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are you kidding?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by peanutbutter, Nov 20, 2008.

  1. peanutbutter

    peanutbutter Guest

    okay, so the towns are still being raided.

    fun.

    yay.

    if this hoopla is going to continue, can the devs PLEASE make an alternate way in and out of friggin heartwood.

    the oak runic kit i just got ganked carrying might have been a heartwood.

    aslo, i'm just stuck here with my pets, unable to leave heartwood because you can't gate or recall out and there is spawn all over the exit.

    when i mentioned this before, i was told to chill out and that the vent would be over soon, but here we are a month later and STILL heartwood is off limits for NO GOOD reason.

    it's not part of the event and, especially because of its special accessability rules, should not be so affected by the event.
     
  2. GalenKnighthawke

    GalenKnighthawke Grand Poobah
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    Invasions are disruptive.

    Help us fight it.

    Draconi btw was very specific that the invasion would continue; it's the Halloween content that was ending.

    -Galen's player
     
  3. ^Wolfie^

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    Instead of complaining, make use of game items available? Bag of sending probably would have worked well for sending kits to your bank (they aren't that useless). As for your pets, YOU chose to take them in knowing the chance of that town being invaded currently.

    Why does it seem people only want to complain when events are done for us, instead of enjoy them? I won't even get on topic of what players think of "stat loss" right now? *grins*
     
  4. Hoffs

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    Yes. Someone go and have a word with those nasty Shadowlords. Tell them that while they are slaughtering the population and trying to take over the world, will they PLEASE have the common courtesy to let crafters get their runic kits.
     
  5. JC the Builder

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    Isn't item insurance the solution to this issue?
     
  6. Aboo

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    Wow there's spawn by the Heartwood entrance. I haven't been there the last few days and there was nothing there. I will be forewarned now, thanks!
     
  7. Maybe mark a rune a safe distance away and use it ?? ask at bank for an escort ??? etc etc
     
  8. Theo_GL

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    On what shard? GL is all quiet in Yew.

    In fact - what cities can the invasion occur? Seems we put them down on GL too fast. When I log in I can rarely find a city under attack.
     
  9. peanutbutter

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    that's a great idea until you walk into heartwood and there's no spawn and you walk out 10 minuted later and there are a dozen demons that instantly target YOU.

    and, you can't recall in or out of heartwood. so, what good does a rune marked further away do me? ask for an escort? cute...

    and, you know, as for the rest of the responses like: why don't you help us? and why complain about the event?

    my answer:
    1) i appreciate the understanding
    2) i wasn't complaining about the event... i was stating that i and others asked the devs to EITHER address the heartwood entrance issue and tell us why they would make the event block up the entrance like that OR make some way for people to access heartwood (the ONLY town where you can get runic fletching and saw kits, the ONLY town where you can get key recipes, the ONLY town where you can do change races), since it was such a key location whose necessities weren't replicated in other towns.they neither told us why they chose to block the entrance, nor offered to address the problem (or at least explain why they could not)
    3) i can't do the events. i wish i could, but all i have time to do right now is reach over and click the mouse or hit the macro every few minutes.


    the point is this: when yew (or almost any other town) is blocked off, it's okay because all the vendors and stuff are replicated in other towns. anybody who doesn't have all 70's on their CRAFTER can just go to another town to get their BoD's or whatever. heartwood is the only place where you can obtain what heartwood offers, so blocking it off AND maintaining the "no recall in or out of heartwood" rule doesn't make sense.


    i know there aren't as many fletchers and carpenters as there are tailors and smiths... just imagine if there was an event where when a smilth or tailor recalled in (luxury) to get a BoD (at EVERY BoD npc), they got ganked by 12 demons. can you imagine the outcry?

    this is the same.
     
  10. Fink

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    Sorry if I missed this somewhere, and it's a bit like shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted, but.. is the stuck option not working from within Heartwood?
     
  11. Maplestone

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    I wouldn't mind if there was permanetly a bit of a guantlet to get into heartwood, especially if it disrupted scripters enough to allow the rewards to be boosted a little.
     
  12. peanutbutter

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    boost what rewards? the kits? i don't know what the scripters are doing with them, but they aren't for sale on my shard...
     
  13. Maplestone

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    (to be fair, I've only witnessed a small number of suspicious characters and they seemed to disappear when I wasn't looking, never to return)
     
  14. lazybones

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    I have to agrre with the OP.

    I dont mind the invasion (but it is starting to get annoying now), its just the recall to heartwood, do a few quests and then go to leave and get ganked thing thats really annoying. Could a message be put on the gate when the invasion is on? or open a "back door" to somewhere out of invasion range?

    On a side note running into the gate has saved my dexxer a few times so its not all bad i suppose:)
     
  15. Wilde1

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    When I do that kind of thing (forget to insure an item or send it with a bag of sending) I usually groan and blame myself, not the game.

    there are very easy ways to protect yourself from what happened. Ok, you got caught off-guard, it happens. Groan, swear at your computer, and play smarter next time. Happens to all of us once in awhile...


