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Adgangskode - Possible Solution?? **3rd Book dropped 10/25**

Discussion in 'UO Atlantic' started by Kylie Kinslayer, Oct 22, 2010.

  1. Kylie Kinslayer

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    Heard it mentioned during the second event that Adgangskode is Danish for password. Googled it and that seems correct.

    While looking at the two books that have dropped I noticed something. Have been trying to figure it out for a hour or two now but am unsure if I have solved it. Figured I would open it up to everyone that's interested though:

    1st Book -

    F N N N N P N P M M N M F P M M {16 Letters}


    2nd Book-

    Ort Wis Wis Wis Wis Hur Wis Hur Mani Mani Wis Mani Ort Hur Mani Mani {16 Power Words}


    F = Ort
    N= Wis
    P= Hur
    M= Mani



    Power word meanings:
    Ort = Magic
    Wis = Know or Knowledge
    Hur = Wind
    Mani = Life or Healing


    Magic Knowledge Wind {of} Healing... That led me to the magic knowledge of the power words for a healing spell. The only one I could come up with is Cleansing Winds... power words:

    In Vas Mani Hur


    Could this be the password? Or does anyone esle have a better line of thinking?


    *edit*
    changed title to include possible solution

    *2nd edit*
    Changed title to include 3rd book dropping
     
  2. OchoHoltO

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    Duane has a lot of good stuff

    Much of his deals with the names of characters in the storyline

    I don't remember everything right off hand but I know it dealt with death and rebirth(phoenix rising from its own ashes).

    Bellatrix Adhara's name comes from 2 stars or groups of stars, if I'm on the right path.

    Loosely thrown together I get Virgin Warrior Dog..maybe a white cu?

    As far as it's significance, I have no clue, plus I could be completely wrong.

    Nice work on what you got though!

    Oh and Ghost also went a step further with the adgangskode thing and found out it actually means

    word or string of words only known by the user
     
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    Re: Adgangskode - Possible Solution??

    I really do wish I'd known about this because I would have joined in sooner... You don't hear much from the criers out on the water :)

    Ghost was kind enough to give me copies of the books that were found so far, so I'll have to look at them a little harder and see if I can come up with anything :).

    But from the few minutes I was looking at them earlier, my train of thought was going in the same direction as Kylie.
     
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    Re: Adgangskode - Possible Solution??

    Bellatrix (Female Warrior) from the constellation Orion (Hunter)

    Adhara (Virgins) from the constellation Canis Major (Larger Dog)


    Anywho... I'm still following Kylie's train of thought, but the the pilot of the Gemedet isn't being very helpful :p
     
  5. Kylie Kinslayer

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    Re: Adgangskode - Possible Solution??

    Ok, I can follow that now. I have to admit I was LOST for a while trying to figure out about dogs and stuff. Thanks for throwing light on that.
     
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    Re: Adgangskode - Possible Solution??

    This would seem to fit in with words for a spell. Maybe the words alone are not the password though, maybe it has to be cast on something. Maybe someone holding the heart from the Golden Hart while casting the spell on this Bennu fellow to revive him from his condition. Just throwing my warped logic out there......

    *edit*

    I think that would also go along with the Phoenix line. Him being close to death (if not dead by now) and having a rebirth upon us completing this task.
     
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    Re: Adgangskode - Possible Solution??

    Was there anything else that could possibly be of use besides the books themselves? Like where Bellatrix was seen... or something...?

    And could there also be a meaning to the text in the one book? Besides the capital letters...


    Edit: Another thought... Was there anything said at all that could be a clue? I missed these events, so I'm just making sure I know as much as possible :)
     
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    She was at the third level of a dungeon which name escapes me.. But underneath a throne that was there, and behind a painting was "3-4-1-5", which I'm not sure is from this event or a past one.
     
  9. OchoHoltO

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    yea that:thumbup1:
    I was going off memory, and mine isn't that great
     
  10. OchoHoltO

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    I believe Bennu said one was for Ultima scholars and one was for normal players

    and I asked if you need to know the lore to understand after the first book was given out and he said "no, just the context"
     
  11. Kylie Kinslayer

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    Re: Adgangskode - Possible Solution??

    Yes, he said book 1 was for scholars or older players and book 2 was for newer ones. I don't know if in older versions the keys on the keyboard meant something special or not. I have only been playing Ultima 75 months now :)

    Just in case someone that does not have access to the books:

    The first two are book 1 and the last one is book 2
     
  12. Kylie Kinslayer

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    Re: Adgangskode - Possible Solution??

    I am not sure where she was during the event where the first book dropped. When the second book dropped she was spotted leaving Covetous {I assume this is where the first books dropped and the throne would be} and heading south. The second book dropped during the battles at Cove cemetery. There were 4 types of reapers and I can't remember the names of them. Maybe someone else can remember?

    *edit*

    Just checked. The 3 4 1 5 is Couvetous 3rd level. I want to say this was from the Inu the Crone days. But it could have also been from the Candle of Love deal. The entrance to Sudiva's lair is just off of the Throne room.
     
