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[Selling] An Ancient Golden Scepter For Sale

Discussion in 'UO Rares Collector' started by xxstaticxx, Oct 17, 2008.

  1. xxstaticxx

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    Found this on one of my old LS chars curious of its worth.

    its a Golden hued scepter with no mods, LS event item. I think roughly 10 or so exist and based on information from the duped sticky it has not been duped.


    Based on recent information and the Single PC I got I'm going to advertise this item for sale.

    Asking price is 200m OBO. Please reply here or PM me, Thank You All.
     
  2. Xel Naga

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    It also will play a sound if you double click it :>

    Sold one long ago but i dont recall how much :(
     
  3. xxstaticxx

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    Wow sweet lol did not know that it made sounds tyvm!

    Doesn't anyone have a PC on this item? :(

    I used to come here and see tons of posting regarding PC's all of which being answered by DVI, Hemi, Xel, Treyster, Manti etc but as of late im not seeing very many ppl give PC's nor very accurate ones even when they are given. Has UO died that much?
     
  4. DevilsOwn

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    hesitation is due to the rampant duping, I would imagine
     
  5. Xel Naga

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    Yep, at this point I just came back from having quit for a year being fed up with EA's half-assed job of keeping UO clean of cheats and dupes, or rather, the lack there of.

    The price checks that I would be able to give are those prices from before all this massive duping and before the gold plummeted to low $ values. And way before the fact that dupers now control both the rares market and gold selling market now that stratics decided to ban the advertisement for gold sales here thus eliminating any competition to the already well known duper websites.
     
  6. xxstaticxx

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    Ok, but if this item wasn't duped (basing that on the fact that it's not in the duped list) which of course doesn't mean it's not duped but if it is, it isn't widely known about. Then the old PC for it would still apply in the sense that if an item was worth 100m back then and gold was going for $2 per then a 100m item would be worth $200 so in today's pricing with gold around .75 - $1 per I could guesstimate that a 100m item is worth around $75 - $100 correct?

    I know were not allowed to talk about virtual sales here but this is all just hypothetical of course so it shouldn't count right? I just want to figure out the price of my item so I can post it for sale (for gold of course).
     
  7. Tomas_Bryce

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    If it was not duped then it would be worth around 200-300M in today's market. However, I have a nagging feeling that it is one of the items that slipped past me.
     
  8. xxstaticxx

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    I appreciate the PC but I believe your constant accusations of items being duped without any proof is one of the main things hurting this market atm. I've talked with several people and even messaged fencers trying to find out if anyone else can get this item and I haven't had any luck. So based on all the information I've accumulated I'm inclined to believe that this item is in fact NOT duped.

    If I'm in fact wrong then I would appreciate some type of proof and I will then lower my asking price to the appropriate level because I would much rather Not own any dupes.
     
  9. Xel Naga

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    I would probably have to doubt that items is duped simply because the desirability and demand for it is rather low. The fact that it's normal hued, has no mods, is not visually unique, and not distinguishable from any normal golden scepter probably deemed it as not worth the time to dupe by most dupers when their valuable duping slots and time could be put towards fast selling artifacts, modded event items, shrouds, specially hued items, and other such trinkets that can be fenced quickly.

    While this duping accusations is surely at an all time high, it's not without merit. Almost everything has been duped whether people want to believe it or not and as always, unless you personally were issued a one of a kind item by a GM/EM on only one unique shard then chances are someone somewhere along the line duped, loaned it to a duper for profit and a spare copy, or sold it to a duper for good money before you got your hands on it thinking it was still unique.

    I mean look at nails' collection. For all we know since only he owned those items he could have lent access to dupers when he was desperate for cash to make copies of his items for $$$ down payment and a copy of everything to keep for himself in private storage as to not lose the work he's spent collecting over the years. Not to say that's what happened, but if "ring" claims he didn't do it and paul claims he bought the "unique" items from nails then it would lead one to think that nails was somehow involved in the big picture.

    But -nothing- is safe from duping. Real life profits from this game have made this game highly profitable to partake in illegal actions if you were not smart enough to do it legit (which is a huge majority of the playerbase). Whether it was capitalizing in selling changeling items like a major collector on LS did, selling out and lending your entire collection to dupers like marion did (not an accusation, simply self incriminating apology you can find on TS), or simply hopping on the bandwagon stashing up tons of glacial and ethy items to sell for mark-up value at a later date, lots of people are at fault.