    ....but it aint the game's fault.
     
  16. Tomas_Bryce

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    It is an invasion. It is not supposed to be a convenient thing with backdoors and a personalized schedule that works around yours. Just think about it for a second: I N V A S I O N. They are never nice.

    Yes it sucks to die and get your items looted but that is exactly what happens in an invasion. Just because you are in Trammel does not imply you are in god mode. Just because Heartwood is the only source of Heartwood kits does not mean it has to stay safe always. Usually, invasions are often launched against strategic locations. I would say Heartwood is pretty strategic as it supplies the world with items to equip our warriors. Prime target for invasion!

    Learn to be careful next time. If you are not able to find a solution then I guess you cannot access Heartwood till the invasion shuts down.
     
  17. Farsight

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    But wouldn't you expect the enterprising elves to figure out another way out of their tree?
     
  18. Petra Fyde

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    How about using Heartwood Fel side while the event lasts?
     
  19. Xalan Dementia

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    quite simple, insure stuff. that not gonna work for you? then try help-stuck option. still dont work for ya? then stand directly next to exit of heartwood, use Hiding or Invisability, then take the one step onto exit, you will appear back in Yew and youll be invis still, then just recall. you should have time to get a transport spell to work. just leave your pets in heartwood, then when your at a safe spot out of heartwood, log off-log in and tada! your safe.
     
  20. Evilminion

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    Thank you! :D I was wondering whether somebody was going to point this out. The game isn't supposed to be easy to play at the moment, and your usual activities may very well be disrupted, but that's why it's EXCITING right now!

    Forget the crafting kits for the moment; dust off your best fighter and help us push back the invasion!
     
  21. BadManiac

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    UO is a GAME it's supposed to be FUN... I'm with the OP, Heartwood is such a key location for so many people, and now it's completely inaccessible for the duration of this event.

    Not sure why people want the drop rate of runic kits lowered, only reason there are ever many of them is because someone got one, and duped. Actually getting a heartwood kit can take up to 300,000 boards, 43,000 bows, or 4,300 quest repetitions. Even scripters can't get them any faster than that. And with that insane amount of repetitions required I can fully understand people scripting.

    No, runic kits need a lot of things, being harder to get is not one of them.
     
  22. Xalan Dementia

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    completely unaccessable? your joking right? yew is not always under invasion, there are down times. even during full spawn its not hard to run right into the heartwood door. if you cant make it into heartwood to do the gruelingly monotonous and unfun quests then take a break and do something fun.
     
  23. Petra Fyde

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    There is no invasion spawn in Felucca
    Why not use the Heartwood entrance there?

    That's what I would do if I wanted to do Heartwood quests.
     
  24. Tomas_Bryce

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    I know UO is a game and it is supposed to be fun. I am not so sure that if you realize this.
     
  25. Sir_Bolo

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    Didn't they remove guards from Felucca Factions towns? :)
     
  26. peanutbutter

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    right on. i thought elves were a higher race...

    and as far as the comments on insurance: why should i have to waste my money on a character that is specifically designed to be a crafter. i'm not PvP or PvE. i'm a crafter. why should i have to insure a CRAFTING kit... ever? i NEVER leave the city limits with it.

    again, the simple fact is that heartwood is a special town: the only place to obtain KEY QUESTS. other invasion towns have alternatives for crafters. this is a special case where specifically FLETCHERS and CARPENTERS (and i suppose alchemists, to an extent) are being put at a disadvantage while OTHER CRAFTERS are free to go about their business.

    now, this isn't a crafting invasion and has nothing to do with a war against fletchers and carpenters, so WHY block the ONLY SOURCE for their kits?

    it's simple really. it's a legit gripe and something that the devs overlooked and don't seem to care to address. i think it's sad.

    again, if there was an event that had NOTHING to do with smithy or tailoring, but EVERY place to pick up BOD's had a dozen demons waiting for you, you would complain just the same and i'd be like "i feel ya brutha!"

    and again, the event is fine. do it. chain it. collect the garbage it gives you. whatever... but WHY block off an entire town, a KEY town, that has nothing to do with the event? why put crafters who are already at a disadvantage to ALL other crafters (elves only armor, very low drop rates, only one town to complete the quests,no recall or gate option, etc...) at an even greater disadvantage when you could just provide other options? place a friggin elf in jhelom who will offer all quests, provide an alternate entrance, turn on recall options, move the yew spawn OFF the heartwood entrance, etc etc etc... anything like this would be fine for the duration of the event.
     
  27. My Fletcher goes weekly to heartwood and so far I have not had to stop. I run to check when the last invasion spawn was and where it is happening. I have found that you usually get 2 hours or more of the invasion not being active that way. So while it is taking more planning I still get in and out safely with my packies. The invasions are cyclical and you can time them. I have actively participated in fighting the invasions and I am still getting my crafters what they need.
     
  28. Maplestone

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    You could try petitioning Casca?