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After the kill... 120321 etc

Discussion in 'UO Siege Perilous' started by imported_OldAsTheHills, Jan 14, 2008.

  1. One of the games I play on Siege Perilous is to count the days in between
    being pked! Previously, WyRm choose to kill me during the second day of
    the Magincia Darkgate event, then there was Blindside while I was shopping.
    Not really too bad of time in between, and not complaining about the dirtnap
    or the usual drylooting.

    What is curious was the worded quote of numbers afterward.
    Clearly to me this is some sort of scripting or macroing. I do use the game
    macros sometimes, but not really a need for me to function. I still only use
    point and click on icons on the screen. I do not plan to change this.

    What is the question? The question is:

    How many people using this fancy macroing or scripting?
    If this is really part of the game, then this forum needs to publish the methods!
    No PM this to me. Either share or not share folks.

    *stares*
    Yahaxithonix
     
  2. Its called using your number pad for spells. this is why you think we are exploiters because we know how to use all the buttons on the keyboard??? are you serious.
     
  3. Guest

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    Trammies like me will use alt/shift/cntrl, e.g. cntrl-1 or alt-g, and function keys for their keyboard macros so that we can talk easily. Serious PvPers and others will use the base keys, so 1 is flamestrike, 2 is drink healing potion, etc. That is why they end up with this string of characters afterwards.

    I can understand why you may not have known this, but really, you should have phrased the question differently before accusing people of cheating first.
     
  4. SoulWeaver

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    I use all my F keys, I use Crtl 1-9 if i need to and i know alot of my friends use there num pads... or they acutally have a seperate keyboard you can buy now just for gaming macros... its pretty sweet. But yeah if you know your macros and what to cast its very easy to do things quickly.
     
  5. Guest

    Guest Guest

    RTLFC

    Knew a young idiot on Europa tied his 'all kill' command to the 'e' key, then wondered why he got killed everytime he tried to talk to anyone.
     
  6. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I do not see any mention of cheating in the original post. Did I miss something?
     
  7. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I use the F1-F12 keys, ctrl, and "[]\=-" keys for most of my macros. So, if you see me saying "[]][[[][][[]][][[]", it usually means I've been hitting my next-target, previous-target macros repeatedly.
     
  8. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I would say the OP seemed to be implying it. Mention of scripting and his closing remark.
     
  9. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Hmm... Scripting is a touchy word. It does not necessarily imply cheating. I tend to avoid using the word myself as it generally leads to misunderstandings.
     
  10. Unless scripting, which is obviously done with an illegal 3rd party program, is now legal to use i'd say he was accusing wyrm and blindside of cheating. But I personally wouldnt bother locking the thread there are many more people that will chime in to remind this fella how stupid he is not to know the very basic core game mechanics that make this game work. Especially someone who is such a long time veteran. I award you a golden DUH!
     
  11. majorwoo

    majorwoo Guest

    He asked about fancy macros or scripting - while here in UO land we take scripting to mean 3rd party programs, there are many games where some sort of a built in scripting engine exists (we just call them macros here).
    Technically, uo assist has a simple scripting interface built into it.

    Anyway, I'm with Kelmo here - he's curious, just like he said - not accusing.

    *edit*
    Yes, as a mage you run out of keys very fast. When I was first playing, I useing my F keys as well, but once I got into more pvp, you simply run out of keys - and you want them grouped where you can get to them faster. Less finger movement to reach your interrupt spell can mean the difference between getting flamestruck, or fizzling them.
     
  12. Guest

    Guest Guest

  13. <blockquote><hr>

    Trammies like me will use alt/shift/cntrl, e.g. cntrl-1 or alt-g, and function keys for their keyboard macros so that we can talk easily. Serious PvPers and others will use the base keys, so 1 is flamestrike, 2 is drink healing potion, etc. That is why they end up with this string of characters afterwards.

    I can understand why you may not have known this, but really, you should have phrased the question differently before accusing people of cheating first.

