Oh Uhall, hear my plight. I'm from the Formosa shard (yessss, the under-represented in Stratics), and this is the story of how our shard is dying--- (pvp)----: In terms of pvp, our shard is made up of three big guilds. We have less people on the entire shard, so it's basically always these three guilds, and we 'know' all the players from each side. As I said, the numbers are smaller, but the fights are not less intense, and many times, the 3-way dynamic makes for some very interesting tactics and politics. However, and to cut the long story short, a recent development has arose that is forcing two of these guilds to want to migrate over to other servers. How is this possible?!? Here's what happened: Basically, (I don't want to step into Uhall with the intention of flaming, but I AM prejudiced, hear me out), ... basically, BESIDES training up your own PVP skills, it seems one credible alternative for winning wars is to RECRUIT, RECRUIT, and RECRUIT. yep, so much so that you literally have 2x your enemies' numbers. ALWAYS. Yessir, gay gank/run-hide tactics CAN win the battle, where valour will not. I wish I'd recorded the video of the time I shot a -FUKIYA DART- at a guy from this gank guild, and he ran 5 screens before recalling. They never fight 1v1, and their mages are best at casting this spell: An Ex Por. Yep, the spell that keeps you waiting for the dismounters and the stealth deathstrikers to come out and do you in. OH MY GAWD -- just another whiner who's come to UHall to tell us how his guild suxxors and can't recruit enough people to face this gank guild, right? Haha.. the truth of the matter is that the two remaining guilds don't HAVE that interest in playing Bunnies Online. as far as I can tell, my guild and the other guild STILL have interest in ACTUAL PVP ---- where people still use uhm, other spells besides Paralyze, other special moves besides Dismount, and other templates besides GANK Templates. We DON'T want to play this numbers game of seeing who's got more 'guys' on their side. (oh yeah, and this gank guild uses Razor too, so that they can auto target you once you enter their screen If you don't think the problem is serious, the other non-gank guild has already told some of our members that they plan to move to the japanese servers. as for my own guild, the pvp numbers have started dwindling, because people (including me) are just SICK of being ganked, and ganked, and ganked, by newbies. Felucca is a barren land, and nowadays I don't even log on in the day time, because I know that any action in Felucca will be met with 2x/3x numbers in resistance. But anyway, I'm not here just to play a sad violin tale for anyone to cry (if anyone is), I'm here to point out one fatal flaw in the game that people have ALWAYS been complaining about, but has come to such a head in my shard, that I've recently been checking out PS3 prices, and wondering about going to Oblivion and GTA4 and so on. (and yeah, I'm kinda hardcore about uo, usually spending more time IN it than in real life in a given day, whenever time allows). The flaw is that ganking works. (especially so with some 'cutting-edge' 3rd-party programs). SOME game mechanic has to exist that could be devised by people smarter than me, to make the game balanced (the eternal holy grail for uo right?) in terms of numbers. so that you DON'T have to play Government/Army Online, constantly recruiting/training people JUST to have PARITY <-- in terms of numbers to fight. and, yes, before you flame me, we DO still engage in these crazy fights, 2 v10, (i'm not making up these numbers. my friend would draw 5 of them away from the rat spawn, leaving me a mere 5 in the island to handle), .. oh yeah, AGAIN i wish i had that picture, where I was stealthed, and my screen FILLED with orange names. FILLED with orange names, chasing down my poor 2 - 3 guildmates. we call it superman training. but even so, it gets kind of tiring after a while, to have your stealth appear, and have one guy mana vamp you, one guy bleed you, another to put his dragon on you, enough people to surround you so that you can't move etc etc. or am i just another whiner who should "go play something else if you can't handle it?", and disappear into Oblivion or Liberty City? What say you, Uhall?