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anybody did osiredon recently?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Eaerendil, Feb 4, 2013.

  1. Eaerendil

    Eaerendil Professional Mall Santa and Legendary Piglet
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    Killed him 3 times after the last patch and we got 3 drops. Incredibly lucky oder did they change the drop rate?
     
  2. Gilmour

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    Yea was quite amazing.. never had so many drops in total until that day i think ;)
     
  3. Cerwin Vega

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    We killed him on Atl 2 times before patch and got nothing... I hope the guy thats always summoning him keeps doing it, if its finally dropping stuff I wanna be there.
     
  4. weins201

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    ok threw 18 nets last night and only got two Scalis to show, as far as i know no one got anything :gee:
     
  5. Eaerendil

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    18 nets and only 2 lobstermen??? what a bad luck!!! thats really terrible. they have to change the spawn rate as or the drop rate (best would be both...). but thanks for your reply!
     
  6. weins201

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    yeah was a bad run i have thrown 6 and gotten 4 before.

    BTW I am the guy on ATL and i hollar in general when i toss them might do a few more tonight? 8 ish
     
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  7. Eaerendil

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    Hi! Thanks for the invitation - would be great to join! I am living according to Central European Time - so "tonight" might mean something different to me ;-) Easiest would be if you send me a short message via ICQ: 618 74 39 09...

    Thanks alot!!!
     
  8. Madrid

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    I once tossed 30 Nets with no Osiredon.

    Having Fishing Skill on the character tossing the net is supposed to increase your chances (only by a small percentage), the same holds true for chances at Artifacts with Leviathan.

    I believe the drop rate is supposed to be around 30% but from my personal experience it seems to be 15-20% tops.
     
  9. Eaerendil

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    My experience with the drop rate is about 3 in 100... thats why I was so surprised that we got 3 in 3 last week ;-)
     
  10. Madrid

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    It can really get discouraging when you toss 10 Nets and have nothing to show for it. The Nets aren't easy to come by...

    About a week after I went 0-30 I remember reading a post here on Stratics aboutthe drop rate on Osiredon being too high. Some guy was farming Leviathan Artifacts and was upset that Osiredon kept spawning.:rolleyes:
     
  11. Eaerendil

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    What a fool, hehehe... No offense, just kidding ;-)
     
  12. Hoffs

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    We used to struggle to get drops from Scalis or any of the special drops from Corgul. Then I read where someone said that there was a bug with the High Seas bosses and that if you were in a party there would only be one artifact check per party and not per person. After that we dispensed with the party and, sure enough, we started getting regular drops. The rate seems to be between one in six and one in eight, meaning we get approximately one artifact per boss.

    Because doing Scalis is a pain without a party, we decided last week to test it again on Corgul to see if anything has changed. So far we have done three such hunts in party and we have not had a special drop. That is highly unusual for us and with a one in eight drop chance, it equates to only around a 5% chance given our party size; not enough to state categorically that there is still a problem, but nevertheless it leads me to believe there is.
     
  13. Eaerendil

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    thanks, hoffs. this is a very interesting information!
     
  14. cdavbar

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    I tossed some nets a couple weeks ago and got one. Win some, lose some.
     
  15. weins201

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    Uh nice info Hoffs but WAY WAY off - there is a recent post from a dev stating that the roll for drops is ONE chance for each boss - party or not is irrelevent I will link the post in a few.


