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A Letter from Live

Discussion in 'UO Spiels N Rants' started by Paris_Hilton, Feb 9, 2008.

  1. Paris_Hilton

    Paris_Hilton Guest

    So I felt like I had to reactivate my main account yesterday so my keep wouldn't fall down (was at about 88 days unpaid or so), and spill all my goodies onto the ground for idocers to cart off and sell on their vendors.



    I feel it was $12.99 (plus $1.04 tax! [​IMG]) totally and entirely wasted to be honest.


    Reasons I play Wow now instead of UO:


    1. Not a damned thing was or has been done about duped clothing; necro robes, duped gold Brit guard sash clothing, etc.

    2. EA employees still playing favorites with certain players; Jeremy encouraging players to participate in 'other players' events here on Stratics (show me the proof that these 'other players' are trustworthy enough for an EA employee to authorize such a thing because I for one have my doubts).

    3. BUY UO GOLD CHEATS HACKS HINTS POWER LEVELING DOT COM: named books characters spam all over Luna bank. Might as well go shopping irl because I felt like I was in the mall or watching tv commercials rather than immersed in an online fantasy world.

    4. Dyed armor in nearly every shade of the cloth dye tubs, but only available to the special few who had GM friends, relatives or were GMs themselves? Oh this should be listed with EA employees playing favorites shouldn't it?

    5. A large tower on Fel Ice Island named KFC and Koolaid Inside Colored Welcome which still stands although it has been reported months ago as being offensive (racial stereotyping). Hey EA/MYTHIC please put a warning on UO's website and any future boxed items and adverts that those of a certain nonCaucasian race are not welcome in UO. Unless they enjoy being the butt of certain tired old racist jokes?

    6. No time for a fullfledged check into scriptingville, but I see some scripters houses that still stand and are in no visible stage of decay, so same old same old apparently.


    7. Few players.



    I am ashamed now that I even mentioned the name of UO to anyone in Wow, how embarrassing to have to explain to them why all of the above is allowed to continued and why they should waste time trying to play a game with so many flaws.

    And still no one in WoW that I spoke to had ever heard of UO.

    The difference is now I think that is a good thing.
     
  2. <blockquote><hr>

    So I felt like I had to reactivate my main account yesterday so my keep wouldn't fall down (was at about 88 days unpaid or so), and spill all my goodies onto the ground for idocers to cart off and sell on their vendors.



    I feel it was $12.99 (plus $1.04 tax! [​IMG]) totally and entirely wasted to be honest.


    Reasons I play Wow now instead of UO:


    1. Not a damned thing was or has been done about duped clothing; necro robes, duped gold Brit guard sash clothing, etc.

    2. EA employees still playing favorites with certain players; Jeremy encouraging players to participate in 'other players' events here on Stratics (show me the proof that these 'other players' are trustworthy enough for an EA employee to authorize such a thing because I for one have my doubts).

    3. BUY UO GOLD CHEATS HACKS HINTS POWER LEVELING DOT COM: named books characters spam all over Luna bank. Might as well go shopping irl because I felt like I was in the mall or watching tv commercials rather than immersed in an online fantasy world.

    4. Dyed armor in nearly every shade of the cloth dye tubs, but only available to the special few who had GM friends, relatives or were GMs themselves? Oh this should be listed with EA employees playing favorites shouldn't it?

    5. A large tower on Fel Ice Island named KFC and Koolaid Inside Colored Welcome which still stands although it has been reported months ago as being offensive (racial stereotyping). Hey EA/MYTHIC please put a warning on UO's website and any future boxed items and adverts that those of a certain nonCaucasian race are not welcome in UO. Unless they enjoy being the butt of certain tired old racist jokes?

    6. No time for a fullfledged check into scriptingville, but I see some scripters houses that still stand and are in no visible stage of decay, so same old same old apparently.


    7. Few players.



    I am ashamed now that I even mentioned the name of UO to anyone in Wow, how embarrassing to have to explain to them why all of the above is allowed to continued and why they should waste time trying to play a game with so many flaws.

