1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.
  2. Greetings Guest!!

    In order to combat SPAM on the forums, all users are required to have a minimum of 2 posts before they can submit links in any post or thread.

    Dismiss Notice

All 3 accounts getting deactivated

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Lynk, Apr 23, 2012.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Lynk

    Lynk Grand Poobah
    Stratics Veteran

    Joined:
    May 13, 2008
    Messages:
    6,032
    Likes Received:
    145
    As a casual player, I spent a great deal of time a couple years ago investing in having a red mage (acct 1), a sampire (acct 2), and a stealth protector (acct 3) on most servers. Most relied on faction artifacts.

    Now you changed it, and I can't keep rank on 1 server, much less 10.

    in a matter of weeks i can't play any of my characters besides the couple that happened to be built around no arties.

    I realized today that I haven't spent more than 1 hour in UO in the last 2 weeks. Why am I paying $39 per month?

    thanks for killing my play style.

    will be emptying my towers on atl, chessy, and gl before this subscription runs out - so sorry there won't be any good loot or idoc.

    Maybe I'll get bored and come back, but then again maybe I won't.
     
  2. Flutter

    Flutter Always Present
    Stratics Veteran Alumni Stratics Legend

    Joined:
    May 12, 2004
    Messages:
    21,553
    Likes Received:
    3,840
  3. Storm

    Storm UO Forum Moderator
    Moderator Professional Premium Wiki Moderator Stratics Veteran Stratics Legend

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2004
    Messages:
    7,469
    Likes Received:
    361
    safe journey's
     
  4. Flutter

    Flutter Always Present
    Stratics Veteran Alumni Stratics Legend

    Joined:
    May 12, 2004
    Messages:
    21,553
    Likes Received:
    3,840
    I miss you already!
     
  5. Picus of Napa

    Picus of Napa Slightly Crazed
    Stratics Veteran Stratics Legend

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2003
    Messages:
    1,494
    Likes Received:
    322
    Sadly no one on stratics cares. This is more or less the same issue I face but on a smaller amount of shards. Most, it seems, are glad that people like you and I have lost the ablity to multi shard even if it improved the local economy and increased player count.

    In the last week I have seen my guild go from a "fairly" healthy 8 people to 2 whom still want to log in.

    Good Luck with your journey. I've always enjoyed reading your postings and the information you provided to the players. Players such as yourself are the greatest selling feature this game has and now you are gone.
     
    Flutter likes this.
  6. pumpkin_escobar

    pumpkin_escobar Journeyman

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2011
    Messages:
    195
    Likes Received:
    58
    Hopefully they change things back... good luck to you
     
  7. Bob the Merchant

    Bob the Merchant Adventurer

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2012
    Messages:
    96
    Likes Received:
    60
    Lets be honest here. You were part of a multi shard guild that actively made gameplay difficult for others. Now that this guild is no longer active and factions fixed, you wish to berate EA for *killing your play style*? What about those who left before you due to your guilds play style? Sorry you are leaving, can I have your stuff?
     
  8. Poo

    Poo The Grandest of the PooBah’s
    Professional Stratics Veteran Alumni Stratics Legend Campaign Benefactor 4H

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2003
    Messages:
    7,846
    Likes Received:
    2,398
    you know what is strange.
    im in the exact boat!
    granted work and RL got real busy, but in the last 15 years ive always been able to find time to get on and go play and do some faction fighting.
    but since they killed all my suits on EVERY North American shard..... i just cant get motivated to even begin to try to log on to fix it.
    i did fix my primary 2 shards before the patch went in, but for the other like 12 shards..... i just cant bring myself to do it.
    which, like mentioned above, kills my game play.

    alas, ill stick it out.
    i have nothing else to do, haha
    but i can totally see where your coming from bro!
     
    Lord Frodo likes this.
  9. Bob the Merchant

    Bob the Merchant Adventurer

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2012
    Messages:
    96
    Likes Received:
    60
    I don't understand people having issues with factions. Rank 10 was never designed to support the entire playerbase (at the same time). The ranking system was present to reward those who actively played and did well. Unfortunately people took advantage of a (then) broken system to artificially inflate the points, giving everyone rank 10.

