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Additional Items I'm Curious About Regarding the Bannings (stuff not yet on UO.com)

Discussion in 'UHall' started by GalenKnighthawke, Aug 4, 2008.

  1. GalenKnighthawke

    GalenKnighthawke Grand Poobah
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    Hello.

    Hopefully this thread won't get locked or removed. I know there are a lot of threads on the bannings, but I made a new thread because I didn't see a thread specifically asking for this kind of additional information. Hopefully the mods will agree that this thread is different enough from the others to justify its existence.

    1. Approximately how many accounts and/or players were involved, and approximately how much/what kind of stuff was removed?
    (Not all mass bannings have conveyed this kind of information, but some have. The first mass banning I remember, for example, removed a few dozen accounts, and removed 80% of the gold from the game...Duping back then was that much of an issue. I'd be surprised if it was on that kind of scale now-a-days.)

    2. Was anyone banned solely (or even mostly I suppose) on the basis of having, for want of a better way to put it, a lot of stuff and/or a lot of a particular item (for example, runic hammers).
    (I ask this because non-casual players are concerned, as we don't necessarily know how much of a certain item can cause us to be on a radar screen. I know you can't say something like, "anything over XX amount is suspicious." But it'd be lovely if you could say "none of these bannings were solely on the basis of having a lot of stuff." And if you can't say that, then this is something we should know, I would argue.)

    3. Can you give us a rough idea of what kind of investigations you did to determine who to ban?
    (I actually would think you couldn't, as it'd be too easy to tip your hand, but I thought I'd ask anyway. Maybe there's some technique you ain't ever gonna use again you could tell us about.)

    I appreciate the replies you've made today, and the announcement, and hopefully answering these won't cause you all to tip your hand.

    I'm actually leaning (strongly) towards Mythic's side of the table at this point, for whatever that's worth. (Not much I know, as my voice is but a tiny one.) No I'm not going to change my mind solely on the basis of your not answering or my not liking your answers. *chuckles*

    :)

    -Galen's player
     
  2. Lady_Mina

    Lady_Mina Guest

    In before the lock !

    LOL

    Well i can give you an answer to that question :

    "We're not allowed to talk about that"
     
  3. GalenKnighthawke

    GalenKnighthawke Grand Poobah
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    I'd be ok with that.

    -Galen's player
     
  4. Lady_Mina

    Lady_Mina Guest

    Lol

    O'rly?


    No i'm actualy curious aswell to hear the answer on those questions..
     
  5. gjohnson5

    gjohnson5 Guest

    Has a fix for the cheats been scheduled
    There's alot of talk about the owners of illegal items but what about fixing the game?
     
  6. GalenKnighthawke

    GalenKnighthawke Grand Poobah
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    That, she has actually answered.

    http://vboards.stratics.com/showthread.php?p=780337#post780337

    "the dupe is fixed. Has been for a while now."

    Of course there are always new dupes....But what I think happened was this.

    There was a dupe.

    Stuff was duped. A lot of it.

    They fixed the dupe.

    People sat on their duped crap. Sat for maybe awhile.

    Then they started trickling it out. Cross-sharding stuff. Nothing was done. Holy crap we're home free, better open the floodgates!!

    Then the floodgates opened!!

    And then this weekend happened.

    It's like the US government with drugs. They know they can't stop it entirely without doing really bad, expensive things, but they like to keep it under a certain threshold. It goes over that threshold, they slam down. Hypothetically, if drug kingpins could keep it under a certain level, that slamdown would never occur. There'd be arrests and violence and crap, but no big slamdowns.

    But it's in the nature of drug dealers to get so greedy that they necessitate a slamdown. All you can really hope is that said slamdown doesn't catch many innocents in the inevitable crossfire.

    I know a slamdown was coming sooner or later when I saw more than 2 Shrouds of Tal'Keesh on the same screen. When I saw threads about 30 valorite runic hammers on the same vendor, I knew it even more.

    -Galen's player
     
  7. gjohnson5

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    I thought "this weekend" was dude on the forums that publically posted a functional duping procedure