    [/ QUOTE ]
    I asked a question! I made no declaration of cheating upon anyone!
    *stares*
    Yahaxithonix
     
  14. <blockquote><hr>

    I do not see any mention of cheating in the original post. Did I miss something?

    [/ QUOTE ]
    It is way people read words... lost in translation. True enough... people think
    one way, read another. I just assume that my text implied something to the
    reader. It is OK! Upon review of the text, I just can not re-write it any differently.

    *stares*
    Yahaxithonix
     
  15. <blockquote><hr>

    Unless scripting, which is obviously done with an illegal 3rd party program, is now legal to use i'd say he was accusing wyrm and blindside of cheating. But I personally wouldnt bother locking the thread there are many more people that will chime in to remind this fella how stupid he is not to know the very basic core game mechanics that make this game work. Especially someone who is such a long time veteran. I award you a golden DUH!

    [/ QUOTE ]
    No one can tell if anyone is using a 3rd party program during play!
    I was just wondering why there are all those numbers streaming afterwards?
    Are people just punching the numbers hoping to get the keystroke event to happen?
    To me, it looks strange. I can never get that to happen using macros.
    Of course, I do not use UOAssist or UOAM, or anything else. If the Developers
    wanted that, they would have put it in the game package.
    Regardless of other posters opinions, I see these as if people using a cane to
    walk through the game.
    No, I will never use them.
    *stares*
    Yahaxithonix
     
  16. Guest

    Guest Guest

    *chuckles* Then you would hate my n52/G15/super mouse setup. Not that it makes me any better. It is pretty damn convenient though.
     
  17. majorwoo

    majorwoo Guest

    I'll see your n52/G15/Q42/PZ87 and raise you a wii.
    Yes, we are working on getting it to play uo.

    Why? Because we can.
     
  18. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Laughs there are foot pedals out there too!
     
  19. If it is just rapid keystroke events, the question is answered.
    By the way, everyone else, I play a different game than you do.
    And, I do have my days of fun.

    *stares*
    Yahaxithonix
     
  20. Guest

    Guest Guest

    That is pretty much it. *nods*
     
  21. I have this head band set up to my eyebrows . With a wiggle off my eye I can toggle all names. [​IMG]
     
  22. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Well, okay, I apologise if I falsely accused you. It just seemed to be what the post was inferring.
     
  23. Guest

    Guest Guest

    <blockquote><hr>

    I have this head band set up to my eyebrows . With a wiggle off my eye I can toggle all names. [​IMG]

    [/ QUOTE ]

    I have to have one of those!
     
  24. <blockquote><hr>

    Well, okay, I apologise if I falsely accused you. It just seemed to be what the post was inferring.

    [/ QUOTE ]The words; 'cheat, cheating, cheater,
    are in my vocabulary. No apology is necessary. I guess I need to check my
    emotions in the vault before typing. May be showing up when I least want it
    to.
    *stares*
    Yahaxithonix
     
  25. <blockquote><hr>

    <blockquote><hr>

    I have this head band set up to my eyebrows . With a wiggle off my eye I can toggle all names. [​IMG]

    [/ QUOTE ]

    I have to have one of those!

    [/ QUOTE ]The toys are changing too fast these days.
    And, with multiple core chips may be some changes how we view the game.
    I suppose that KR was to do that, but I hope they perfect it; meaning = no more
    than 1 crash per four hour play period. May be KR will allow you to use the new
    toys.

    But, I mostly worry about player behaviors inside the game. Not about stuff
    that I can not see, detect, or really do anything about.
    [KoC] is no different than [Vmp] groups so they will be a baseline constant inside
    the game. I just not on speaking terms with them, never will.
    *stares*
    Yahaxithonix
     
  26. Guest

    Guest Guest

    When I use to play...

    I used..

    All F Keys

    Ctrl &amp; Alt on half the letters on Keyboard.