    IMO, if you built a suit around these items in a system you know to be bugged then you have no one to blame but yourself when it gets nerfed. Too many times have I walked around in game seeing sampires fighting end game monsters solo with a rank 10 faction suit. Do these players exist in fel? No. Did they ever play there? No.

    So whats the problem?
     
    tjm6f4, keel, Xalan Dementia and 3 others like this.
  10. Petra Fyde

    Petra Fyde Peerless Chatterbox
    Stratics Veteran Alumni Stratics Legend

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2001
    Messages:
    30,889
    Likes Received:
    5,175
    Could maybe faction members on the various shards help you get equipped?
     
    Bazer likes this.
  11. Petra Fyde

    Petra Fyde Peerless Chatterbox
    Stratics Veteran Alumni Stratics Legend

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2001
    Messages:
    30,889
    Likes Received:
    5,175
    Not true. Some of us care too much. I hate to see Lynk go, I value his knowledge and the help he has given to players very much. But I'm at a loss to know what I, personally, could possibly do to help. If I were one of those people who have arties and billions in gold on every shard I'd offer to help equip his and Poo's characters, and Flutter's for that matter. But I've never played for gold and am at best a mediocre pvmer. The equipment my own characters wear would probably throw all three of them into fits of hysterical laughter.
     
    Mirt and Tina Small like this.
  12. Uvtha

    Uvtha Grand Poobah
    Stratics Veteran

    Joined:
    May 24, 2008
    Messages:
    6,528
    Likes Received:
    2,914
    I agree factions was not meant to sustain a population at rank 10. Whats the problem? It did. For years. I don't think the problem is very hard to grasp.

    They implemented a broken system, then rather than fix it in a timely fashion they left it in place for THREE YEARS assuring that it more or less HAD to become an integral factor in the way people play. When years down they road they decide out of nowhere to "fix" it, it leaves EVERYONE who used the system (read: every single person in factions) in a major lurch.

    I think that factions MAY recover, but I don't think that it will. The people who like to pvp (I have a feeling people in factions made up a LOT of that group) have been dealt a very real blow, which comes on top of like a decade of overall neglect, and it presents those people with a good excuse to just let UO go, as we see with the above poster, you keep putting off large chunks of a loyal and seriously dwindling playerbase the games gonna die eventually.

    Its not even so much the change they made, but how little they took into consideration the effect of their years of neglect of the pvp system had wrought. Its a classic UO development move. I saw the very same years of inaction destroy siege, the only shard I play or would consider playing.

    And in closing, I don't know Lynk in game but I have on many occasions found his posts to be very helpful and illuminating, especially on the warrior board, and like another person said, people who help others understand the game better like he surely has in the past are not the players you want to get rid of.
     
  13. Ron Silverbeard

    Ron Silverbeard Certifiable
    Stratics Veteran Alumni

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2011
    Messages:
    1,741
    Likes Received:
    576
    Ahem, can i have your stuff, or, can you go delete it? sorry but this is tradition....
     
    yars likes this.
  14. O'Brien

    O'Brien Thought Police

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2012
    Messages:
    285
    Likes Received:
    159
    Why should folks in factions have access to superior gear to folks not in factions?

    And if your whole playstyle was based around running around in an uber suit never having to worry about updating it, then you were bound to quit anyway. Be grateful it took 3 years before the faction exploiting gig was up. Never before in UO history has a suit lasted 3 years without becoming obsolete.
     
  15. THP

    THP Stratics Legend
    Stratics Veteran Stratics Legend

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2003
    Messages:
    9,941
    Likes Received:
    1,708
    more and more are leaving....its time to merge...and i dont mean a couple of shards merging...i mean merge into 1 single shard....2 at the most...east/west
     
  16. GalenKnighthawke

    GalenKnighthawke Grand Poobah
    Stratics Veteran

    Joined:
    May 12, 2008
    Messages:
    6,641
    Likes Received:
    1,163
    No one should ever have depended on Faction Artifacts, especially not a player who supports the notion of UO as a cutthroat competition with other players (which Lynk's made clear in numerous posts that he did).