    And still no one in WoW that I spoke to had ever heard of UO.

    The difference is now I think that is a good thing.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    lol and after all that, you still gave EA your money......great job!! way to let them know they are doing a horrible job by paying them....look, im not calling you a tool, but you sure do sound like one
     
  3. Paris_Hilton

    Paris_Hilton Guest

    "So I felt like I had to reactivate my main account yesterday so my keep wouldn't fall down (was at about 88 days unpaid..."


    I'm sorry did you miss my first sentence?


    I no longer feel that I "have to reactivate my main account" so my keep won't fall however.
     
  4. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Cant confirm that.
    While playing LotRO i met tons of bards playing Ultimas music on their lutes^^
    And i met tons of people in WOW which heard about Ultima.
    Its true, many people wouldnt touch UO because bugs and old graphics. But why on earth should i care about them? That kind of people wouldnt have touched a game in the 80's. They are casual gamers which think they are hardcore:p

    Its stupid to compare WOW with UO.
    WOW makes you think you are cool because you can hit 8 buttons and read a gaming magazine to solve a simple dungeon.

    UO is hard and within VR tradition of elder games. You make a mistake and your arse gets kicked. Not like games today, which are balanced to death and easy enough so a 9 year old could win while on cannabis.

    Cheating sux, but why should i care?
    Even if a game has 10 million subscribers, you usualy dont talk to more then 15 guys per session plus your guild members.
    I simply dont care about cheaters and scripters. Its a f.... game and not RL.

    By the way, today i lost darkened sky and heart of lion. I could bite my arse but i know theres a chance to find better stuff for less money. And thats why UO is playable even after 13 months. In WOW you play until lvl 70 and thats it.
    High end stuff is soulbound. You reach lvl 70, get your armor set and then?
    Booooring...
     
  5. Guest

    Guest Guest

    RTLFC

    Unless I know the vendor house as reputable, if I see more then 2 or 3 of a limited commodity item, I figure something is not kosher and I won't buy there.

    That also forces me to bypass hard-working players who have simply amassed a lot over time and need to dump it. Oh well.

    Paris? If UO is so distasteful to you why in the world didn't you just walk away and let the keep drop? Seriously ... I did that once because of AoS ... gave away a fully furnished Fel villa on Fire Island and walked off. Do it.
     
  6. randommatter

    randommatter Guest

    <blockquote><hr>


    Can you imagine, being a new player in UO, and working and working filling bod after bod and finallyl getting a runic sewing kit, hitting that combination jsut right.
    Feelin proud, like ya did something....then you walk by one of the Luna vendors that is absolutely LOADED with em, and you think, " I will never be able to compete with this!" Kind of a let down, don'tcha think? And ya say scriptin don't hurt ya? bleh

    &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Well it doesn't affect your game. If you are trying to compete, then do it like the guys you are talking about. Catch a clue, I have a vendor that has a ton of barbed kits on it right now. You say "Duper" but I was the one that bought the xfer tokens, and xferred to 3 different shards to buy 200 barbed kits over a 3 week period, and you know what, I make 500k per so I'm going to end up with 100m less 6 xfer tokens (40m profit). I spent time, money, and resources doing it and had nothing to do with duping. Perhaps if you took your head out of your ass and stopped whining you'd learn a little about how the game is played.

    Collecting, winning, or looting, a good item, an arty, or buying a rare robe, and then finding the vendor next door to the runic kit vendor, has dozens of em on it for sale. Kinda ruins the sense of pride in that too! But duping doesn't affect my gameplay! riiiiight,

    &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Wow same deal here. You are one of those stupid trammies that can't admit they suck at the game. If you want to play merchant then look into it. Spend a little money, buy some Xfers from EA, and start learning how to trade. You are right, you can't compete by sitting their with your thumb up your ass.


    People say, it isnt about the items, it shouldnt be about the items...well it is nowdays! Community seriously doesnt exist today, not like it used to. There is very very little added to this game, in terms of community building. There is an inordinate amount of stuff added in terms of Items! So don't blame peeps for bein item hoes, instead of community leaders...it's the direction EA/Mythic wants us to go, and we are being shepherded down that path constantly.

