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A List Of Ideas I Believe Will Make UO A Better Game.

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Mr Artifact, Feb 20, 2008.

  1. Mr Artifact

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    Heres a list of some of the ideas i can think of but not in order of importance. these ideas i believe would make this game a better game &amp; bring more players both old and new to this game. since i posted many things &amp; i expect alot of mixed reactions to some of my ideas here because its alot maybe too much for just one post sorry if it is. feel free to comment on what you like and what you dont like &amp; if you feel you have a better suggestion to atleast one of my ideas feel free to comment too thanks for reading. [/list] <ul> 1. The monthly subscription cost should never be increased. enough players have quit as it is &amp; as great as this game is it cant hold a candle to its main competitors graphically speaking that is even in KR mode. [/list] <ul> 2. An 8TH character slot should come right out of the box at no extra cost with SA considering i heard there will be no quest anytime soon to become a gargoyle and i already made my 7th characters per account. [/list] <ul> 3. I would like another storage increase at no extra cost right out of the box with SA. [/list] <ul> 4. Since the recent bank increase enables us to hold 150 items in our banks we should be allowed to carry 150 items in our pack, our pack animals, our containers, our ship cargo holds and our Vendors &amp; anything else i left out this should come right out of the box also with SA at no extra cost. [/list] <ul> 5. This game needs to be advertised more on the web,newspapers, magazines &amp; on tv because few people know about this game and we could sure use more players. [/list] <ul> 6. We need a more balanced fighting system i dont pvp but i hear complaints that not every aspect of fighting is balanced enough so a little tweaking can help. [/list] <ul> 7. Allow us to place Keeps &amp; Castles in Tokuna &amp; Malas also i want more land created so more players can have a chance at owning a castle or a keep. [/list] <ul> 8. Allow an extra floor or two per house maybe even dungeon floor or 2 &amp; add more costumizeable options to add more variety to our house if we want. [/list] <ul> 9. Add a Drawf race &amp; Halfling race to the mix of existing and comming up races. all of this games main competitors have them that i know of so it can only help. [/list] <ul> 10. We need more various kinds of ships includeing pirate ships &amp; i would love some with more then one deck &amp; more then one cargo hold also a ships cargo hold should be able to hold more then 400 stones if a pack horse can hold over 1600 stones why not a ships cargo hold. [/list] <ul> 11. Add more tamable &amp; non tamable creatures to the land, dungeons and oceons or where ever both real &amp; imagined the more creatures the better. [/list] <ul> 12. Bring back atleast some if not all of the extinct creatures listed on UO Stratics &amp; start adding all of the undiscovered creatures listed on UO Stratics to this game too. [/list] <ul> 13. Add a map book that acts just like a bod book so we can hold more maps and save some storage. [/list] <ul> 14. Add more stackables both old and new &amp; fix the items that are supposed to stack that arent stacking now. [/list] <ul> 15. Add more dungeons &amp; more new,old, and existing monsters. [/list] <ul> 16. Add more stealable Items both old and new includeing new stealable artifacts. [/list] <ul> 17. Add alot more craftables, materials &amp; resources we can sure use more of them. [/list] <ul> 18. Stop the use of all 3rd party programs that can enable cheats and exploits through patches to make the game imcompatable with them or through some other method. i just want to see cheating eliminated as much as possable. [/list] <ul> 19. Add middle age type of casino or two where we can play against other players &amp; against npc for gold &amp; Prizes so we can have added fun and variety in this game. [/list] <ul> 20. GMS when paged should atleast show up most of the time &amp; not send us a message back. Back when i first started playing if you paged a GM they would come just about every time now a days thats a rare thing so GMS should be more attentive after all we are paying to play so they could atleast give us a little more respect and common curtousy no offense intended but we deserve that much atleast.
     
  2. GarthGrey

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    Would you like fries with that? Seriously, if you want something changed, pick one thing, and then argue the merits. Making a ridiculous list like that will simply get ignored. Well, I replied, so, uhh, you know what I meant....
     
