Sheesh I suck at this learning to train skills from the start! Detect Hidden: I currently started a char with zero detect hidden, bought it up from the NPC to 29.5. UOGuide says use a tinker with 35 skill to make boxes so I created a new char with 50 carp and 35 tinkering to craft a few boxes (exceptional and non). And those boxes should take me to around 60 detect skill, then I can use gm made tinker boxes. I tried using detect on them unlocked, locked, in my pack, on the ground and NO gains. So again, what am I doing wrong? P.S. Yes I read about the factions/faction traps way, but I really prefer to not go this route.