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Any succesful gargolyes?

Discussion in 'UO Stygian Abyss' started by JamezC, Jan 26, 2010.

  1. JamezC

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    I Cant seem to find any threads about somebody enjoying the gargoyle race. And i play on Catskills and have only seen 5 in the last two weeks.

    My questions is has anyone found a good fun template to use with them?
    Besides crafting

    I'd love to make one and try them out but I'm afraid I'll be disappointed

    Let me know
    Thank you

    - James
     
  2. I have two PvM'ers that I play a lot. I'll show their goal templates, though they aren't there yet. (too many characters!) The one I've spending the most time with lately is a Mystic-Mage:

    120: Magery, Mysticism
    120: Eval Int, Imbuing
    120: Meditation, Wrestling

    Cleansing Winds is one of my favorite spells now (heal with a good chance of also curing and removing curse!?! come on!!) If I were to start him over, I'd probably take 100 Anatomy instead of the 120 wrestling. The damage done by Animated Weapon is based on your Tactics and Anatomy, not Eval Int or Imbuing. The template still offers Blade Spirits, though. As I understand it, AW is harder to dispel.

    The other is a Thrower-Peacemaker:

    120: Throwing, Music, Peacemaking
    100: Tactics, Meditation, Resist
    60: Chivalry
    (some skills boosted with jewelry. may drop resist though)

    Peacemaking complements Throwing particularly well. It allows you to achieve the optimal throwing distance for a large percentage of the time.
     
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    mine is
    mystic,magery,eval,med,spell-weave,imbuing,

    the last skill is either
    inscription,resist spells,fishing
    depending on what I want to do!
    most skills are at or as near as I can afford to 120
     
  4. Frarc

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    I have one with:

    120 Mysticisme
    120 Eval Int
    120 Imbuing
    120 resist
    120 Meditation
    120 Focus
     
  5. JamezC

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    What do you fight with that? And i thought focus was a joke if you had Med and decent stam. Wouldn't it be better to replace that with Magery?
     
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    I fight with Mysticisme spells . They strong enough to kill stuff. And focus + Meditation makes it that i not fast run out of mana. :)
     
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    you dont find the mysticism spells to be limiting? And how to you get around?

    I"m sorry if my questions are bothering you templates just fascinate me

    Thank you
    - James
     
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    Sleep spell + Rising Colussus + Spell Plague + Bombard is very nice combo. :)



    Nobody bothering me with questions. :)
     
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    With enough mana that could work.

    But how do you get around?

    And what types of things do you hunt?

    Thanks
    - James
     
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    Anything realy. Titans ,Cyclopses and Daemons i hunt if i want to make gold.



    With imbuing you can make about the perfect suit to go along with your characters. What you lack in skills or stats you can always add extra on your armor/jewelry. :)
     
  11. Llwyd

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    Without magery, what do you do for transportation?
     
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    Recall spells inside runebooks. :)
     
  13. This is the same question as some people ask how to open theit car, if the battery of their remote keyless entry is empty.. MANY dont use the key as key^^.


    without magery chiv or even recallscrolls.. use pets, or your feet! :rant2:
     
  14. JamezC

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    I do understand what you are saying, but do honestly run everywhere? I enjoy seeing some of the artwork i do , and i appreciate a healthy run in game to let me appreciate how big the game is, but what if you go an area thats 300-400 screens away from a bank, and you need to bank your gold? Or what if you die?

    Running there, or riding, is just illogical
     
  15. Rainfo X

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    So that mysticism healing thing is good enough for all your healing?
     
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    Works fine for me. Cleansing winds spell, Heals,cure and uncurse.
     
  17. John-boy

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    Macer with imbuing. The smith hammer is usable by gargoyles as a weapon. Most likely as it is needed to be held to craft, but I am hoarding smith hammers with slayer qualities. Also discovered an artifact 11 crook that my gargoyle can hold (just got it have not tried to wack anything)

    Anatomy 100
    Healing 100
    Mace 100
    Tactics 100
    Parry 100
    Resist Magic 100
    Imbuing 120

    Letting Focus run wild as the others progress, but counting on equipment to make up for the lack of focus towards the end. A macing 120 scroll and jewelery to fill it.

    Have tried about 10 different templates, this one working the best so far.
     
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    I'm trying to come up with a garg mage/mystic for PvM. Right now, I'm thinking:

    120 Mage
    120 Med
    120 Eval
    120 Focus
    120 Mystic
    120 Wrestle

    Anyone tried this or recommend something different?
     