    Ctrl &amp; Alt On All Numbers

    Numpad

    Directional Pad

    Home, End, Page Up/Down, Delete, Insert
     
  27. I read your post, than many of the responses. I immediately went back to your post to see if you edited it to cover up your accusation of someone cheating... But found no edit... I'm not sure where people got the idea you were accusing anyone of any foul play. But,

    Ill answer your question in my case:
    I use ctrl+alt+[key] macros for the most part. Then I program my g15 keyboard's extra keys to those combinations. You usually will not see the extra characters come from me. Except for "-" thats programmed as my 'equip last' macro, so frequently I will have my text full of ----------- after a fight. But, "--" is also the precursor to UOAM chat, so frequently I am sending messages out on UOAM by accident:)

    I used to program them as num-pad numbers, but got tired of not being able to use the num pad:)
     
  28. Lorddog

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    I see your question because I would have perhaps asked the same thing until I met aria (in waka now?) who on her other character programed the spells on her numbers. So anytime I talked to her she casted spells like crazy just saying a few short words to me.
    I notice I get a slow building list when I didnt hold down the ctrl key on my normal macros.

    Lorddog
     
  29. majorwoo

    majorwoo Guest

    when i want to talk to someone, i tend to put on caps lock,and then hold down shift. this negates most of my macros from going on on letters (i do have a few shift+letters)

    This was, I thought a safe way for my red to talk in town, until I realized thunderstorm was on shift+a
     
  30. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I use F1-F8 (I hate reaching further than F8), 1-4, ALT1-4, QWEASD for spell macros.
     
  31. Guest

    Guest Guest

    There are numbers on our keyboard ??

    OH GASP there are !! lol

    I play a different game too !!

    F1 hide
    F2 I wish to lock this down
    F3 I wish to secure this
    F4 GUARDS ! GUARDS ! I love this one makes all my parrot birdies squak at me bout only time I use it is on my roof to make em all squak

    F9 Use last item comes in handy choppin wood same hatchet on new trees
    F10 I BAN THEE
    F 12 REMOVE THY SELF


    I think that is about it for my super duper macros ! PHER ME !
     
  32. Patty Pickaxe

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    <blockquote><hr>

    I read your post, than many of the responses. I immediately went back to your post to see if you edited it to cover up your accusation of someone cheating... But found no edit... I'm not sure where people got the idea you were accusing anyone of any foul play.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    This was the line that made me feel he was accusing people of cheating....

    <blockquote><hr>

    Clearly to me this is some sort of scripting or macroing

    [/ QUOTE ]

    In UO, and especially on stratics, I think I'm right when I say "Scripting" has always been associated with "haxxoring" and "exploiting" and "cheating". Someone please correct me if I am wrong.
     
  33. if its a pvp mage, they"re running at least 2/5 casting meaning they are at almost max casting speed, all they"re doing is pressing their spell macros to cast the spell.. as in, my explosion spell is assigned to my W key therefore when i press w i cast explosion.. now if i cast explosion over and over, then press enter.. it would look like this "wwwwwwwwww" some people just press enter to get rid of text due to casting spells, instead of backspacing it.
     
  34. Guest

    Guest Guest

    <blockquote><hr>

    Of the macros that I do use, I can never really get a good program response
    to pressing the same or other keystrokes quickly. I usually get that text
    message: Must wait to do another action. Unless, Blindside and others have
    virtual no wait between keystrokes, I thought that they would just be timed
    out by the 'Must wait to do ... ". Does everyone have maximum in FC and FCR?
    I do understand that the macro can be set up to take care of waiting stituations,
    but still wondering why the numbers come to the screen. Is someone using the
    esc key here to purge?

    "shrugs"
    Yahaxithonix

    [/ QUOTE ]

    What the heck are you talking about?

    How are you not understanding that some macros are macroed to letters and numbers? After they finish killing you, they'd rather hit enter to clear it rather than hold down escape for 10 seconds.

    *shrugs*

    Edit: and if they're wearing an Orny, they'll be at max casting speed with that and a 1/3 ring or bracelet. After you've been PvPing for a while, you know exactly when your spell is recovered - it's almost instant when you're casting 3/6.

    Macros don't "take care" of waiting situations - as in, make them go away. :|

    Misconceptions, misconceptions.
     