    I hope they do run live events, I hope they do something (serious) about scripting and duping. I personally hope they throw away all the repair deeds and make us all go back to the forge and tailor shops, where the tailor and smiths (player chars) will have an opportunity to interact with us again, rp with us again, and be useful again.
    /rant

    &gt;&gt;&gt; About time... your a dumb ass.


    [/ QUOTE ]
     
  7. randommatter

    randommatter Guest

    <blockquote><hr>

    RTLFC

    Unless I know the vendor house as reputable, if I see more then 2 or 3 of a limited commodity item, I figure something is not kosher and I won't buy there.

    That also forces me to bypass hard-working players who have simply amassed a lot over time and need to dump it. Oh well.

    Paris? If UO is so distasteful to you why in the world didn't you just walk away and let the keep drop? Seriously ... I did that once because of AoS ... gave away a fully furnished Fel villa on Fire Island and walked off. Do it.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    That is about the most ignorant thing I've ever heard of. Seriously you should just quit playing. UO is a US based game, so I'm going to assume you are in the United States. Here we have this thing we have faught and bled for... it's called Innocent until Proven Guilty. You just think everyone is a crook, nice job. This is so stereotypical of EA/EA Affiliates... again the MODS post in the rant channel. You are a MODERATOR please refrain from giving us your opinion it is slanted and not welcome. Your job is to tweak and pluck from the threads (Unless of course it is the rant section, in which case you really just don't belong here unless someone is saying something racial or pornographic).
     
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    That is about the most ignorant thing I've ever heard of. Seriously you should just quit playing. UO is a US based game, so I'm going to assume you are in the United States. Here we have this thing we have faught and bled for... it's called Innocent until Proven Guilty. You just think everyone is a crook, nice job.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    he's just saying he doesnt buy from vendors that he thinks might be cheating. i dont see why that offends you.
     
  9. Guest

    Guest Guest

    See the shield? In here it is sort of gray with an "S". Right? That means that I am posting AS A PLAYER WITH OPINIONS. Any time I post, it is always as a PAYING EA CUSTOMER - regardless of shield or not.

    And I'll be dipped if I'll precede every dadgum post with a borking disclaimer to please people.

    Also, BamBam has correctly identified the spirit in which it is intended. So, go back and reread what I wrote and reconsider your sins!

    Toodles!
     
  10. Guest

    Guest Guest

    <blockquote><hr>

    See the shield? In here it is sort of gray with an "S". Right? That means that I am posting AS A PLAYER WITH OPINIONS. Any time I post, it is always as a PAYING EA CUSTOMER - regardless of shield or not.

    And I'll be dipped if I'll precede every dadgum post with a borking disclaimer to please people.

    Also, BamBam has correctly identified the spirit in which it is intended. So, go back and reread what I wrote and reconsider your sins!

    Toodles!

    [/ QUOTE ]Don't mind Mr. Matter...
    He seems a little confused about... Everything, in fact...

    *Secret mod handshake*
     
  11. randommatter

    randommatter Guest

    <blockquote><hr>

    See the shield? In here it is sort of gray with an "S". Right? That means that I am posting AS A PLAYER WITH OPINIONS. Any time I post, it is always as a PAYING EA CUSTOMER - regardless of shield or not.

    And I'll be dipped if I'll precede every dadgum post with a borking disclaimer to please people.

    Also, BamBam has correctly identified the spirit in which it is intended. So, go back and reread what I wrote and reconsider your sins!

    Toodles!

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Whatever I didn't bother reading your response because as I said before your opinion (EA AFFILIATE means nothing.) Furthermore it is an extreme abuse of your power to offer it, you are a moderator, affiliated with EA. This is a rant channel, and as such it is a conflict of interest for you to offer your opinion or your ramble. When you took the job as Moderator you should have understood that, any professional site would have rules prohibiting you from engaging it's denizens in this way. Please step aside and allow your USERS to conduct their ranting banter without you.

