So...can anyone tell me with pack insticts what's the higher dps? I see the hellounds and the frenzied ostards have the same "base damage" though obviously dif damage types (fire/phys mix compared to pure physical) The hellhounds also have the fire breath. I dont know if the fire breath "takes the palce of" their auto attack for that round or is it in addition to their normal attack giving them an overall bonus? So assume yer fighting the same resist target - Which has overall more dps the ostard or the hellound assuming you're using a pack of 5 for each? Or the 2 fire steeds? I heard someone post that 2 fire steeds (assuming you have someone else tanking) can do almost double of a greater dragon. I don't see how, the base damage is much lower.... Also note: i can do this with or without corpse skin. I'm wondering if the 15% resist lowering for fire would make the hellhoudns just "that" much better than the ostards....And would they still be better without corpse skin due to the fire breath, etc etc? get where I'm going? Sure I can spend weeks bonding and taming all these to test, but if the work has been done, it's better to ask.