  13. OchoHoltO

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    We're gonna kill Bellatrix and she's gonna return as a white cu to replace the white hart. LOL...I completely made that up
     
  14. Kylie Kinslayer

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    Re: Adgangskode - Possible Solution??

    LOL


    She did seem more than a little upset that we were attacking her with dragons. After all she seems to think she is the dragon queen or something. One things for sure, just when you think you have EM Bennu figured out, he throws a change up. Never discount anything lol
     
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    Re: Adgangskode - Possible Solution??

    Wow, how did I miss all this? What event was this from?

    I thought I was doing so well with the spiders and the Crux Ansata.




    Also, the painting with the numbers is from an old old old old old event... if I recall correctly, pre AoS times, possibly pre third dawn, even. Love that old stuff that is still sitting in game. :) Heck, it may even be pre t2a, I just remember it being from before... in the old old days.
     
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    Re: Adgangskode - Possible Solution??

    I am not sure what night the first part was but want to say like Wed afternoon/early evening. The second part was Friday afternoon at around 5 est.
     
  17. Miss Ghost

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    Boo Lovely People
    I've been catching up on everything on here and also have my thinking cap on too.
    Ok for those like our Joanna and Faeryl who sadly missed the last two events, where the books came from, we are trying to track down and apprehend Bellatrix Adhara.
    We were first called unexpectedly to arms when she was seen near Covetous and after a thorough sweep of the surrounding area, the knights did a sweep through Covetous and she was located in the room above Sudvia's Lair. I was not there for the first part so did not see what she said at that time. One thing though is she brings fourth numerous guardians to keep us busy whilst she slips away. Books were found which I and others after careful research believe give clues to a pass word. Where for and when eludes at this point in time.
    You will be pleased to hear though that on reporting back after that escapade, Lord Simeon Bennu was able, albeit with difficulty and pain, to address us. The selfless act from D'Artagnan in getting the Golden Heart to the Lady Danica indeed kept him from death.
    D'Artagnan and I were asked to step forward and it was announced that we had both achieved the rank of Private, which made us both extremely proud.
    We were then again alerted when Bellatrix was seen leaving the Covetous Mountains and heading South. This time she was located in the graveyard where she once again proceeded to bring fourth a multitude of guardians, jeering at us when we used Dragons to assist us and bringing fourth her own vile dragon followers to try to thwart us. During this time she remained alot of the time in the small crypt at the back chanting and muttering towards the Ankh there.
    On numerous occasions she has cried out that killing her guardians will only make her stronger, however I believe she is saying this to throw fear into us Knights, which I am thankful to say is not working.
    Again the Knights acted bravely and together and four more were called forward and informed they too had achieved the rank of Private ... Please help me out here fellow Knights with the names of these fine people.
    The two books can be found in the Crux Ansata HQ. I have made several copies of both books for anyone requiring them.
    I look forward to meeting my fellow Knights shortly
     
  18. Kylie Kinslayer

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    Re: Adgangskode - Possible Solution??

    Ok folks, we have a third book. Mini event tonight at Moonglow cemetery. I have no guess at how this fits into the earlier books. But, we were told it helps......
     
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    OK, I been thinking again. Yepp, it hurts lol

    In the meeting at EM Hall he mentioned on occasion people overthink things. He also let us know there was a copy of the third book locked at Crux HQ. When we were there he said the title was the important part. In the third book title the only caps are N and O. NO. Maybe I overthought (seldom the problem with me ha) and ran too complex on the initial post. Could the information we need actually be just the title of the first 2 books? After all, how many folks still simply use password as their passwords? Maybe Bellatrix is doing that same thing only in Danish....


    Just a thought.
     
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    Adgangskode - Possible Solutions? *Thread 2*

    Initially we started this thread here:

    http://vboards.stratics.com/uo-atla...ible-solution-**3rd-book-dropped-10-25**.html

    For an indepth recap please read over that.

    Brief recap:

    Adgangskode is Danish for password/a word or string of words only known by the user

    While looking at the two books that have dropped we noticed a pattern:

    1st Book -
    F N N N N P N P M M N M F P M M {16 Letters}

    2nd Book-
    Ort Wis Wis Wis Wis Hur Wis Hur Mani Mani Wis Mani Ort Hur Mani Mani {16 Power Words}

    F = Ort
    N= Wis
    P= Hur
    M= Mani

    Power word meanings:
    Ort = Magic
    Wis = Know or Knowledge
    Hur = Wind
    Mani = Life or Healing

    Magic Knowledge Wind {of} Healing... That led me to the magic knowledge of the power words for a healing spell. The only one I could come up with is Cleansing Winds... power words:

    In Vas Mani Hur
    Could this be the password? Or does anyone esle have a better line of thinking?



    Bellatrix (Female Warrior) from the constellation Orion (Hunter)
    Adhara (Virgins) from the constellation Canis Major (Larger Dog)


    1st Book (for UO Scholars-or long time players) dropped during the battle in Covetous 3rd level.
    2nd Book (for newer or normal players) dropped during the battle at the Graveyard near Cove.
    3rd Book dropped during the battle at Moonglow graveyard.