    This is a rant thread, unlike the other threads where your "Opinion" (a.k.a. EA Spin) is either necessary or warrented this thread is designed for people that don't like what EA is doing. What that means is anyone affiliated with EA should not be posting their opinion "Under the guise of USER/PLAYER/WHATHAVEYOU" because it is INFLAMATORY and makes us ANGRY. This is not how a good website encourages people to come to it. They don't want their staff pissing off their users. So unless you want me to start complaining officially you will back off. I've only asked nice now..3 or 4 times.
     
  12. Guest

    Guest Guest

    1. EA has specifically stated Stratics is NOT an official board, but only a business partnership.

    2. If you aren't reading my stuff why did you respond in the first place?

    3. I've been on these boards since 1999 and figure I do have some right to express an opinion.

    4. I have not violated any Mod-related strictures ... yet.

    Toodles! And thank you Kiminality.
     
  13. randommatter

    randommatter Guest

    <blockquote><hr>

    1. EA has specifically stated Stratics is NOT an official board, but only a business partnership.

    2. If you aren't reading my stuff why did you respond in the first place?

    3. I've been on these boards since 1999 and figure I do have some right to express an opinion.

    4. I have not violated any Mod-related strictures ... yet.

    Toodles! And thank you Kiminality.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    I don't care how long you have been here, no one in the rant channel wants to talk or hear from an EA affiliate.

    Just to be clear, The dictionary defines the word Affiliate as:
    To become closely connected or associated
    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/affiliate


    It also defines Business Partner as:
    to join with; to connect to; to become attached to
    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/partner

    I never said you were an "Official Board" even though EA staff post here before they update their own website (********, and odd.... if you aren't the official website), I said you were AFFILIATED. As such your opinion as a staff member (posting under the guise of a Player) in the RANT section is A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. You are also pissing me off, I don't want to see your posts in the rant section, I'm a user, there are many like me, we tell you people to go to hell regularly when you post in the rant section. Do you like pissing of your users? Does the guy that run this website know you enjoy pissing off his users?

    Does he know you are issuing implied threats...
    (4. I have not violated any Mod-related strictures ... yet.) Under his name and flag?

    2. If you aren't reading my stuff why did you respond in the first place?
    I responded to let you know that you, a STAFF MEMBER are pissing me off A USER and I believe I TRUMP you. Now go away. Your job is to serve us, not to rant, ramble or piss off users.
     
  14. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Whoa...
    Hold your horses.

    1. "Rant section" still belongs to Stratics and any user, mod, admin, reporter has every right to post here. Or are you going to tell me to go away too?

    2. T'Amon has been nothing but patient and respectful, you on the other hand...

    3. I'm going to be respectful, not so sure about patience.

    4. See the Rules of Conduct thingy on top of the screen? SnR or not, it still applies:

    a. Show respect at all times.


    b. Help build the Community.

    The success of our forums depends upon the quality posts of our participants. We are proud of the success of our forums and give our thanks to those who have chosen to make our forums their out-of-game home. To ensure continued success we are posting these guidelines so that all participants of the Stratics forums understand what is considered unacceptable behavior in the forums and can result in a temporary suspension or a permanent ban.


    c. Personal attacks are prohibited.This specifically means any text/post that is blatantly attacking another person on or off the forum, especially in a personal way.


    d. Trolling is prohibited.Trolling is whenever someone is clearly, deliberately posting in a manner for the purpose of angering and/or insulting the other participants of the board. Trolling DOES NOT encourage further discussion in the long run, it only encourages personal attacks (if left unchecked).
     
  15. Cat Crimson

    Cat Crimson Guest

    <blockquote><hr>

    2. If you aren't reading my stuff why did you respond in the first place?
    I responded to let you know that you, a STAFF MEMBER are pissing me off A USER and I believe I TRUMP you. Now go away. Your job is to serve us, not to rant, ramble or piss off users.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    You know, I just bet you are the kind of person who leaves hotel rooms looking like a pigsty and treats the help like dirt, just because you don't have any power at all in your own little world and you feel it is your God given right to do so. Because you're paying for it, and this somehow makes it ok to stamp and shout and namecall and generally act like an untrained monkey.