  35. <blockquote><hr>

    if its a pvp mage, they"re running at least 2/5 casting meaning they are at almost max casting speed, all they"re doing is pressing their spell macros to cast the spell.. as in, my explosion spell is assigned to my W key therefore when i press w i cast explosion.. now if i cast explosion over and over, then press enter.. it would look like this "wwwwwwwwww" some people just press enter to get rid of text due to casting spells, instead of backspacing it.

    [/ QUOTE ]Ok.
    That makes somewhat sense to me, the &lt;enter&gt; does cause the in.buffer to
    clear by sending it to the screen at the cursor. TY.
    My machine never lets me do that though.
    *stares*
    Yahaxithonix
     
  36. Guest

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    <blockquote><hr>

    just some fyi, mage casting is capped at 2/6, chiv 4/6, and spellweaving 3/9

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Hmm.

    Damn, they must've changed it after I quit the last time. It was 3/6 when I quit. :p
     
  37. Guest

    Guest Guest

    <blockquote><hr>

    Of the macros that I do use, I can never really get a good program response
    to pressing the same or other keystrokes quickly. I usually get that text
    message: Must wait to do another action. Unless, Blindside and others have
    virtual no wait between keystrokes, I thought that they would just be timed
    out by the 'Must wait to do ... ". Does everyone have maximum in FC and FCR?
    I do understand that the macro can be set up to take care of waiting stituations,
    but still wondering why the numbers come to the screen. Is someone using the
    esc key here to purge?
    "shrugs"
    Yahaxithonix

    [/ QUOTE ]


    when you assign numbers or letters to macros and you use them the letters and numbers stay on your screen like as if you were typing to talk,

    after the battle or kill you just hit enter to get rid of all the text on your screen

    this is what you see, when they hit enter the letters and numbers are expelled above their heads just like talking.
     
  38. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I forgot to add:

    most everybody is running 2/6 or 2/5 for casting, you would die in PvP without it
    the timing to avoid the 'you must wait" is all in the users experience, they mentally know how long a spell takes depending the casting speed they are using. this is why a lot of people say mage Pvpers are skillful and dexxers are point and click. I have no opinion. I think it takes a lot of items for both.
     
  39. <blockquote><hr>

    <blockquote><hr>

    I read your post, than many of the responses. I immediately went back to your post to see if you edited it to cover up your accusation of someone cheating... But found no edit... I'm not sure where people got the idea you were accusing anyone of any foul play.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    This was the line that made me feel he was accusing people of cheating....

    <blockquote><hr>

    Clearly to me this is some sort of scripting or macroing

    [/ QUOTE ]

    In UO, and especially on stratics, I think I'm right when I say "Scripting" has always been associated with "haxxoring" and "exploiting" and "cheating". Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

    [/ QUOTE ]
    Ok. I'll give you that one. I agree you are right that scripting tends to carry a negative connotation on Stratics and in UO. But c'mon, look at him, he doesn't realize that if you press the "1" key, then the "7" key, then the "4" key then press enter, that "174" will appear above your head; ya can't expect him to know any better:p
     
  40. Of course any key can have the actions:
    Cast a spell: name of spell
    Wait action
    Wait action
    Wait action
    Wait action
    Cast a spell: name of spell

    The idea is to avoid that : wait to do an action response.
    This is also, kind of useless. So, I do not do this.

    *stares*
    Yahaxithonix
     
  41. Guest

    Guest Guest

    <blockquote><hr>

    Of course any key can have the actions:
    Cast a spell: name of spell
    Wait action
    Wait action
    Wait action
    Wait action
    Cast a spell: name of spell

    The idea is to avoid that : wait to do an action response.
    This is also, kind of useless. So, I do not do this.

    *stares*
    Yahaxithonix

    [/ QUOTE ]


    this sort of macro would be self defeating. without the wait commands you have the option to cast different spells in different sequences

    if you are about to heal and you see a flamestrike coming at you you have options, try to fizzle their spell or hold a heal, if the macros auto target or wait for the spell you would be locked in, there is also a cancel spell macro, this comes in handy in case you need to cancel that EV and cast a heal instead.
     
