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Anyone familiar with Ter Mur ?

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  1. popps

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    I need to farm for Daemon Claws to restock it for imbuing.

    Other than the Abyss Mini-Spawns, the only place where a Fire Daemon spawns (at least that I could find...), is at the Volcano area in Ter Mur.

    Occasionally, I happen to die while hunting there and, for the life of me, I could find no wandering healer in that area or anything to res and running all the way to town to the healers takes too much time.

    Is there anything be it wandering healer or else in the area around the Volcano where one can res ?

    Thanks.
     
  2. SlobberKnocker

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    no idea bro. good luck.
     
  3. The Zog historian

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    There isn't anything around that I know of, but it's not like the city is that far away. You should be able to make it there and back before your body becomes bones.
     
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    I agree they could definitely use more healers around in Ter Mur. When your laggy already then die and have to run all that way it gets a bit annoying!
     
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    The arch demons of the level 4 spawn for the abyssal infernal also drop the demon claws. If you kill all the lower level spawn and don't kill the level 4 too fast you can farm them for quiet a while provided you don't get unwelcome company. There is an ankh on the west side of the spawn cave if you die.
     
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    Thanks for the info.

    Arch daemons ?

    I cannot find any info on them, neither on UOGuide nor Hunter's Guide.
    You have a link to a page with infos about them ?

    I have been trying to avoid mini-spawns because they slow down the collection of daemon claws since I have to do the lower levels first which have no claws....
     
  7. Merus

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    I don't think there is a page on UOGuide for them, at least the link for the champ spawn information doesn't have one. The spawn is not a mini champ, it is a real champ spawn. And while you would have to work up the first 3 levels, if you watch how fast you kill the demons you can keep them spawning indefinitely. I don't believe you can do that with the mini champs.
     
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  8. Arroth Thaiel

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    As Merus says, this is a full champion spawn, not a mini champ. Here is a link for the Abyssal Inferno champ spawn:
    http://uo2.stratics.com/essays-and-...champion-spawns/stygian-abyss-champion-spawns

    And here is the link to the Hunter's Guide for Archdemons (looks like you were spelling it differently):
    http://uo.stratics.com/database/view.php?db_content=hunters&id=3069

    Hmm, re-reading your post, you may have found this link and are saying that the Hunter's Guide has a page for Archdemons, but doesn't have much info about them on that page. Sorry, this is the only info I know about.
     
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    LOL, I am so sorry but to imagine Popps going to a fel-ruleset area to farm anything... well stratics is gonna either crash or blow up when the first red comes in and kills him! Geez people, what were you thinking?? :p
     
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    *snickers*

    I wondered who was going to tell Popps that it was Felucca ruleset.
     
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    I was thinking the same myself!

    Popps, this is not a new issue and something you should probably keep in mind is that the property you can imbue with these claws is one that is highly desirable for many who are still in factions for quickly gathering silver. Therefore, it makes some sense that these might be somewhat difficult to obtain.

    In any event, here are a couple of older threads and a link to a Stratics guide that might help you with coming up with some strategies and alternatives for getting the claws:

    http://stratics.com/community/threads/fire-daemon-locations.298581
    http://stratics.com/community/threa...when-it-comes-to-dropping-daemon-claws.284506
    http://uo2.stratics.com/questing/the-royal-city-barter (See the section on the quests from Aliabeth the Tinker.)
     
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  12. MalagAste

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    There are very few wondering healers in Ter Mur... All Gargoyles. They don't say wondering Healer though they say something else. Anyway they are mostly near the entrance to the Steps where the Boura Spawn.
     
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    Fire daemons also spawn on level 6 and 7 Ter Mur treasure maps. Not exactly a reliable source, but I have gotten daemon claws that way occasionally
     
  14. popps

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    Thank you very much Tina, your hints were very usefull as always. It looks like Daemon Claws are quite a pain to get (quite time consuming), oh well....
     
  15. Tina Small

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    Yep, they're a pain. I believe another way you might get them is as loot inside level 2 or higher treasure chests, although I never have because I don't do very many treasure chests! Unfortunately, that would be another random way to get them and very, very time consuming if that was the only way you were going to try to get them.

    If you really don't want to mess with the Abyss mini champ spawns, you should probably focus on the overland spawn area and mark a rune for a character on another account that can gate and rez to use to rescue your hunter if disaster strikes.
     
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    You are correct about the SA mini-champs. You cannot keep them at any one level indefinitely. They do not regress.
     
