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adv and disadv to flowerbed

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Lorddog, May 24, 2011.

  1. Lorddog

    Lorddog Crazed Zealot
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    pls in simple terms what are the advantages and disadvantages in flowerbed?
     
  2. Tina Small

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    I'll take a shot at trying to reply with my thoughts regarding the beds, based on a bit of testing I did on TC1.

    Advantages

    The beds let you grow up to nine plants at a time with no need for potions. In other words, you get potion-free production of plants for use as deco plants (to be used as is or cut up for use in the manufacturing of dyes or baskets) or to harvest seeds, green thorns, orange petals, red leaves, cocoa pulp, bark fragments, poppy dust, sacks of sugar, or Seeds of Renewal.

    Disadvantages

    You can't customize your house while you have a raised gardening bed "deployed."

    If you need to change your raised gardening bed back to deed form, you must either change the seeds/saplings back into seeds and start over with them later; abandon the plants and lose them; or turn them into decorative plants before they have finished yielding all of their possible seeds and resources.

    While the seeds or plants are in the beds, they don't show up using control-shift the same as plants in pots. So until the plants hit day 7 in their growth cycle, it's pretty much impossible to know what you've got growing unless you planted fully identified seeds and remember what you put in each section of a bed. You can tell the color of the young plant before day 7 but that's it.

    You will probably only get one raised gardening bed per account upgrade, so you'll have to select which shard you'll use it on. It's unknown at this point whether the beds are account or character-bound or will be able to be sold between accounts.

    It's unknown at this point what happens to a plant if you leave it in a bed past the point where it has finished producing seeds/resources. All the plants people were testing are gone now because TC1 is now a copy of Pacific shard. Do any unharvested seeds/resources stay on the plant while it is still in the bed? Can you leave the plant in the bed in that state indefinitely or will it automatically convert to decorative form and the resources are lost? Or will it die and poof?

    It's also unknown if the deeds for the beds (and chests of sending) will be blessed items on Siege. I'm guessing they won't be blessed, so thieves will be able to steal them and they can be lost through decay if your character dies with one in its backpack and it isn't looted or you can't get back to your character's corpse in time to retrieve it.
     
  3. TullyMars

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    I haven't been following closely nor have i jumped on test but...somewhere in the back of my mind I remember plants grown in flower beds were not supposed to give any resources or seeds and if you wanted resources and seeds you would have to grow them the traditional way. Did i get wrong information?
     
  4. Tina Small

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    That information seems to have been premature. Once the plants "matured," they appeared to give resources. Below is a screen shot of some "day 8" plants showing the normal fraction for how many seeds are left on the plant. Younger plants just showed X's on the reproduction gump in the areas for pollen, resources, and seeds. (See other screen shot below.) I never had a chance to actually collect seeds from the plants but others who got their plants started a day or two before I got mine started made posts that implied they actually pulled seeds and/or resources off their plants and cross-pollinated them. (http://vboards.stratics.com/1961993-post229.html and http://vboards.stratics.com/1962035-post232.html)

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  5. Pinco

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    Let's see all as it is:

    except the housing problems, the raised bed just raise the plant with or without fertile dirt (if you have the fertile dirt on backpack you can choose to use it). The plant grow normally, the only difference is that you don't need potions or water.
     
  6. Elric_Soban

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    is this a UO game codes purchase or some kindof in-game reward?
     
  7. Storm

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    it is still in testing and will be part of one of the packs that will be for sale at a future date!

    Publish 70.4
    Please join us on TC1 for a preview of our newest Theme Packs that can be purchased later this month.



    Rustic Theme Pack

    Topiaries – goblin and llama – Entitled players can use clippers on a hedge and get the choice of a topiary
    Rustic Bench- Craftable
    Raised Garden Bed – a maintenance free garden bed to place your seeds in and walk away. No potions or daily care needed. There will be a reward giver set up in New Haven so you can get this item.
    Distillery – Craftable - Have a drink or two and tell us what you think.
    Board and Batten wall tiles – Housing Customization tool
    Access to the Encampment System – Commodity Broker or Pet Broker - Additional documents will be posted to explain this feature


    Gothic Theme Pack

    Gargoyle Statues - Craftable
    Ritual Table - Craftable
    Chest of Sending – You can send anything in your house to the bank if the chest is locked down . There will be a reward giver set up in New Haven so you can get this item.
    Advanced Training Dummy – Craftable - Will train your weapon skills to 60.
    Gothic Wall Tiles – House customization tool
    Access to the Encampment System – Commodity Broker or Pet Broker - Additional documents will be posted to explain this feature
     
  8. Elric_Soban

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    well im not in a big hurry to go spending more money on gamecodes, after my boat damn near sank.. but that garden bed would help alot. I have a funny habit of forgetting about plants..
     
  9. Lady Storm

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    I'd really like a set of one of each size for the flower beds... but knowing uo I bet id have to buy more then 1 pack to get that......
     
  10. Yalp

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    Excellent work as usual from Tina! Thx!


     
  11. CovenantX

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    When you grow plants in the Garden bed, you don't have to use potions, does that mean you don't have to water the plants as well?
     
  12. Tina Small

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    Yes, the plants in the raised garden beds don't require potions or water.
     
  13. G.v.P

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    Someone on the Test Center Shard forum said he ran through a full cycle and you couldn't get seeds. He made that statement before the content was up for a week, so I don't know why he said that because no one was able to complete a full cycle by the time he made his statement. I asked him about it but he never replied.

    They changed Test Center like two days ago or something (was GL, now it's a Pacific mirror), without telling us, so all the work Tina and the testers (sounds like a band) were working on fell apart. But for anyone who wants to test them out, there should be, I assume, a spawner item on the New Haven docks. I got to nine days myself, but I was growing mutants so I can't verify seeds/resources.
     
  14. Tina Small

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    Just checked again on the new version of TC1 and there are no spawners of any sort in New Haven or Britain. So unless the devs have found a new place to plunk spawner statues, bonding gates, etc., there doesn't seem to be anything unusual on TC1 at this time that you can acquire to help with testing. It's just a clone of the Pacific shard.

    I did notice that Mesanna replied to a thread in the Test Center forum today indicating that the "grow_plant" command still works on test center shards, but only if you have the gump already open. (I assume she means the plant's gump.) Why that particular post warranted a reply today after you can no longer do any testing of the raised beds and after the new packs apparently went up for sale on the Japanese UO site is beyond me.

    I wonder if Athos could tell us if he knows any Japanese players who have already acquired the beds and if they've noticed any differences between the real thing and the test center versions, how many beds they got with their purchase, etc.
     
  15. Nimuaq

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    This guide probably clarifies it: 屋内花壇

    花壇で育てられている間は、日数が経過しても植物は枯れないので、そのまま家の装飾として花壇に植えておくことができます。充分成長した植物であれば、通常の栽培と同じように観葉植物することもできます。

    種や資源を生み出すタイプの植物だった場合は、通常の栽培と同じように種や資源の収穫もできます。ただし、植物は生涯に生み出すことが出来る種や資源の数に限りがあるので、永久に種や資源を採り続けることはできません。

    athos uo, can you help?
     
  16. G.v.P

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    oh well :(