  42. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Ok so I take it My Pally Med Archer on a prod shard would benifit more from the 4/6 casting then the current 20 physical resist, hpr 2, resisting spells 15,meditaton 14, dex 5, hci 15, dci 15, lmc 5 combination, oh dam i believe theres 5 or 10 hps on there too! I use a resiliant bracer of course, and a halfway decent ring that fills all the gaps, Basically what Im asking is am I really screwin myself over not having that 4/6. Spose the only way to know for sure is to start screwin around with the suit again heh. If I drop the Bracer I have to Bump Magic resist up 15 points to a natural 120 so Ill lose out on 15 elsewhere [​IMG] .
    Wow in the 5 minutes it took me to type in my response and questions they where answerwed heh, thx
    Anyway....Sort of back on topic, something Ive always wanted to know for a while but never asked is how well does it work to say set one key to do some basic combo spells, Exp FS for example by adding in delays before casting the next spell? Or even DF and CW then primary or secoundary ability with one keystroke? Lol Im sure if this is possible you pot chuggers out there do like a disarm drink pot re-arm macro but then that would only be possible with UOA right? Sorry folks [​IMG]
     
  43. Guest

    Guest Guest

    cast spell
    wait for target
    target last
    cast spell
    wait for target
    target last

    so on so on so on
     
  44. Guest

    Guest Guest

    you pally med archer could benifit from faster casting depending on what spells you use

    if you use chiv for healing in conjunction with the healing skill, then yes, adn if you do any sort of PvP I would recommend it.

    chiv heal/cure with healing with pots, un killable
     
  45. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I rely on healing for healing and curing really, although there have been those times when it would have been nice to get that cleanse by fire in before the bandie kicked in! Mainly I use DF and CW and specials, in dire circumstances Ive attempted to close wounds. Ok with a 4/6 casting is there any delay between df and cw?
     
  46. Guest

    Guest Guest

    My Mage Macro's

    F1 - Meditation
    F2 - Greater Heal
    F3 - Paralyze
    F4 - Poison
    F5 - Greater Explosion
    F6 - E - Bolt
    F7 - Mind Blast
    F8 - Flame Strike
    F9 - Invis

    F10 - Ressurection
    F11 - Gate Travel
    F12 - Teleport

    1 - UOA Macro
    2 - Cure
    3 - Magic Arrow
    4 - Lesser Heal
    5 - Weaken
    6 - Lightning
    7 - Mass Dispel
    8 - Fireball
    9 - Harm
    0 - Last Target
    - - Curse
    = - Strength

    Backspace - Primary Ability
    \ - Secondary Ability

    Ctrl S - All follow Me
    Ctrl A - All Kill
    Ctrl C - Arch Cure
    Ctrl B - Remove Curse
    Ctrl T - Target Next
    Ctrl Y - Attack Last

    C - Chain Lightning
    B - Bless

    Mouse Wheel Up - Target Self
    Mouse Wheel Middle Click - Cure Potion
    Muse Wheel Down - Heal Potion

    NUM PAD
    Decimal - Refresh Pot
    0- Enchanted Apple

    Left Arrow Key UOA macro - Eat Rose Petal &amp; Orange Petal
    Right Arrow Key UOA macro - Greater Str &amp; Agility Potion
    Up Arrow Key UOA macro - Mount Pet
    Down Arrow Key UOA macro - Dismount

    Those are just the ones I know off my head atm I sure I have alot more
     
  47. First, not protesting this occurence of extra letters, just curious.
    Second, before you think I am 'Daffy' and pull out the shotgun to shoot me,
    you need to consider what game I am playing!
    Third, I achieve my goal in this game. Ha!
    *stares*
    Yahaxithonix
     
  48. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I find it easy and im sure most of you do the same But all my charectors have similiar spells and abilities linked to the same key. like F1 is cure, and cleanse by fire!