referring to?
     
  21. Duncan Drake

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    Hammer picks should be 100 hll /hml
     
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    So did anyone test this further? Are these methods no longer capable of making 150 luck pieces?
     
  23. Duncan Drake

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    Dont know yet. Havent tried it so far. I hope it still works the old way
     
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    Yay, another in game project. I have been busy collecting and consolidating Bods so I can begin to reforge myself. I think it would be best to have a good data set before I waste all that time and energy.
     
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    I have recently finished making a Luck suit for a Tamer on Europa - finished as in the last week but before the patch storm..;p

    I can absolutely confirm that for armour and shields, 150 luck is attainable using Horned or Copper runics. INot selectable for most Barned options btw. I did not manage to reforge an acceptable 150 weapon with copper hammers but did make a 150 I didn't want by mistake...*sighs* I wound up with a good 140 and sheesh...when your base luck is 2200 plus..what's 10 luck between friends..;p
     
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    i use Bronze hammer and got my tamer sute but to make it 190 had to use another tool and to med i had to buy the mage armor for it
     
  27. Duncan Drake

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    I tried crafting 150 luck weapons with a copper hammer after the patch and can confirm that it doesnt work anymore. Max i got were 140 luck parts. With a bronze hammer 150 luck weapons were possible but i got too many unusable side stats here
     
  28. RaistlinNowhere

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    then is what fear the most, the patch come with some kind of bug that decrease the intensity of hammers, like we now until now or at least (and i hope) its only a prob with luck
     
  29. Waxx

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    do i understand this correct we cannot longer make 150 luck weapons / armor pieces with the copper + powerful?
     
  30. Duncan Drake

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    I only tested weapons. Armor i dont know yet
     
  31. Waxx

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    i tried yesterday to make ringmail legs with 150 (copper runic + power) 140 was most i got.
    after around 10 hammers i tried with bronze and there i got a 150 luck part, unfortunately you get at least one other mod with that hammer, for me it was poison resist which was ok but its crap in general
     
  32. CorwinXX

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    As to me 140 luck is as good as 150 luck.
     
  33. Waxx

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    @Corvin, ture,
    same with resist 69 or 70 is no real difference, but it is not "perfect" :)
     
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    I'm having issues with this now. Trying to make a 150 luck circlet and no "luck" so far. 130 is the best I've seen. :-(
     
  35. Smoot

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    im pretty sure its easier to get overcapped lucked on 2 handed weapons. it might just be for bows tho. pretty sure max luck for a bow is 170 before enhance.
     
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    use a golden hammer. a little more expensive but will save lots of time. select 2 mods for better chance at supporting mod to the luck.
     
  37. DJAd

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    Well how about that. Just tried a bronze hammer with powerful and my first one was 150 luck! I just wish I looked at the resists before !!
     
  38. RaistlinNowhere

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    theres no prob with bronze or golden, the prob here is with copper runic that doesnt work as before
     
  39. Duncan Drake

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    Yes and bronze gived you unwanted mods
     
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    i just made a 150 luck circlet .. an hour ago with copper reforge
     
  41. Waxx

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    i was not able to get any 150 piece with copper anymore. i think its not impossible as Azmo got one but the chances are ridiculously small.

    i was able to find some old pieces i made before the pub which fit but this dont make fun. lol

    nevertheless i use now weps with 140 base because i also got only **** with bronze hammers. (area damage, regenerations etc)

    have anyone tried horned kits since the publish?
     
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    yeah took me 6-8 or so hammers for that one piece... burned another 5 since with no results. :)
     
  43. DJAd

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    Aye it sure does. After having no luck with a copper I used a bronze (with powerful) and got 150 luck but it bumped two of the resists up slightly which I didn't notice until I went to imbue! This left me with not enough imbue slots for the mods I wanted :-(