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    I got to #3 and stopped due to the "gimme gimme" nature of #s 2 and 3
     
  4. Mr Artifact

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    i posted this on the ideas den awhile back so i decided to import this here this will be my last post with numerous ideas just figure id get this sent here and see what happens. i dont post list anymore.
     
  5. GarthGrey

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    So your ideas are...add more of these, add more of those ? (what's that Beer commercial with the Monty Python types)...Brilliant!!!!!
     
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    It's ok to post lists, but you need a bit more substance to the reasoning behind an idea than "because I want it".

    Basically look at each idea and consider the effect it will have on the game as a whole and not simply the effect it may have for you.

    Also consider something I read from a dev that has stuck with me for every idea I consider and that's a simple question with PROFOUND significance:

    "How can this idea be abused?"
     
  7. Guest

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    1. The monthly subscription cost should never be increased.
    20. GMS when paged should atleast show up most of the time &amp; not send us a message back.


    I find it interesting that you bookended your list with these two. There is this nagging little thing called inflation (well, admittedly high tech infrastructure and a maturing business might not follow inflation, so perhaps demanding more for less isn't completely impossible, but it is risky - $10 is a lot less now than it was ten years ago). There is also the problem that EA is a business. If they can get people to start playing a $20/month game, why would they want to pitch a $10/month game? (well ok, the answer is that many of us open multiple accounts eventually so its not really a $10/month game ... um, I'm just rambling at this point)

    2. An 8TH character slot should come right out of the box at no extra cost with SA
    3. I would like another storage increase at no extra cost right out of the box with SA.

    The bonus we got (er ... bought) appears to be what was originally intended to come with SA. I would actually lean towards suggesting that accounts get a small 5-10% storage bump each year as a vet reward to reflect the preservation of relics of earlier eras of the game.

    4. Since the recent bank increase enables us to hold 150 items (...)
    11. Add more tamable &amp; non tamable creatures (...)
    13. Add a map book that acts just like a bod book(...)
    19. Add middle age type of casino or two (...)

    hmm ... you want these, but I'm not sure this makes UO a better game.

    5. This game needs to be advertised more

    Before a big advertising push, UO needs to define a new niche, find a need out there and a pitch about the experience it is going to offer.

    6. We need a more balanced fighting system i dont pvp but i hear complaints that not every aspect of fighting is balanced enough so a little tweaking can help.
    Since UO isn't a class-based game, I tend to look at the Magic:the Gathering design model here: perfect balance is impossible, just make sure there is a rich enough mesh of tradeoffs and counter-tactics and let the players find their own balance.

    7. Allow us to place Keeps &amp; Castles in Tokuna &amp; Malas (...)
    8. Allow an extra floor or two per house maybe even dungeon floor or 2
    10. We need more various kinds of ships (...)
    (...)

    More elaborate estates will get no complaints from me ... well, except when I try to run past them [​IMG]

    9. Add a Drawf race &amp; Halfling race to the mix of existing and comming up races.
    eep! um ... er ...

    12. Bring back atleast some if not all of the extinct creatures
    What about making an existing creatures go extinct each year?

    14. Add more stackables both old and new &amp; fix the items that are supposed to stack that arent stacking now.
    There was a pretty good pass at cleaning this up last year.

    15-17. Add more (...)
    *crosses fingers that SA gets to see the light of day*

    18. i just want to see cheating eliminated as much as possable.
    Aye, that would be the trick.
     
  8. 1. Agreed, no increase. Actually, how about a decrease or giving us the customer support the initial raise in price was to be used for?

    2. How many characters do you possibly need? 7 Should be more than enough. We already have problems with people having one of every type of character in game which greatly devalues crafters. How about just giving everyone else the 7th slot that people were foolish enough to pay for outright?

    3. Get rid of some stuff or make new ways to consolidate. Bod books shouldn't take more than one space despite the amount of Bods in them. We need jewelry chests for the mounds of jewelry we have collected over years, even if it only holds 25 rings. We need map books for treasure maps, something to store SOS's in... so much could be done to consolidate data.