    -Galen's player
     
    Daelomin likes this.
  17. Aibal

    Aibal Slightly Crazed
    Stratics Veteran

    Joined:
    May 14, 2008
    Messages:
    1,292
    Likes Received:
    170
    Safe journey's Lynk. I understand your pain, as I have characters on three shards that will now take me weeks to re-suit, if I ever do. You've been a great source of knowledge on the warrior forums, you will be missed in game.
     
  18. Taylor

    Taylor Former Stratics CEO (2011-2014)
    Professional VIP Stratics Veteran Supporter Alumni Campaign Benefactor Alumni

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2008
    Messages:
    8,023
    Likes Received:
    1,714
    Same. Sorry to see you go. :<
     
  19. Aibal

    Aibal Slightly Crazed
    Stratics Veteran

    Joined:
    May 14, 2008
    Messages:
    1,292
    Likes Received:
    170
    Galen,

    Perhaps, and yet as others have pointed out above, it was a flawed system that was allowed to continue for three + years until the developers, once again in their infinite wisdom, decided to "fix" it literally overnight. Maybe players shouldn't have depended on it, but they did because the system was in place. It allowed many to go find PvP when it was dead on their own shard, or find action on other shards at different times then their own prime time play hours. It also allowed fairly easy suit building to facilitate playing across multiple shards. Now I can't even maintain enough points on the shards I play to wear level 7 stuff let alone level 10. It's totally screwed up. I'm not leaving yet, as PvP is only a small part of my gameplay. But I am left with at least 11 characters that need new suits, and as a result it will likely be weeks/months before I assimilate all the materials on those shards to re-do those suits.
     
    Tina Small likes this.
  20. weins201

    weins201 Certifiable
    Stratics Veteran

    Joined:
    May 14, 2008
    Messages:
    1,686
    Likes Received:
    266
    What is Truly sad is - if you are the Lynk who conived to get the winterbreeze towers on ATL nothing in them should be allowed to go to you or ANYONE else and should be deleted but alas they will not and the towers will just fall. All the items will be lost or horded away.

    If you are not this char sorry, have fun with whatever you do from now on and good luck.

    TTFN
     
  21. Sevin0oo0

    Sevin0oo0 Guest

    Guess I missed something somewhere? I don't PVP so this may be as stupid as what's happening in Factions.
    the OP said >> Most relied on faction artifacts
    >> the game has become Item Based, and less about skill - said 100 times in multiple threads
    So with items now removed, how is it Not what people wanted?
     
    keel and Xalan Dementia like this.
  22. Risso

    Risso Babbling Loonie
    Stratics Veteran

    Joined:
    May 15, 2008
    Messages:
    2,581
    Likes Received:
    102
    Rather than spend hundreds of millions on real artifacts - which, contrary to popular belief is not the kind of money available to everyone - some people use (or used to) faction artifacts to allow them to make suits and play characters on other shards quickly and cheaply. Now after this points fiasco such a playstyle is no longer possible, as the number of points required for rank and the higher decay rate means that you have to constantly kill other factioneers for points.
    Imagine trying to find an enemy factioneer on any number of quite possibly dead shards and killing them EVERY DAY on three different characters - you can't kill the same player every day either. Bear in mind that they are also trying to kill you too to keep their points. Doesn't sound much fun does it? Sounds like a horrible grind right? And this is just for shards you may play on once a week. I fully understand why the OP is leaving.
     
    Hardy and Sevin0oo0 like this.
  23. Uriah Heep

    Uriah Heep Crazed Zealot
    Stratics Veteran Alumni

    Joined:
    May 26, 2008
    Messages:
    3,834
    Likes Received:
    2,362
    It existed too long, for years! Now thats it's fixed everyone has to start over, and cant play. Had they not depended on the arties, then they wouldnt have been able to play till this point either (competitively)
     
    Tina Small likes this.
  24. Picus at the office

    Picus at the office Certifiable
    Stratics Veteran

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2009
    Messages:
    1,686
    Likes Received:
    583
    It never ceases to amaze me the depth of envy that posters on stratics can have, let alone mods whom have a duty to support the game. Lynk took advantage of a in game system that anyone could have, and he did it well. His insight was shared freely with those that wished to use it and this insight prompted others to share thier collective wisdom thus enhancing the overall game play for everyone. Yet, for all of this, people cannot help but jump on the wagon and say "you dirty person, I dislike your game play because I lacked the energy and effort that you put in place to evolve your accounts to a tier 1 level".

