Once upon a time there was shard called siege perilous. Once upon a time there wasa thing called player justice. Once upon a time guilds were judged by thier members actions. Once upon a time the only way for a guild/alliance not to be judged by thier members action was to make the member correct said action. If unable to correct the action in question then the only two options left to the guild in question were to A. Boot the offending member. B. Suffer the same treatment as the offending member. Guild leaders are often forced to make such unwanted decisions on this shard.