    OchoHolto, Faeryl, Falcon of Atlantic, Joanna Weaver and Miss Ghost were all instrumental in getting us this far.
     
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    I don't know if this is of any use, but here's the runes to the power words in the 2nd book, in the same order they appear (ignore the colour difference):

    [​IMG]


    Edit: I was just staring at the first book thinking... And then realised that the capitalized letters make total sense to me now after putting those runes together! :p
     
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    The first book is written in Runic script or "The runes of magic" where the rune that looks like an F for example is ORT

    So book 1 and 2 is the same

    FNNNNPNPMMNMFPMM is the solution for the teleporter puzzle in wisp dungeon 3rd lvl Ilishnar

    went down there but could not find any more clues

    The Title of the third book "No One never not" could be an anagram but the only thing i could come up with was "event Or None on" hehe maybe bennu try to tell uss something
     
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    True, I was thinking with the N and O being caps he was telling us NO on our line of thinking. And in the third book putting math "gibberish" on the pages as a way of telling us the pages have all been gibberish. Because he did mention at the after meeting sometimes folks over complicate things *shrugs*

    I did some digging and found in Ultima IV:

    F = Fireball
    N = Negate
    P = Protection
    M = Magic Missle

    that was before reading here about the solution to puzzle in wisp. One things for sure, he has us using our brains and not just our keyboards and mouse..... BRAVO!!!
     
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    *ding* *ding* *ding* Well done!

    I did the first book to help everyone out, the second book to help figure it out (two books saying the same thing in a different way) and then found out you guys would want an actual puzzle, so I made the 3rd one an actual puzzle :)

    Now, here are the only hints that have been given on the 3rd book:

    *Every code has a cipher, the uncoded cipher is in the title of the book.
    *The title could be read several ways, but is not encoded.
    *The Third book gives context to the other two.

    Good luck! :)
     
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    *moves on to third puzzle*
     
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    The only other thing I would say is, if you get an idea for the 3rd one, follow through with it. Even if you have the right cipher to it it might not make sense at first till you follow through with your idea.
     
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    You know, leave it to me to possibly solve a puzzle that is NOT there, and be totally stumped by the one that IS an actual puzzle :loser:


    :lol:
     
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    Heh. This one's totally frying my brain. I suck with ciphers!


    Edit: Well, any other ideas out there? Mine didn't work out :(
     
  29. Kylie Kinslayer

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    Could you post your idea? Even though it did not work out it could point someone in the right direction. You never know what may shed light for someone else. No biggie it ya don't tho :)
     
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    Well, I figured that each letter in the title had a corresponding number (based on how may times it's in the title) and that each number was a word comprised of a combination of those letters.

    Yeah. I'm pretty sure I was wrong though :)
     
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    So...

    No One never not


    Could be...

    No One
    No 1
    No. 1 (?)


    never not

    Well... double negatives are always fun... and if that's the case then:

    No One always

    or possibly:

    always No One


    and if No One stands for No. 1 then the title would be "always No. 1"

    But then... What's always number 1?


    (just thinking out loud)


    Then of course there's also the fact that there is no single "1" in that whole mess of numbers...

    I'm confused!
     
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    From a random exchange in game at Crux HQ:

    No more hints! It will ruin your fun! :hug:
     
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    I think my poor brain may explode :D
     
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    I think I got it!!!!

    I just need to finish decoding now!

    Edit: 5 more lines, sorry I'm taking so long!
     
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    :popcorn:

    *starts wearing out F5 key*
     
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    So I was completly on the wrong path. Good job yall.
     
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    Here we go!

    nesir si ohw eh rof tiaw dna
    emit ruo edib ew draug yvaeh
    rednu sciler suoicerp
    rieht fo owt dloh llits i
    emit ruo edib ew erehw
    noisnemid etinirox eht
    fo dlohtoof eht rednu dlohgnorts
    eht ot emoc lla uoy yortsed ton od
    atasna xurc eht fo sthgink eht fi
    siht evivrus uoy fi

    Reversed we get:

    if you survive this
    if the knights of the crux ansata
    do not destroy you all come to the
    stronghold under the foothold of
    the xorinite dimension
    where we bide our time
    i still hold two of their
    precious relics under
    heavy guard we bide our time
    and wait for he who is risen
     
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    :party:

    :bowdown:

    Way to go. Glad you listened to him saying if you get a direction run with it. I got Nesir and scratched thru that cypher possibility. Never would have thought to keep on and reverse it. This here Bellatrix is a tricky one.
     
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    Well done.

    :thumbup:

    For those that still want to decode it for themselves:

    Cipher = "No 1" So you start with 2

    A = 2

    Z = 27

    All the words are then backwards, and the entire thing is reversed.
     
  40. Miss Ghost

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    Brilliant, truly brilliant ...

    I've been off for a few days due to RL getting in the way :) Most pleasing to see all is well and the Knights are working together so well.

    All being well I shall attempt to attend this evening, should I be unable to make it I wish you all the best and will hope to catch up with everyone very soon

    *huggles*