    4. No, No, and NO. So the bank was increased. That doesn't mean you should be able to hold an unGodly amount of items. Maybe they should put the weight limit back on banks for a day just to prove a point. :p

    5. Fix the game first, then worry about getting new players.

    6. We've been saying this for years.

    7. No, no new land. We have too much land as it is. Castles and keeps were suppose to be rare, not owned by everyone.

    8. They talked about basements at one point. Nothing ever came of it. It would be a nice addition.

    9. Or races that are more UO oriented, such as Meer, Juka, etc. instead of traditional races that every MMO has.

    10. A whole oceanic revamp needs to be done. There was a great idea in the ideas den that was well thought out.

    11. Such as...?

    12. Ok.

    13. See #3

    14. Such as...? Most items that could be stackable now are. Others have properties which prevent stacking.

    15. Dungeons that we have need a bit of a revamp. I'm all for the abyss dungeon, but we need to work on what we already have.

    16. No more artifacts. We need more craftables. Everything in game should be craftable from tables to book cases, etc.

    18. Easier said than done on the 3PPs. How about people that script mine, unattended macro, speedhack... things that could be prevented but aren't. Take care of the obvious ones which kill the economy first.

    19. Atlantic had a casino.

    20. BRING BACK COUNSELORS!
     
  9. Guest

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    I can only agree with #5 and #18 in your list. Alot in your list would make the game worse and add even more items to the game.

    I would say we need to clean up the game and get rid of alot of the item madness we have.
    I would also love to see keeps and castles removed from the game, only very large guilds should be able to have a castle as guildhouse. I think personly houses should be limit to max 14x14.

    Yes crafting need help but not in form of new craftables and more resources. It need to become more simple again, so you can play without a calculator and without killing upper monsters to get needed resources.
     
  10. Sky-byte

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    How 'bout a verite colored cu? I know, it won't make the game any better but I've seen cu's in all ore types except that one.

    Plus I wonder why Juka and Meer weren't considered as playable races (that would be so cool)
     
  11. DVDA

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    Sounds like your running for president
     
  12. Dean478

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    1. The monthly subscription cost should never be increased. enough players have quit as it is &amp; as great as this game is it cant hold a candle to its main competitors graphically speaking that is even in KR mode. [/list] <blockquote><hr>



    Agreed. I was shocked when I came back to this game 3 years after WoW's release to find it was trying to match prices. Must be joking... nope they're serious. They honestly think that all these years later they are remaining competitive. I'd say barely. Kingdom Reborn is the only reason I came back. But I sure didn't miss Samurai Empire, AOS item changes or Renaissance and especially the elves of Mondain's Legacy

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    <ul> 2. An 8TH character slot should come right out of the box at no extra cost with SA considering i heard there will be no quest anytime soon to become a gargoyle and i already made my 7th characters per account. [/list]

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    How many charactesr do people possibly have? A free slot would be nice for gargoyle race though.

    <ul> 3. I would like another storage increase at no extra cost right out of the box with SA. [/list]

    An issue that stems from something else. This game is so item focused now it's just silly. Artifacts, "rare" items, bugged items, stupid item whoring, it's rediculous.

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    <ul> 4. Since the recent bank increase enables us to hold 150 items in our banks we should be allowed to carry 150 items in our pack, our pack animals, our containers, our ship cargo holds and our Vendors &amp; anything else i left out this should come right out of the box also with SA at no extra cost. [/list]

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    NO! This is a virtual world that Richard Garriot and his team tried to create! A SIMULATED WORLD. Things have weight. You can't just magically carry all these items people love to keep for no practical purpose.

    NEVER stray from the original design concepts. That's what sequals are for.

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    <ul> 5. This game needs to be advertised more on the web,newspapers, magazines &amp; on tv because few people know about this game and we could sure use more players. [/list]

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    No doubt about it. They also need to think long and hard about a sequal. Ultima Online 2 was already on the way. Richard Garriot would definitely make it if they passed on the rest of the rights to him.

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    <ul> 6. We need a more balanced fighting system i dont pvp but i hear complaints that not every aspect of fighting is balanced enough so a little tweaking can help. [/list]

    [/ QUOTE ]


    That's going to be extremely hard to fix. Can thank Age of Shadows for that.