    How on earth can people say things like "Had they not depended on the arties, then they wouldnt have been able to play till this point either (competitively)" when it was these people who really expanded the game and helped to drive new ideas. You think that people like Lynk and myself used the factions arties because we were broke and couldn't make a suit? The correct answer was that the system allowed us to use these items, it was a semi functional system that anyone could use and only due to a lack of effort was it that a limited selection of people did such. Why on earth 70% of the people who reply here didn't make these types of suits is beyond me, I guess some people enjoyed the fail.
     
    Alekslandr, Sevin0oo0 and Tina Small like this.
  25. Cetric

    Cetric Grand Inquisitor
    Stratics Veteran

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2008
    Messages:
    4,110
    Likes Received:
    907

    Sad to see ya go man, was always a pleasure :) come back soon!
     
  26. Gorbs

    Gorbs Sage
    Stratics Veteran

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2009
    Messages:
    633
    Likes Received:
    130
    Sorry to see you go Lynk. I think the bean counters will be surprised just how many accounts are closed because of that simple change. Hopefully someone will at least read the comments you submit when deactivating the accounts.
     
  27. Bob the Merchant

    Bob the Merchant Adventurer

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2012
    Messages:
    96
    Likes Received:
    60
    I do apologize to any of those whom can no longer attain uberness through a system known to be broken for years. It brings tears to my eyes to see people leave who can no longer freely exploit this broken system through the clever use of hidden "features" and bugs. It saddens me that people will no longer stand for not being able to be "faction leet" at almost no actual cost or time involved.

    To the thread author: may your future MMO experience be filled with loopholes to take advantage of, zergs to overwhelm and poop on your fellow player often with, and a general chat system that would even make a sailor blush.
     
  28. Theo_GL

    Theo_GL Grand Poobah
    Stratics Veteran Stratics Legend

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2003
    Messages:
    6,413
    Likes Received:
    686
    Well, you and I have very diff playstyles and rarely did we see eye to eye - but I do respect your passion for the game and your sampire template is one that you took time to post is one I still run today on a couple shards.

    I never did like the 'faction arty' stuff and am not sure why you can't just acquire the arties themselves and have them permenantly. At any rate - best of luck. This game is dying fast by a dev team focusing on all the wrong things and completely out of touch with their user base.

    Diablo III in less than a month everyone!!
     
  29. silent

    silent Lore Master
    Stratics Veteran

    Joined:
    May 12, 2008
    Messages:
    1,082
    Likes Received:
    186
    Sorry to see you go Lynk. TBH aren't artifacts kind of useless now with the implementation of shame loot, imbuing and reforging anyway? There were only a few useful faction arties from what I've seen.
     
  30. Picus at the office

    Picus at the office Certifiable
    Stratics Veteran

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2009
    Messages:
    1,686
    Likes Received:
    583
    Wow. Don't forget that at no point were you not allowed to join the rest of us in factions. There were no hidden features or bugs, all it took was effort and killing a few people to attain rank on any shard. Sorry you couldn't defend yourself and you lost the fight, good luck in your empty game.
     
  31. Ludes

    Ludes Babbling Loonie
    Stratics Veteran Alumni Stratics Legend

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2004
    Messages:
    2,382
    Likes Received:
    648
    Since I haven't done factions since 1999 I have no comment on that subject.

    I'm like Petra.. my equipment makes people laugh.
    But I am sorry to see such a long time player and Stratics member leave.

    Remember you can always do a triumphant return now!
     
