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Another Lost Ship / Cause?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Doubleplay, Jun 10, 2011.

  1. Doubleplay

    Doubleplay Lore Keeper
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    Lost my ship again today. These are the things I noticed. Perhaps the cause can be determined eventually if we give enough information.

    I left my ship at Trinsic, near docks two days ago. This AM tried to recall to it. The rune said unknown owner, unknown location. I went to Trinsic, and there it was, just where I left it. I mouse-over on the pilot and the ship reported that it was in new condition and pristine. This was unusual because I had not refreshed it in two days. I got on the ship, remarked my rune. The rune now identified the ship properly, but said Felluca even though the rune did not have the normal Felluca color. The rune had a Malas color. I got off the ship and recalled off the rune to the ship. The rune now was labeled with Trammel and looked normal. I went to my bank to check the other rune. It was labeled unknown player, unknown location. The marking and use of the resultant rune went the same as the first.

    I think that it is possible that the ships are lost when someone else passes by and double clicks on the pilot, thus refreshing the boat. Somehow this may confuse the ownership tracking. I am a loner, have one account, and never see anyone while playing. Thus I have not tested this theory yet. Can someone check it out?
     
  2. Frarc

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    Do not remark the rune before you have drydocked the ship. Or the problem will return. Drydock the ship first.
     
  3. Yalp

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    Mine was parked way out to sea where I doubt anyone would have passed it to click the pilot. Since I knew what approximate line it was on, I grabbed another boat and sailed/tracked until I found it.
     
  4. Phoenix_Mythic

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    If your ship is experiencing this issue, then you MUST drydock it and then launch it again. You will receive a new pair of runes for it, and thereafter any additional runes you mark for it will not become broken.

    If you do not drydock and relaunch the ship, any new runes you mark for the ship will lose their link to the ship during the next maintenance, and the problem will continue.

    Newly placed ships and ships placed from drydock will no longer experience this issue!
     
  5. gunneroforgin

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    I had problems with my ship runes today (AGAIN) so, as per your plan, I dry docked my ship and I got one new rune in my backpack :D and the bank rune was unchanged( did not get a new rune in my bank box.) :thumbdown:I had to remark it so it would work again. I don't beleive there is a fix that has been done for this problem and it seriously needs fixing. Something is broken somewhere.
     
  6. Cear Dallben Dragon

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    My ship rune gave out on me again today.
    Hasn't moved in weeks. Bummer.
     
  7. Absolutely NOT true.
    I had this issue, gm came to help.
    I dry docked my boat FOUR TIMES and I did NOT get a rune, have a rune, have one in the bank, in any way, shape, form or fashion.
    I had to log a mage, grab a blank rune and mark it on the boat, of course, AFTER emptying the hold of TONS of fishies etc, for the SECOND time this junk has happened to me.
    I now have ZERO faith in the system, so the EMPTY boat sits a half screen from my abodes so that when, and I do mean when not if, it happens again, I will know where the boat is. Yeah, im done using it as evidently I cant leave it anywhere unless I get a gm to fetch it for me!!
    Stop adding more useless crap to this game and fix at least a few thousand of the bugs before anything else please!!!
    For cripes sake!!
    PS.......what the bleepin bleep did ya'll do to Stealing skill now???
     
  8. Beastmaster

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    QFT!
     
  9. aoLOLita

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    ***How do I drydock a boat that has 3 Quest chests in hold - do I lose these high lvl quests and the resultant loyalty that took far too many months to build ???

    Or do the quest chest reappear after drydock?
     
  10. Beastmaster

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    You lose the orders and the loyalty. If there are fish in the crates, you get those.
     
  11. aoLOLita

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    Fortunately GM Erthim responded to my Help request in a speedy manner and fixed the problem:)
     
  12. Doubleplay

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    I guess it's established fact that you lose your orders when dry docking. However, before you dry dock, and after you find your ship, is your reputation untarnished? I mean if you are an unknown owner, how can you have a reputation? Perhaps it is a moot point that dry docking and replacing your ship causes you to lose reputation when you might have lost it already.
     
  13. Cear Dallben Dragon

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    Thats odd, GM **** came very fast but helped me in no way at all.
     
  14. Frarc

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    You do not loose reputation to drydock a ship. You loose it when canceling the quests.
     
  15. Basara

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    when you're having the "bad ship rune" problem, you should be able to still deliver them. THEN, once you deliver them (and do NOT get back new quests), drydock.

    If the fishmonger doesn't recognize your ship even though it's at the dock, you can launch another ship as a temporary fix, and because the monger recognizes you have a ship AND the quest, you can deliver. Just don't get a new quest, and drydock the ships when done sailing around and repeating this until your hold is empty of quests.
     
  16. Sevin0oo0

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    just curious, and only a thought... how many different items are required to be in the hold when doing quests? If it wasn't very many, say less than 25 (or Only fish/quest related items), perhaps they could treat the boat like a Bank, letting you dry dock w/ items in the hold - then relaunch (getting new runes) later. The hitch, must be docked before server down, or boat poofs.
     
  17. Really?
    Fixed?
    Did you dry dock it...cause they are saying if you didnt it WILL happen again...and well...GM's cannot dry dock your boat.

    GM came to help me fetch it by teleporting me onto it, (and did a magnificent job of that...KUDOS) but then the dreaded "you must dry dock or it will happen again after server maintenance" word from GM.
    I hope you had better luck than I did....my boat is now an anchor as far as Im concerned!!
     
  18. Really?
    You mean after / if the GM can locate the stupid boat and park your toon back onto it cause the rune dont work.
     
  19. Doubleplay

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    Well, it has been three server maintenance cycles since I remarked my runes without dry docking my boat. So far the remarked runes are working properly. Apparently you do not lose your boat on every server maintenance cycle after losing your boat and remarking. Keeping fingers crossed for the future.
     
  20. Basara

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    Yep...

    All the quest system cares is that

    1. You have a full-sized (HS or classic) boat in the water on the same subserver.
    2. Your quest crate is on the same subserver.

    Neither have to be even near the docks - you can have your ship parked at the rocks sticking out of the water several screens off Trinsic, and still be able to pick up/deliver to Trinsic, Jhelom & Skara, for example. But, for this, you'd probably want to at least come to shore in your target cities.


    If you have your ship in the correct city (or at least on the same subserver), try delivering the finished quest. If it says your ship isn;t close enough, then the game isn't recognizing your ship.

    IF the game isn't recognizing your ship, then it means that you can launch another classic or HS ship. Doing so temporarily, provided the bugged ship is on the same subserver as the new ship and the fishmonger, will allow the quest to complete. Retrieve and drydock the second ship, board the bugged one, and sail to your next destination, and repeat.

    Once you have all your quests delivered and not gotten any replacements, you can then empty your ship and dry-dock it. (Note: only abandoning quests after they put a crate in your hold effect your reputation - just saying no, and not getting a quest in the first place, does not)
     
  21. Spellbound

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    Borked again today... 10 out of 14 ships couldn't be located. Yes they have been dry-docked and replaced as Phoenix addressed. Also UO Carto wasn't working for me either. It only shows the default location.
     
  22. Beastmaster

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    UO Cartographer is failing because UOA needs an update.