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    <ul> 7. Allow us to place Keeps &amp; Castles in Tokuna &amp; Malas also i want more land created so more players can have a chance at owning a castle or a keep. [/list]

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    In addition to this. Allow us to own the houses that are inside cities already. Give some life to the cities.

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    <ul> 8. Allow an extra floor or two per house maybe even dungeon floor or 2 &amp; add more costumizeable options to add more variety to our house if we want. [/list]

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    Dungeon floor would be cool. Add for some interesting events too. The crypts beneath Davin's house, the orcs that have forced Davin to hole up inside his basement!

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    <ul> 9. Add a Drawf race &amp; Halfling race to the mix of existing and comming up races. all of this games main competitors have them that i know of so it can only help. [/list]

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    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

    This is ULTIMA. Ultima abandoned these classical fantasy elements a LONG TIME AGO. 20 YEARS AGO! This is Ultima! Elves and ninjas were a stupid mistake, don't repeat it!

    There is no logcal reason to add another race. Gargoyles fit the lore. Elves are an extremely bad twist on the lore and from a metagame point of view, unfounded.

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    <ul> 10. We need more various kinds of ships includeing pirate ships &amp; i would love some with more then one deck &amp; more then one cargo hold also a ships cargo hold should be able to hold more then 400 stones if a pack horse can hold over 1600 stones why not a ships cargo hold. [/list]

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    Agree on more boats, but what's with teh focus on all the items and storage? Are you playing the game or collecting the materials in it?

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    <ul> 11. Add more tamable &amp; non tamable creatures to the land, dungeons and oceons or where ever both real &amp; imagined the more creatures the better. [/list]

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    Maybe, as long as they make sense and fit the lore.

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    <ul> 12. Bring back atleast some if not all of the extinct creatures listed on UO Stratics &amp; start adding all of the undiscovered creatures listed on UO Stratics to this game too. [/list]

    [/ QUOTE ]

    As long as it fits the lore and game reasoning.

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    <ul> 13. Add a map book that acts just like a bod book so we can hold more maps and save some storage. [/list]

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Not really needed, dunno about that.

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    <ul> 14. Add more stackables both old and new &amp; fix the items that are supposed to stack that arent stacking now. [/list]

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Like?

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    <ul> 15. Add more dungeons &amp; more new,old, and existing monsters. [/list]


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    Especially things from previous lore or that would fit the essence of Ultima.

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    <ul> 16. Add more stealable Items both old and new includeing new stealable artifacts. [/list]

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    Sure.

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    <ul> 17. Add alot more craftables, materials &amp; resources we can sure use more of them. [/list]

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    Better yet, undo the stupid item properties of AoS and make crafting worthy once more.

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    <ul> 18. Stop the use of all 3rd party programs that can enable cheats and exploits through patches to make the game imcompatable with them or through some other method. i just want to see cheating eliminated as much as possable. [/list]

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    Agreed, if it should be needed, it should be in the game. NEVER support 3rd party stuff that gives an advantage.

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    <ul> 19. Add middle age type of casino or two where we can play against other players &amp; against npc for gold &amp; Prizes so we can have added fun and variety in this game. [/list]

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Just like in Bucc's Den of Ultima 7. Some of this can be accomplished now if players hang out in Bucc's Den and provide a casino for players.

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    <ul> 20. GMS when paged should atleast show up most of the time &amp; not send us a message back. Back when i first started playing if you paged a GM they would come just about every time now a days thats a rare thing so GMS should be more attentive after all we are paying to play so they could atleast give us a little more respect and common curtousy no offense intended but we deserve that much atleast.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Yep GM service is lacking big time. NEVER respond only with an automated message. Actually READ and respond personally.
     
  13. How about:

    Fix the lag problems
    stop the cheating and exploits
    forget KR or at least make it bearable to look at and comprable to 2d+UOAM+UOA
    stop the speed hacking
    Fix the stuff that has been broken for years
     
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    14. Add more stackables both old and new &amp; fix the items that are supposed to stack that arent stacking now.
    15. Add more dungeons &amp; more new,old, and existing monsters.
    16. Add more stealable Items both old and new includeing new stealable artifacts.


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    No new lands , add to what we have now..