    " I TRUMP you ". Pure, mature, well thought out, convincing class. None better.
     
  16. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I still love UO. Can I have yer stuff?
     
  17. randommatter

    randommatter Guest

    <blockquote><hr>

    Whoa...
    Hold your horses.

    1. "Rant section" still belongs to Stratics and any user, mod, admin, reporter has every right to post here. Or are you going to tell me to go away too?

    2. T'Amon has been nothing but patient and respectful, you on the other hand...

    3. I'm going to be respectful, not so sure about patience.

    4. See the Rules of Conduct thingy on top of the screen? SnR or not, it still applies:

    a. Show respect at all times.


    b. Help build the Community.

    The success of our forums depends upon the quality posts of our participants. We are proud of the success of our forums and give our thanks to those who have chosen to make our forums their out-of-game home. To ensure continued success we are posting these guidelines so that all participants of the Stratics forums understand what is considered unacceptable behavior in the forums and can result in a temporary suspension or a permanent ban.


    c. Personal attacks are prohibited.This specifically means any text/post that is blatantly attacking another person on or off the forum, especially in a personal way.


    d. Trolling is prohibited.Trolling is whenever someone is clearly, deliberately posting in a manner for the purpose of angering and/or insulting the other participants of the board. Trolling DOES NOT encourage further discussion in the long run, it only encourages personal attacks (if left unchecked).

    [/ QUOTE ]


    Fine hold your staff to the same rule. I posted (not a troll) my boycott. Your staff decided to make inflamatory and insulting (to me and other users here) remarks about our boycott. This was not respectful. I'm so sick and tired of hearing you boards excuses on its unprofessional behavior.

    I run one of the largest consumer publications in the world. I know a little bit about website, moderators, and the news industry. Stratics is supposed to be about product news (something I'm extremely familiar with). Your people, whether they are working directly for you, or working as moderators are supposed to adhere to standard practices when it comes to representing a bone-fide news agency. This means you are supposed to provide the facts, not your opinion.

    I on the other hand am here in the capacity of user/player/customer. When you designate a section like the Rants section, do not have your people come in here and make inflamatory comments and give opinion that is contrary to the thread. It is ok for users to do so, but not for staff. They were asked NICELY to stop and go away.

    So now you take their side? Good job. You show where this unprofessional behavior is coming from. Here is what I'm going to do, in my professional capacity (industry related) I'm going to contact the real staff at Stratics and I'm going to have a long talk with them. Given the fact that when I write editorial 110 million people globally read my thoughts I'm sure I can get an ear.

    Let's see what type of policy changes we can effect here as well shall we?

    k thanks bye.
     
  18. randommatter

    randommatter Guest

    <blockquote><hr>

    <blockquote><hr>

    2. If you aren't reading my stuff why did you respond in the first place?
    I responded to let you know that you, a STAFF MEMBER are pissing me off A USER and I believe I TRUMP you. Now go away. Your job is to serve us, not to rant, ramble or piss off users.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    You know, I just bet you are the kind of person who leaves hotel rooms looking like a pigsty and treats the help like dirt, just because you don't have any power at all in your own little world and you feel it is your God given right to do so. Because you're paying for it, and this somehow makes it ok to stamp and shout and namecall and generally act like an untrained monkey.

    " I TRUMP you ". Pure, mature, well thought out, convincing class. None better.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    I bet you make beds for a living at a hotel. I don't stay at hotels they are filthy, when I travel I stay at friends, family, or I houses that I own/friends own. I assure you I am extremely considerate.

    I find it amusing that you feel that the customer is not always right. You are a customer, you should get what you pay for. We sit here and look at ads so that these people have jobs, we contribute with our time by posting in threads. Without us they have nothing, and we are supposed to be more important then they are. The reason I went all out like that was to make a dramatic presentation to that effect since they have obviously misplaced this information. (Much like their affiliate EA has.)