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An idea about summons

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Zosimus, Nov 4, 2011.

  1. Zosimus

    Zosimus Grand Inquisitor
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    Jul 3, 2004
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    Since the bug on summons was taken care of and Ahu posts gave me an idea I would like to throw out some thoughts on them.

    When Ahu made the comment in another thread how mages just throw EV's and invis and basically rinse and repeat I came up with these ideas.

    Here are the summons and EV's just for the skill magery. Since EV's and blade spirits cant be controlled they are really not a summon.

    - Summon Air Elemental
    - Summon Earth Elemental
    - Summon Fire Elemental
    - Summon Water Elemental
    - Summon Daemon
    - Energy Vortex
    - Blade spirits

    With the changes in the dungeon shame and "possible future changes" in others dungeons, in my opinion they should make certain levels of dungeons have more uses for summons then just casting EV's.

    Like in Modain Legacy if I recall a certain boss( sorry the name has slipped my mind) you cant cast EV's on him. So why don't the devs use that system and make certain new creatures invunerable to certain summons but are weak from other summons.

    I will just make up some crazy example.

    The devs create a new creature in deceit and the air elemental and EV's cant damage them but can also replenish their health if casted. The caster though can use earth elemental spell and fire elemental spell which the mob is weaker to and causes more damage.

    Just basic ideas that came to my head and I only used magery spells as an example. Kind of mixes things up a bit. Plus maybe make blade spirits useable again on certain new monsters in dungeons or the lands.
  2. Felonious Monk

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    Jul 8, 2006
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    How about a spawned fire ellie either eats a fire summons and gets stronger or sends it back to you to kill you with a message, "fire? I am made of this!" The line is a ripoff from Constantine.
    Possibly the same treatment from other ellies of a like kind.
  3. Uvtha

    Uvtha Grand Poobah
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    May 24, 2008
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    I think it would be kinda cool if the summons gave you bonuses like the necro summons... but magery already has so much great stuff.
  4. LadyNico

    LadyNico Always Present
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    May 13, 2003
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    I love the idea, but I can also see it being used very, very effectively as a tool for griefing.

    Just as an example, consider the fun folks had with those hell hounds on steroids before they were removed.

    Like I said, love the idea - can just see it being used for griefing.
  5. Raptor85

    Raptor85 Certifiable
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    Jul 23, 2007
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    personally i just think they should make it so that if you invis/stealth your summon "loses connection" to you and dispels. (same with pets, they should start losing loyalty rapidly if they cant see you). Especially now with all the different loot types that fall straight to pack there's far too much "set & forget" farming.

    for magery also, would be nice if the other summons were worth using, ev's are just so much more powerful than the rest of them (now, if you could summon 2 fire eles or water eles that would actually work pretty well, but right now only air eles and earth eles you can, and they're basicly useless for everything but training resist or fighting dreadhorn). Right now the only real uses are earth eles against dreadhorn and a summoned daemon is fairly good at killing fire daemons, if you keep it healed. Everything else even in cases where they work "ok" are always outclassed by a pair of EV's.