  32. Lady Storm

    Lady Storm Crazed Zealot
    Stratics Veteran Stratics Legend

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2006
    Messages:
    3,752
    Likes Received:
    1,566
    Just like that you roll over and give up???
    Boy such a bad arsed factions guy you turned out to be....
    Do what others have done and run away.... dont be the bigger person and go get the equipment you need. There is nothing in this game that cant be gotten... that factions had.
    I am sorry to see such a old and venerated player such as you go... but I wont be coddling you in your self pity on something that you can do something about!
    Petra and the rest of us have had to over the years change play styles due to the Dev's fingers in the pot that messed up something.. why should factions players be any different.
    Grow up and get in there and fight to keep your play.
    I say this as mom who trys to teach her children to work out their problems and solve them all on thier own. To not quit cause that is more easer then working to replace what is lost.
    Your an accomplished player kiddo. You more then most know the game and its challenges.... so use your vast uo knowlage and do something!
    As has been offered you can get help in recovering and pulling up your characters by their boot straps and get back in there... your not hte only one this message is aimed at. The rest of you who are hurting from the recient changes need to do the same... Tell the rest of the slackers and quitters what I said. Let their blood boil at being called cowards but get in here and make the changes and work it out... Quitting is easy.... Making it work is the real challenge.
    I have faith in everyones ability to do it.
    love MOM
     
  33. garillo

    garillo Journeyman

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2011
    Messages:
    151
    Likes Received:
    22
    Sad to see you leaving bud, for the short time I've been back you and Dorinda both have created nothing but fun when around me. I will miss 4v10ing on GL with you. Safe travels, and if you happen to be on Diablo III or Steam, Garillo or garillo86 is my player tag where ever. Hopefully we will be able to team up in the future, whether it be UO or another title.
     
  34. Bob the Merchant

    Bob the Merchant Adventurer

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2012
    Messages:
    96
    Likes Received:
    60
    Perhaps you assume too much.

    I did play factions but I was smart enough to build my suits to not require the items.

    Hidden bugs or features? The entirety of the faction system was bugged. How?
    1) Rank 10 was designated for the TOP factioner.
    2) Players were not supposed to be able to join multiple factions on one account for the purpose of farming points.
    3) The intention of factions was never designed to make end game trammies, it was a fel activity.
    4) Points were not intended to go into the billions, players exploited the system.

    Couldn't defend myself? again, you assume too much.

    All factions did was give people a reason to gang up on people they couldn't kill on their own.
     
    Daelomin, keel, Hannes Erich and 2 others like this.
  35. Willard

    Willard Seasoned Veteran
    Stratics Veteran Stratics Legend

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2004
    Messages:
    397
    Likes Received:
    22
    Happy travels...have enjoyed reading your posts and using your ideas. I too just closed 2 accounts one of them is almost 15 years old the other is 13+. I guess it was a good run, but time to move on. I have stored all my stuff in banks, packs and a house that I will maintain on my last active account.
    Good luck:)
     
  36. Picus at the office

    Picus at the office Certifiable
    Stratics Veteran

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2009
    Messages:
    1,686
    Likes Received:
    583
    The only people I ever saw in factions who did not use the artifacts were the same people who would leave factions after 3 days due to near constant stat loss, not saying this was Bob but that was what I saw.

    Rank 10 was for the top 10% of the player base, if it was large than a large amount of people where rank 10.
    The fix for multi faction'd accounts went in along time back, not a issue.
    Factions arties should have dropped when you left fel, that or you should have stayed orange.
    I believe that the point race was actually started from one person on chessy? attempting to corner the market which ended in a fail for all of us.

    In theory factions did not give people a reason to gang up to kill others they couldn't on there own. I assume you ment that people joined factions to kill other players in factions otherwise it is the same Red vs Blue fight that has been going on for ages. If you got killed in factions from a gang and you ended up in stat this was your own fault, you joined and lost so deal with the short break from the action.
     
