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about castles.......

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Poo, Apr 13, 2009.

  1. Poo

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    so, why cant we put stuff in the grassy area in the inner bailey?

    a outdoor fordge would be nice.

    have my kitchen out there would be neat.

    being able to put my trees out there might be cool.

    seems like a big waste of space that could be used for some better deco and layouts.

    just a random thought that jumped into me melon.

    carry on with your normal postings.
     
  2. It Lives

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    That would be fine for existing castle, however it would completely ruin how castle's are placed.

    Not being able to squeeze that lone tree or trees in the court yards would Screw anyone wanting to place a castle out of placing.

    Its Hard enough all ready to place a castle, restricting them further so you can have a BBQ is out of the question.
     
  3. MoneyMaker

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    The days of the castle are soon to be gone.....*sighs*
    everyone wants a customizable 18x18 nowadays.......*sighs again*

    the castle does need a make over, such as being able to lockdown in the bailey, but it also needs a more functional layout.
    just my opinion, not wanting to step on toes or irk anyone........
     
  4. Wraith One

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    I'm not sure why they don't allow the courtyards to work. They don't just restrict you from locking anything down in that area, they also prevent you from recalling into that area with a marked rune. You can't log your char out in that area. The whole inner courtyard isn't actually apart of the house apparently. Even though when you look at it from a stranger's perspective, that land cannot be accessed unless the owner of the castle allows you access to it. I seriously doubt the whole tree thing inside and the ability to place a castle has anything to do with the ability to use that inner area. When a castle is private any mob or monster that spawns inside that area moves even a single square is kicked to the front. That means that the inner courtyard is registered as being under the castle owner's restrictions. Alternatively, when a player that does not have access is in that same area and the castle is made private, if he moves same thing happens. I do think that the courtyard needs to be looked at for player use. I get tired of looking at my grass one looking so bare.
    Now, as for placing castles... thats a whole new story. It's not difficult to place them. There are so many spots throughout trammel and felucca that hold them. I could think of at least 30 in trammel alone off the top of my head. The problem with that is there's usually another player's house in the way. I've actually had the pleasure of placing more than 8 myself (not on TC). It's just a matter of what shard you play and how well you pay attention to open land.
     
  5. good idea
    we need to allow castles in malas and tokneo on origin as well we need something to attract people !!!!
     
  6. MalagAste

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    This has be discussed many times...... there are pro's and con's...


    First off..... like It Lives said it would keep folk from placing over a tree.... which would make it more difficult to place a castle....

    Secondly allowing folk to custom a castle would be BAD..... I would puke if I had to see a castle in crystal.... *shudders*.....

    I do think that some better designs could be had though.... WAY more functional... as it stands most of the castle is well.... Useless.....

    As for the inner bailey.... I agree...... I want to be able to lock stuff down.... as well I can't detect hidden there... so if someone did manage to get into there.... you can't get them out... you can't reveal them with detect.... you can't ban them..... you can't really do anything to them... unless your in fel... VERY annoying... ..... there is no way to "secure" the inner part of the castle... unless you secure the whole castle which to me is wrong..... unless of course you live in fel...

    What I've said before and I'll say again there ought to be a contest to redesign the keep and Castle (and I think this should be done on a Test shard NOT with that UO thing cause there is NO way most of the people who are good at deco and design can use most that.... but a test shard with nothing but green space where you start with a house building tool so you can go there and place a plot either for keep or Castle and redesign a Keep or Castle... using "limited" tiles.... and keeping it the same size and dimensions... Even if we had to keep the bailey and the foot prints exactly.... I think it would help if we could redesign them to be more functional and practical... And I would like to see Castle and Keep users be able to "switch" between 3 or 4 basic designs..... Though I think I would prefer if we were allowed to totally use the entire space of both the keep and Castle.... since you can't do anything else with that area...

    I could rant on this all night long but... *sighs*
     
  7. Deaol

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    Id take a castle over a 18x18 any day... still waiting... but I see that being another issue with castles, alot of people can't afford them, let alone place them, and for a newer or returning player a 18x18 is more feasible.
     
  8. FrejaSP

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    I sure would love to lockdown in the courtyard.

    An other thing I would love is to be able to place teleporters, I'm tired of open 3 doors to get in and I'm tired of running all the way to corner towers first floor.

    Also I would love to be able to place extra door set and set secures on them.

    I need 8 door set on first floor and 12 doorset on second floor.
    In my keep I only need 10 door set on second floor and one set on first floor.

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  9. JC the Builder

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    I think there are plenty of players who would still want a castle's 6,800 storage over an 18x18.
     
  10. Pfloyd

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    Raises hand. Yup. The storage alone is enough to keep it for me but we can still complain in hopes it would be changed.

    There are some enjoyable decorating tricks still that can make them fun.
     
  11. Cogniac

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    Because I do not have a castle. And you do. Which means that you have something that I do not. Which means that according to the UHall bylaws, I must now throw a giant hissy fit and declare that not only should you not be allowed to customize your castle in any way whatsoever, all castles should be removed from the game and you personally should be banned.