  17. Petra Fyde

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    no, sorry Tina, they're not found in treasure chests. The easiest spawn, for me, to get them from is the Fire Temple Ruins mini champ http://uo2.stratics.com/essays-and-guides/in-game-systems/mini-champ-spawns
     
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    So it really is just essences and abyssal cloth from the treasure chests? Oh well. I guess that's good in a way because those things accumulate a little faster from doing the maps.
     
  20. Tina Small

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    Nope, I really did mean in the chests. I just haven't done enough of them, or any high level ones, to really cement it in my head that it's just essence and abyssal cloth and nothing else that you get as far as imbuing ingredients from the maps. Darn it! I guess I thought if I did a bunch more of them maybe I'd get something else cool out of them. http://uo2.stratics.com/skill-guides/skills-and-professions/treasure-map-quests
     
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    Well maybe she did mean the chest, lol. But ya, in the chest we only get essences and abyssal cloth. But you can kill the fire daemon guardians on lvl 5-7(?) ter mur chests that pop out for claw chances.
     
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    Thank you very much also, Petra, while it is a usefull information to know that at treasure hunts occasionally one can collect a daemon claw or 2, I am more looking at a way to restock it among my imbuing ingredients which means, a more steady and speedy way to gather them....

    But it is good to know that occasionally treasure hunts can be a way to get them.
     
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    Tina, a question if I may...

    A couple of posts at the links you pointed me to, mention a "Cave" outside of Ter Mur Walls where a Fire Daemon spawns. Now, I could not find such a "Cave" nowhere in all of Ter Mur.

    Do you happen to know where it is ?

    I assume it is something different than the Lava "Pool" where a Fire Daemon spawns but with way too many Lifestealers which make that spawn, basically unusable. The Lava Pool is an open space, while a Cave implies a tunnel entrance like a place inside a mountain or so but in Ter Mur I could find no Cave.

    Thanks.
     
  24. The Zog historian

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    Some might be heartbroken now that the secret's out. :)

    To let out another secret, does the Ter Mur tinker still have the quest that sometimes gives daemon claws?
     
  25. Petra Fyde

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    yes. Tina posted the link to that earlier, see post #11 :D
    If she hadn't already done so, I would have
     
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    LMFAO. I was thinking the same thing. I was imagining the odds of his survival past ten seconds.
     
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    It would be good if this information about the Quest was also added as a note to the Daemon Claw page so players looking for ways to gather the claws would get the information....
     
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    Can I ask a question ?

    In your post http://stratics.com/community/threa...to-dropping-daemon-claws.284506/#post-2177046 you mention a "Cave" outside of Ter Mur Walls where a Fire Daemon spawns.

    I could not locate this "cave" nowhere, but I may have not looked carefully enough. I assume it is not the "Lava Pool" where another Fire Daemon spawns since the Lave Pool is not a closed Cave but it is an open area (no tunnel entrance to get into...).

    May I ask you more precise directions to where this "Cave" outside of Ter Mur walls would be ?

    Thanks a lot !!
     
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    The tinker quest gives claws but also gives undying flesh so be warned.
     
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    Well, it still is a 50% chance.....

    In the end, it all comes down to which way is the most efficient one to gather a stock of Daemon Claws.
    Since they get used 10 at a time, generally, per imbuing that requires them, a decent restock would consider like 100 of them and gathering 100 at mini champ spawns would take forever....

    Treasure Maps also, would take even more time. The Lava Pool is also a waste of time because of the life stealers which take way too much time to get killed, perhaps the Quest can cut the restocking times of Daemon Claws ?

    I need to check it out and see how much time it takes to gather the needed items and in the end how much time it takes to gather some claws. I am just trying not to have to use up all of my (scarce) in game time just to restock some daemon claws for my imbuing needs......
    I mean, if only to restock Daemon Claws I have to give up a month of my ingame time, and there is tens upon tens of imbuing ingredients to restock, it will take me a year just to get restocked, forget about actually playing the game....
     
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    The "cave" you refer to is the same cave as the one with LifeStealers.
     
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    I am not sure I understand, is it actually the open area that on Stratics is referred to as the "Lava Lake" http://uo.stratics.com/database/view.php?db_content=atlas&id=3102 (if so it is another unefficient spawn to gather Daemon Claws) or is it some other place inside a closed "Cave" somewhere around Ter Mur ?
     
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    There is only one fire daemon spawn, the lave 'cave'.
     
  34. Tina Small

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    Popps, I think that if you really think you must stock daemon claws, the best use of your time is to do the mini champ spawns that also have a chance of dropping another imbuing ingredient or two that is also in high demand. [ http://www.uoguide.com/Mini-Champs ]

    At the Crimson Veins mini-champ spawn, in addition to Daemon Claws, you can also loot Essence of Precision (for imbuing Hit Chance Increase) and Lava Serpent Crust (for imbuing the Reptile Slayer property).