  37. SlobberKnocker

    SlobberKnocker Slightly Crazed

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2012
    Messages:
    1,388
    Likes Received:
    446
    i dont see how lynk gets flamed here. the faction arties could be had by anyone that wanted. the uo community has thinned out greatly and arties allowed for guys to hit multiple shards in looking for fights. my problem with the point wipe is that the dev's did nothing to fundamentally change factions mechanics. just made it harder to keep rank. there still remains no reason to fight for towns. you can still trick your char into two facitons on one account. ur still required to defend a town for 10 HOURS!!! for the benefit of placing a horse breeder or bottle memrchant pfft. so i.e. no fix or new content added unless you consider grinding to be new content.

    i play one account. it took me damn near 3 weeks to re make my suits on one shard. i couldnt fathom how long it would take on 3 accounts across multiple shards. of course those of you who are less industrious will declare good riddance, and are happy now that you can farm balhae unmolested for pixels, however this was a guy that PAID FOR 3 accounts. A guy who probably made liberal use of shard transfer tokens to move gear and such back and forth.

    i had to laugh at the poster who was happy cause now lynk cant kill him on his dead shard anymore. well thats just the point. lynk killed you in fel. last i checked pvp is allowed in fel. so you chose to play a dead shard in the hopes you wouldnt be bothered.

    lastly i bid you farewell lynk. i never played in a guild with you but your posts on the forums in regards to suit builds and pvp
    tactics are really unmatched. you will be missed.
     
    Phangs_of_Phage and Flutter like this.
  38. G.v.P

    G.v.P Stratics Legend
    Stratics Veteran Stratics Legend

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2004
    Messages:
    9,644
    Likes Received:
    831
    Had fun PvPing your tribes on Ches back when I was more involved in [email protected]/X, and here on Strats you've been one of the few PvP stat-heads that spent time collecting data on Test Center for others to use. I appreciated that.
     
  39. Lady Storm

    Lady Storm Crazed Zealot
    Stratics Veteran Stratics Legend

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2006
    Messages:
    3,752
    Likes Received:
    1,566
    Bravo!!! Bob the Merchant

    Lynk, Willard and the rest of you sitting there and contemplating quitting. Answer me this... if you spent 15 years of your life playing uo through all the good and bad the various dev teams have flung at us all why now? I mean what was so bad that out did the dev's own handywork over the years of oain and suffering they inflicted on us all?
    We have lived through give us 1 item we asked for and take away 4 we were using bit....
    The taking away of our rights on houseing and the trickery to get more for less with the 1 house limit, not just once but twice... (first was 1 house per shard,2nd was 1 per account)
    The total dropping of a working system (Chaos & Order) for a broken from the get go system of Factions... to this day its so broken players are want to jump ship for
    So many tiny things the game dev's have tossed at us and yet we bounced back. To the dev's surprise i bet. Now the oldest of us have decided to play the i quit card.
    I can see if RL has made game play not a viable option for spare time... money and the ecconomy have dented many familys and I for one am not going ot blame players for leaving due to this as RL is top priority and game dead last. Pack up your goodies on your chars and return when you can.. We all understand this as a fact of the recient times and support your going. But to say I quit cause of something not of this life changing is quite frankly - chicken dodo.
    When you started uo did you expect Factions to be there?? no
    When you busted your knuckles killing or mining or any of the gathering you did to bring you to the brink of what you are today in game?? I dont think so.
    To have not just hundreds of k in the bank but millions and even some having billions... in a pigs eye you did.... First year with 10k in the bank you were wealthy!
    Those of us who were born in to UO back 13 to 15 years ago lived in a world in game of feluccian 24/7/365. Death was at every corner. We survived that world and made something of it..... now you quit cause of a few changes ????? Well put the blame on the right place.. you have changed as well as the game. 15 years is a long time. I have seen kids grow up and are now in high school! Some frineds have gone totaly grey ! Heck we all get older and minds change... time changes. Take a break, go smell the flowers and fish for real, visit your family and get to know your kids.... When your ready to sit down again UO will be here... I cant guarantee how long you will need to decompress but take your time. We be here...
     
    Surgeries and Lord Frodo like this.
  40. Flutter

    Flutter Always Present
    Stratics Veteran Alumni Stratics Legend

    Joined:
    May 12, 2004
    Messages:
    21,553
    Likes Received:
    3,840
    Sevin, I think the problem is that the game is still item based. They just took away the items, not the system that requires them.
     
    keel likes this.
  41. Rusko

    Rusko Guest

    How do you see a flawed system stay the way it is for 3 years... then say it was fixed "Overnight"... There are thousands of things wrong... they have a list... they follow this list... (I agree they take timeouts more than they should from said list to add pixel crack upon pixel crack) but either way....