    Lorgus was kind enough to answer to a post about drops on certain critters, Slasher, Medusa, Narvey and the items they might drop; Night Eyes, Slither, Tangle, but it ended up being a complete dead end.There are players who have spent HOURS (days and prob months) killing Medusa and have yet to get a Slither. Same goes for Tangles off of Narvery. Then there are some player who wander in for the first time and Wala Slither / Tangle.As a long time player and killer of both of these bosses in particular I think we are entitled to finally get and answer to why these drop or don't. Also what is the value of items on each critter ex; stone dragons tooth - slither of off Medusa?Or it is time to implement Doom rules (time, # kills) to produce a drop.TY Lorgus for trying but since you aren't there anymore someone in the know needs to produce some answers. (weins201)

    Phoenix: These bosses have very low chances of generating special drops that include SoTs, certain artifacts, and some other things. On each death, the boss makes ONE roll to drop a special item. If the item is generated, then it is given to a random top attacker. So, even in a small group, your chance of getting the special drop is close to 1 in 100, and the chance of getting the specific drop you want is even smaller. It’s straight probability, with no weighting or anything. This means that on rare occasions someone might get the perfect drop the first time they fight. But due to the nature of probability, these items are never 100% guaranteed to drop. For example, for an event that happens 1 time in 500, then there is a 13.5% chance that the event will not happen in 1,000 consecutive trials. But, it could also happen more than once – for those same odds and 1000 trials, there is a 0.5% chance that the event could happen five times, averaging one every 200 trials.
    When events have low probability of happening, it takes a very large number of trials before the rate of occurrence of the event converges to the actual odds.
    TL;DR: Lady Luck is fickle.

     
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    I know what he posted, but I also know what has been happening from personal experience. And I have a strong understanding of probability and statistics. Furthermore, this is not the system that operates with the High Seas bosses because you can get two or more drops at some. For instance, we did two Scalis hunts last week. The first yielded nothing but in the second three people got a drop.
     
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    Do us all a favor and just write when you know what you are talking about, before you tell someone he/she is off. I belong to Hoff's hunting group and we have been doing this "research" for over a year now. He knows what he is talking about and the drops on the High Seas Bosses are there, when we are not partied. They are not there when we are in a party. And we kill Scalis 4 times in an hour, so we have gathered a lot of data over the last year! That is why Hoffs is speaking of a "bug", since it is not working as intended!
     
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    In no place in Hoffs post was she stating there is a BUG. And what are you calling a drop? like in Medusa there are MANY Drops but only a few Special. I am very glad you are doing some hunting and finding out that the system isnt working like it is supposed to. What drops did 3 people get off off ONE Scalis, this is very important to know. I will be surprised if it was three specials. if you got three of these I will agree with you but I doubt you did;
    Enchanted Coral Bracelet
    Illustrious Wand of Thundering Glory
    Leviathan Hide Bracers
    Small Soul Forge
    Smiling Moon Blade

    Please let us know which three of the above you got, it is very important to be specific.

    all i posted was from a developer, and unfortunately I agree with them on this one, there is a very small chance at getting an item. I have received all of them off of Scalis except the soul forge but a friend of mine has received one at a Scalis. as for other drops from Scalis I do not know what they are.

    As stated since the odds are very low you would have to do ALOT of runs to even find some kind of pattern, sorry I still go with shes off.

    Also please explain how you kill Scalis 4 times in an hour I am curious. We have had a bunch of people there in all different forms and 15 minutes seems possible but still curious how you all do it.
     
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    We got the bottom three on your list. Bracers Soulforge and moonblade thingy.
     
  20. Madrid

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    Logrus clearly stated in his explanation that you can get multiple drops. I don't know what the arguing is about...

    Anyone who qualifies as an attacker gets a roll for a drop. You can in theory have 10 people kill Osiredon, and if those 10 qualify as attackers receive 10 drops.

    I bring all my accounts when I do Osiredon and I have received double drops on numerous occasions.

    This is old news.
     
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    OK ty and congrates on the multiple drops. I guess we will keep at it.

    Looks like Phoenix is totally wrong then
     
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    This is awesome and crazy!!! I would love to join, but dont have chars on Napa! Good work and good luck!
     
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    i think i believe the guy that plays the game everyday more than the devs sorry,not to be mean but theyve posted stuff like that before and i know its wrong,ive been on runs where 2 people have gotten crimson cintures, would advise any group to break party that way each person gets a roll