    At the Fire Temple Ruins mini-champ spawn, in addition to Daemon Claws, you can also loot Essence of Order (for imbuing Lower Mana Cost property) and Lava Serpent Crust (for imbuing the Reptile Slayer property).

    At the Lava Caldera mini-champ spawn, in addition to Daemon Claws, you can also loot Essence of Passion (for imbuing Hit Lightning property) and Lava Serpent Crust (for imbuing the Reptile Slayer property).

    The more you do the mini champ spawns, the better you'll get at coming up with your own strategy for clearing the spawn most effectively and advancing it to the next level.
     
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    popps if i was you on this put up a new magincia vendor with buying and put a high price gold too buy

    if you offfer 2 x going price i bet you would get some and farming gold might be faster for you

    i know i like farming and selling regs for fast gold too these kind of vendors!

    also might drop with other randomly on rat spawn reknowns with other things
     
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    Yeah, the only spawn spot for Fire Daemons in overland Ter Mur sucks. Not only does the monsters tend to spawn in unreachable areas, but the eastern half of the area is still covered in Lifestealers, which are aggressive, a pain in the ass to kill, and you lose Karma for killing them (despite them using Necro and attacking you first).
     
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    Well, unfortunately I have to say that also the Quest you pointed me to is not viable.
    I spent considerable time down at the cavern of the Discarded to gather Elven Fletching but in the time I did all of the 3 Renowned ratmen spawns (and it is a LOT....) I did not even get 1 Elven Fletching to spawn.....

    So, that makes also this path not efficient at all just like the spawn of the Fire Daemon has been rendered useless because of the Lifestealers that have been added there.

    I guess, then, that there is no way to restock Daemon Claws in a decently reasonable time other then buying them.....

    The Mini spawns that spawn the Fire Elementals are slow, the Lava Pool in unaccessible because of the lifestealers and the Quest requires an ingredient that is way, but way too much time consuming to get.

    Oh well....
     
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    Elven Fletching can be crafted
     
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    But I believe it requires fairy dust, so you back to a mini-champ.
     
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    Yeah, but it takes Faery Dust plus 20 feathers so the faery dust needs to be gathered still and the forgotten servants are a pain in the neck.... besides, I would be back to the slowness of a mini champ which I was trying to avoid to speed up restocking....
     
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    Try the pixie/wisp/dark wisp spawn on the other side. They don't drop Essence of Diligence, but I find they drop much more fairy dust.
     
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    The pixie/wisp/dark wisp spawn is so easy and you can finish it in less than 25 minutes. The drop rate is good that one time I walk off with 30+ fairy dust from one spawn. The quest method is a very good way to get daemon claws at a reasonable rate.
     
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    Pixies: Be careful if you have bad karma. Renowned Pixie: Got a lot of hit points. Discordance is your friend. An inspired Rising Colossus works well (or maybe two or three of them).
     
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    Well, considering the difficulty I have found in getting Daemon Claws, and the fact that there is a vendor on Great Lakes selling a commodity deed of 500 of them (yes, five hundred and if anyone might be interested the price tag is 20 millions..), I think there is something here that I am missing...

    Just today I did the Fire elemental mini spawn down the Abyss, and of the 5 or 6 Fire Daemons which spawned only 2 had a Daemon Claw, and the whole spawn took quite a while to get done.

    I cannot even imagine the time it would take me to gather 500 Daemon Claws........
    Even the Quest can't possibly make it any much faster since also Fairy Dust needs to be gathered and besides, the quest has only a 50% chance at a Daemon Claw....

    So, is there somewhere in the whole UO where it is actually possible to farm Fire Daemons ?
     
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    I don't see any legitimate way to get 500 daemon claws in less than 100 hours at least


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    40k per might probably is a fair price per daily hit spawn run up short of boss just to farm regs might be worth it
     
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    ah-yup... seems the going rate is 35K-50K. I used to get 100K when the Abyss first opened, but those days are long gone.
     
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    The price sounds about right - it's spending 100 hours or more to gather 500 of them that makes me wonder.
     
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    Actually, the chest guardian demons seem to drop claws at a higher rate than the overland variety, at least for me. Perhaps you didn't know it, but there is a vendor search available now where you can find such things easily!!!
     
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    Doing the quest is a lot quicker. You will get enough fairy dust from the pixie champ spawn to get around ten claws from the quest. Remember the quest drops undying flesh as well but the claws drop more frequently . I farmed demon claws to sell them in tens, so I know the quickest way to do it.
     
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