    If you happen to get free cable at your house, and you don't question it, and they don't notice for 3 years... when they cut the cable off after realizing you have been MILKING THE SYSTEM for this long... Then what? You gonna call that cable company and complain?

    That's all I see here... ADAPT and OVERCOME... or quit...
     
  42. Sevin0oo0

    Sevin0oo0 Guest

    Thanks Flutter, you speak good PVP and are a mob killer, so I'll ask... Would a PVM equiv be like removing soulseeker, conjurer's, etc, unless you're maxed out in several grindy virtues? because that's how I'm getting it.
     
  43. Driven Insane

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2012
    Messages:
    581
    Likes Received:
    228
    I'll avoid commenting to much on the stupidity of Factions and first FORCING everyone to join a boring/broken system in order to get the strongest items in the game and then an idiotic "fix" 3 years later that actually fixed nothing and I'll just say this....

    He'll be back, along with most of the rest of the people threatening to quit over this change.

    Drama queens.
     
  44. SlobberKnocker

    SlobberKnocker Slightly Crazed

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2012
    Messages:
    1,388
    Likes Received:
    446
    the outrage over the loss of say rank 7 and higher faction items would have been greatly lessened if it was accompanied with a new faction system that made sense and was fun to play or desireable to play. such a system overhaul should have been done with the intent that it foster greater participation. so you would get a reason to want to use those artifacts and a reason to play in factions if it was put out in an engaging fashion.

    the dev's didnt do this. they just cut the points and left the same hopelessly broken system in place. this is the main issue. a good pvpr could kill most in this game running gm chars with throw away gear.

    the fact that the faction item loss really screwed over mages is the final kick in the sack as pvprs have the most respect for those in this game that understand the strategy of a caster and play a mage proficiently.

    bottom line is the dev's really slipped a big turd in the pockets of the player base.
     
  45. Rusko

    Rusko Guest

    lol.... AWWWWWWW

    the Dev's took your beloved EASY BUTTON away...

    That's all I hear you saying....
     
  46. Rusko

    Rusko Guest

    Maybe you should gain a better understanding of the strategy for equipping your beloved caster with a suit that doesn't rely on a BUG or FLAW in the system... that's all I'm saying...
     
  47. SlobberKnocker

    SlobberKnocker Slightly Crazed

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2012
    Messages:
    1,388
    Likes Received:
    446
    pretty shortsighted view on your part my friend, but it is an opinion your entitled too.

    i have a very good understanding of the crafting mechanics having built suits for nearly everyone in my guild at some point. tyvm sir.
     
  48. Mirt

    Mirt Certifiable
    Stratics Veteran

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2009
    Messages:
    1,726
    Likes Received:
    286
    Maybe its time for some sort of compromise. Have trammel spawns drop power scrolls at the same level that they do in fel. Make the Harrower available in trammel and then just have faction artifacts in fel. Nobody has to do anything they don't want to do, nobody is forced to play in another style of play. This way if you want super gear for pvp you have it. You want scrolls and don't want to compete with factioners in OPed gear you have it. This way everyone gets what they want and nobody is forced to do anything. I don't think people will go for this idea but at least it balances everything and might provide a bit of a choice if we do all get behind it then we can bring it to the devs.
     
  49. LordDrago

    LordDrago Certifiable
    Stratics Veteran

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2004
    Messages:
    1,500
    Likes Received:
    393
    I agree that nobody will go for this idea. :) Although I have no problem with it.

    I still half think that the Devs concentrated on "fixing" the faction points as a direct result of many complaints over "trammies" using faction artifacts, and factioneers upset and complaining over it. Of course, like many things (the recent beast suit nerf being another recent overstepping "fix"), the Devs "overcompensated" their "fix" causing additional issues and coimplaints.
     
    Mirt likes this.
  50. SlobberKnocker

    SlobberKnocker Slightly Crazed

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2012
    Messages:
    1,388
    Likes Received:
    446
    mirt.

    at least you propose a plan that is open for debate. it is my point that the dev's cut the points but left the bugged or flawed system intact. to use rusko's words.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.