  19. Syrus, my mage-mystic has almost that same template goal. The one difference is Imbuing instead of Focus. It is working very well for me.

    At some point he may transfer the Imbuing to my carpenter, so the carpenter will be able to build soul forges (the one thing he can't make now). In that event, my mage-mystic will go 120 Focus, just like you show.
     
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    Awesome. Thanks very much for this feedback.

    I made this toon on TC1 and enjoyed him. I was concerned that I might have mana problems without necro/ss (wraith form), but with 120 med and 120 focus, I was fine.
     
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    I've never actually considered running med and focus is it worth having both as appose to having another skill? such as spellweaving? Its powerful enough to try and squeeze in there and couldn't hurt. With med and mana regen on your stuff wouldn't that be enough mana?
     
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    That could be, James. I am used to playing a necro/mage/weaver and rely heavily on wraith form. I find that, even with 120 meditation, 40 lmc, and 8 mr, I do not regenerate mana quickly enough to avoid using wraith form, especially when it comes to peerless encounters. Because my current mystic template does not give me the option of wraith form, I am trying to compensate.

    Perhaps my mana paranoia is showing. :)
     
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    Lets both not forget that Focus is also one of the skills Mystisism relies on for power to the spells, so its usefull either way, switching for weaving would sort of leave you a bit depowered with the mystic, or any skill other than imbuing for that matter :p
     
  24. JamezC

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    Well i guess i was suggesting dropping med then?

    Still not sure if with lmc and mana regen it would be enough mana without med though, and to replace med with spellweaving, i think the biggest mana user.

    Not sure, would have to try it out but i really dislike the test center

    Any thoughts?

    Thank you
    - James
     
  25. Nyses

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    I run a Gargoyle Tamer/Necro very succesfully. Since I always have a greater dragon with me anyway, Gargoyle seemed the way to go. I am usually in Wraith form and withering at spawns, or in Garg form flying to places, or Lich form Ghealing the Drag,pounding on whatever.
     
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    I just created a Garg Mystic/Archer/Pally and I love her. Shooting the crap out of stuff from behind a Rising Colossus is awesome!
     
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    I didnt think Garg's could use bows?
     
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    Archery doesn't seem to be in the list of skills you can select from when you make a new gargoyle character. Gargoyles also do not seem to be able to equip a bow. (When a gargoyle character tries to equip a bow, you get the message, "Gargoyles can't wear this.")

    On Test Center, you can use the "set" command to give a gargoyle Archery skill and I imagine you can probably soulstone the skill to a gargoyle too. Just doesn't seem that you can actually use the skill unless someone's figured out a way to use an unequipped bow.
     
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    QFT. Sounds fishy. :gun:
     
  30. JamezC

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    Well i think it was a mistake maybe kinney42 has a character like that that is human or elf and just was excited to share and put garg by mistake? I'd buy that.

    Either way..

    - james
     
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    Yeah i totally screwed the pooch on that one.
    meant to say she was an elf mystic/pally.
    ugh it's been a long week.
     
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    Thought so! lol
    Its all good
     
  33. Yalp

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    I have a Gargoyle Mystic Mage which I am very much enjoying.. pvm, pvp i am enjoying it all.. I do have a list of pet peeves for the garg.. and I'm still pushing the devs to make this race more on par with humans/elves.
     
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    I believe the gargs may be getting a change to there racial bonuses! if i am remembering correctly it was talked about in HOC !
     
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    im using a garg with this template :

    120 focus (due to change in mysticism)
    120 peace (provo and disco in soulstone as well)
    120 music
    115 magery
    115 eval
    115 mysticism
    50 med

    Obviusly im using imbued equipt with imbued skills, but im testing this template, and everyday i play with it, i fall in love a bit more. With disco, can almost kill all i want alone (colossus roolz the world!!) and with 50 med, 120 focus and the 10 mr from equipt is diff to run out mana.
     
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    Wammpy Gargoyal: (Wraith Form)

    Spirit Speak: 100
    Fencing: 120
    Tactics: 115
    Anatomy: 115
    Parry: 100
    Bushido: 110
    Chivalry: 65
    Necro: 40
    HP: 140 Stam:80 Mana: 82

    Note: You will need skill bonus jewelry obviously.
    Choice weapon: Life Syphon (100%LL, 30%HH, 10HPI, 25SSI, 50DI, Blood Drinker) Only need 30 stam to swing 1.25 (Stats: 125str, 75dex, 50int)
    I think this temp is fun, and works well on lots of boss type creatures.
    I may tweak it a little later. Maybe better Armor will come out for the poor gargoyals in the future.