    Even nowadays the once respected rares community is in shambles because so many of us are now desensitized by the ongoing duping and the lack of action by EA to stop it. Many people are simply just not caring if something is duped or not anymore, there's no distinguishable difference between them, it now can't be proven, and one can simply claim they own one of the legit ones and no one would be able to dispute it.

    I for one simply just won't be collecting rares anymore due to the fact that this used to be the only thing in the game I could be proud of being a part of. Collecting the rarest and most unique gear to wear was my hobby, wheeling and dealing to afford the next nicest thing on my -want- list without having to worry about if there's 500 copies of it in a bag somewhere. Rare collecting is dead for the legit players and is now the second best profit margin market for dupers coming right behind Runics. People just don't give a crap anymore who they buy their items from and if it's legit or not, they want it and they want it cheap. Grats dupers, you win and the rares community does nothing to stop it but instead, helps fuel your greed and income.

    I have no idea where this post started and ended but my rants against dupers ruining my only hobby in the game is getting more and more lengthy. I don't even know why I bothered reactivating, I figured the vine cord deletion was some glimmer of hope for the game but apparently that's not even scratching the surface of how bad the duping has gotten and I'm only just now seeing how ******** and out of control the situation is.
     
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    Extremely well said. I just wish EA cared enough, I wish we could get some type of conclusive reply by an EA staff member or something, I wish for alot of things but I never see any action and unfortunately its for that main reason that alot of our big time players are leaving, Moving on to bigger and better things. :(
     
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    Still for sale. Asking price is 200m OBO, that's Or Best Offer ppl. Toss me some offers here we'll see what we can work out :).
     
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    Current Offer: 120m
     
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    Pretty sure this item could be good for pvp btw, I believe it uses wrestling in place of mace fighting which means you can quick swap from your book to get a mortal blow off... with imbuing coming along you could make a sweet wrestler weapon ;o
     
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    As I have stated before, just because its not on the dupping list, doesnt mean the dupper don't have it in their posessions and can dupe it if they wish to. Only things that are rare are the unique items that are confirmed on the thread on top or items in such low quantities that every piece is accounted for.
     
  15. Tomas_Bryce

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    Really? And here I thought that the market was hurting by all the dupes being flooded by greedy people paying for their bills by cheating in a game.

    And my "accusation" is not without proof. This item was for sale by a very well-known duper/fencer for 125M only few weeks ago. It was also being sold by another well-known duper/fencer a not so long ago before that. I am also pretty sure it was on my old dupe list before Stratics crashed. So now it is added again. Sorry, but I am sure you will still fetch more than you paid for it considering you found it on an old character.

    Btw, nice to see a new face posting here. I don't think I have ever heard of you. Which shard might you be from? Must be LS, eh.
     
  16. xxstaticxx

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    I find it a bit odd that you can find this item for sale else where and I can't. I have talked to several of the well-known duper/fencer's I'm sure your talking about yet not one of them has this item for sale. If your going to keep a duped item thread active your going to need to start posting some pics or some other type of "Proof" because I'm not trying to be rude here but your word just isn't good enough for this situation, you can simply say "Hey i seen so n so selling that item" And Bam it's on the duped list. I can't prove this item is duped and believe you me I'm certainly trying to view all angles here so I can't really understand how you can just up and put it on the duped list without even refuting me.

    I don't really think we can post names here or else I'd post who all I've asked so me and you could compare notes because I'd certainly like to see how your able to come to your conclusions.

    I'm originally from Oceania btw, I PvM quite alot and I've attended many event's in the past there's really no telling what's all on my account, The only reason I'm wanting to sell them is so I can buy more "Unique" type item's to keep them out of duper's hand's. I have a few more that I might be posting soon since this one is sold. "Battle Orders" and "Hatchet Thrower - Finalist" are 2 other items I've found so far neither of which are on the duped list i believe.


    I hope that clears a few things up and I didn't mean to start a ruckus but for the sake of the rares community I think we all deserve a bit more proof before you go posting things on the duped list, No offense of course.

    The item in question in this thread is sold btw to Thor VII of Europa for 125m.
     
  17. Tomas_Bryce

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    It sounds like your accounts are like an oyster. Never know what one may find in them. Quite amazing.

    Congrats on the sale. I hope it helps in your quest to find more unique items.