Today I have finally really wondered why I bother with factions or UO for that matter. Faction play has been my focus for over a year and I have tried to encourage people to join, help people along and play the game with complete integrity. I have suffered the same bouts of whining about cheats that many have, ranted and wondered why they can't be controlled. What happened last night and today are beyond cheating. It is basic human respect and specifically lack of respect for women. Last night I was running and dying and giving my killers the usual.... "it took four of you with cross fields to kill a lil granny thief" ... and recording the most recent cheating episode. Yes, I run camstudio often in hopes someday something can be done. I eventually got "into it" with a player, one on one "discussion" that quickly digressed to the other playing telling granny many many things including something about eating a portion of his anatomy. So be it, I paged on him. I also icqd someone who is a friend and was co-incharge of the defense that night to explain my intentions to page and express my sorrow that there were such players in their guild. We are friends ... we talk about things ... Long story short, she made a decision which is hers to express and explain. This morning, while faction playing I again ran into the same player with 3 other members of the guild/faction in brit. I died and went to the healer where one young man said, Tinkz rez, so I can talk to you... well, I am not stupid I knew I was gonna die ..... 8 deaths later and horrific verbal abuse later they finally tired of the verbal and sexual harassment and left. I have a screen shot for anyone that would like to see it ... please ICQ me and I will send you a link. Beyond that a very young player who trusted in the guild and faction friends he knew, was attacked and killed on a blue by one of those very friends... my only guess is because of the actions his mother chose. Retribution against an 8 year old. That is sad beyond words and I worry for the attacker as a human being but more I worry for those that stand aside and allow that sort of abuse of any other human being. If you want to see the picture... icq me 76943888. And you will notice, I have mentioned no names, no guilds, no factions... not even the shard. The picture has no names but my own. This is an expression of my concern and sadness over how people allow others to behave just to win at a game.