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Advice - Do you need all 3 taming skills (Vet, Lore, Taming) to be a tamer

Discussion in 'UO Tamer' started by imported_JediSith, Dec 28, 2007.

  1. The title explain my question...

    I want to have a Bard/Tamer with

    120 Peace
    120 Discord
    120 prov
    120 Music
    120 Taming
    120 Vet
    120 Magery

    these will have items boosts...eg song woven mantle etc
     
  2. Trukx

    Trukx Guest

    If you dont plan on keeping high end pets and are not pressed for stable space then I guess you dont really need it. Similarly, if you arent intersted in curing or ressing your pet you also dont need it.

    Not to critique the template, but my question would be Bard, do you need all 4?
     
  3. DrDolittle

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    Since the last tamer nurf, taming alone is ineffective when it comes to controlling any worthwhile pets so the 120 taming in your template would be pretty much wasted. Further, veterinary is less effective without the animal lore skill.

    And, on the philosophical side of the question, I would say that you do need all three skills to be a tamer. [​IMG]
     
  4. Llewen

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    Pet's die, it's just a fact of the game. You can minimize pet deaths, but they will always die at some point. Not being able to rez your own pets would be a major pain in the petuli...
     
  5. DrDolittle

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    Pet's die, it's just a fact of the game. You can minimize pet deaths, but they will always die at some point. Not being able to rez your own pets would be a major pain in the petuliā€¦

    [/ QUOTE ]Not to mention that at 120 taming 0 lore the most powerful pet you would have more than marginal control over would be a polar bear so the poor thing would probably die a lot! [​IMG]
     
  6. Guest

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    Noxin has created a wonderful tool for calculating minimum tame/lore requirements for controlling the main big critters. You can find it here:-

    Noxin's Control Chance Calculator

    At a guess, I'd presume you'd want to be making use of rather higher tames than, say, frenzied ostards. If I sling in 120 Tame skill and 0 Animal Lore skill, it swiftly tells me I have a 0% chance of controlling so much as a drake. [​IMG]

    One of the great things is that you can fiddle around with Noxin's Tool *cough* to see exactly how much Lore you'd need for specific pets.

    You aren't asking for template advice or comments per se, however, from your template, I'd certainly substitute Animal Lore for Peacemaking.

    Why Animal Lore in favour of Peacemaking?

    (1)The max tame/lore skills permit use &amp; maximum possible control of any/all tameables;

    (2) Animal Lore augments vetting skill (as Anatomy aguments Healing skill);

    (3) Max Taming/Lore/Vet = max stable slots;

    (4) With high level Discordance skill, if discorded first, all but the highest level monsters will be dead &amp; looted long before the skill timer delay will permit you to peace them. If peaced first, most high level monsters will break peace before you can discord them so your pets will take a bashing anyway; and

    (5) High level tameables will usually break even 120 Peace (with 120 Music) before you can complete a successful tame attempt.

    While others find peacemaking very handy, I just find it irksome when paired with taming skills. Horses for courses, and it's your own individual playstyle which matters here rather than mine or anyone elses'.

    You could always create a char on test shard to see how each of the skills benefits you and see which you would be prepared to drop.