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Arena: Most ignored feature addition in UO history?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by aarons6, Nov 25, 2011.

  1. aarons6

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    no they screwed up thinking that each server needed 4 of these things..

    they should have just did it where you had to copy a char to ONE arena shard.

    that way there would be people from all over there fighting.
     
  2. Hunters' Moon

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    I disagree with it being the most ignored feature in the game. It is my opinion that the Virtues are the most ignored. Even with newest addition of Honesty,it still stands unfinished after many,many years.
     
  3. hen

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    Looks like only two people have used the Drachenfels arenas.
     
  4. Pinco

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    you want an arena shard to copy your character on? why don't you use TC? :p
     
  5. Merion

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    This is the time where I say: "told you so!"

    I used to cry about the wasted dev time, but they wanted to do it and so here we have it. Be it so, if I want to fight, I still go to Fel.
     
  6. Viper09

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    All arenas or just one?
     
  7. hen

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    I checked two arenas, Ocllo and Haven and it was the same two names with the same number of points. So I guess two people have used the arena system on Drachenfels.
     
  8. Prime.

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    Great addition, but a few years to late. Incase you haven't noticed 95% of the pvpers have moved on due to lack of pvp interest from the devs.
     
  9. Clx-

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    Great signature hen!

    Also; UO dev team in being wasted shocker.

    Edit; Poor Drach, was my favourite shard of all :(
     
  10. Herman

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    Can anyone duel anyone in the haven arena or do i have to only duel guild members ?
     
  11. pgib

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    Everyone knew that since day one. Not that having arenas is a problem, maybe the few remaining duelists really wanted it, it just looks a bit odd, considering the supposed lack of resources. It is not so different from the High Seas expansion: the very day it came out you could guess "ok, not many will buy this", because it is so specific that you really have to be into that sort of thing (be it pirates or duels) to appreciate it.
     
  12. GalenKnighthawke

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    We'll see how it goes.

    If it is ignored hopefully the team will have learned a lesson in 'what we say vs what we mean' and will not over-apply it to all UO players.

    I hope they are being used though. People had asked for them for a long time it would be a damn shame if they were finally granted only to be ignored.

    It wouldn't be the first time a feature of this game was considerably more-used than some players realized or were willing to credit.

    -Galen's player
     
  13. Theo_GL

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    Jury is still out here.


    Keep in miind that there are a TREMENDOUS amount of people hunting in shame and chasing Giant Turkeys. Once this wears off - the arena's will get more play.

    Right now there is no limited time or special reward like Shame/Turkeys and Arena's will 'always be there' so they aren't getting much use.

    Give it 3-4 months.
     
  14. olduofan

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    brewing maybe.....
     
  15. old gypsy

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    That fizzled out quickly, but I'll keep my distillery... I guess most players don't drink and ride these days. :)
     
  16. Tina Small

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    I'm half-kidding when I say this, but perhaps the arenas are not popular yet because using them doesn't give you something that you can turn around and sell for a profit.
     
  17. olduofan

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    fixed that for you, and I think your right
     
  18. hen

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    Fixed that for you sir.
     
  19. olduofan

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    thanks, it's hard to be perfect when you're surrounded by "GODS"

    :whip:
     
  20. hen

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    Not a problem sir.
     
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    I own many homes on Occelo near that arena on Napa. I can tell you this much, have not seen hide nor hair of any players there much less intrest on shard for it. What fighting goes on is mostly at or around yew gate as usual. Nice building but useless space, except for the dock.
     
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    Too bad. No one interested in a fair fight? Clueless since I don't PVP
     
  23. Mirt

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    I plan on using it and having my friends use it to. That being said right now there is a lot of interest with the shame revamp so it might take a bit before things get swinging there.
     
  24. Ahuaeyjnkxs

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    I was also arguing with the FEW people who asked for arenas...

    It was two person in particular with less than 100 posts.

    And it honestly came as a big surprise to me that they actually did it, so MUCH opposition it received.

    And now to learn that they designed 4 of them, and are asking players to move their house... hahaha

    this is beyond anything I can address in one post.

    As I was arguing way before they started making it ; it will only split the community further.

    It should be a separate shard (and we know full well in 2011 that its easy to open a second virtual machine on the LEGENDS server which is almost empty)

    PVP LEGENDS anyone ? :p

    But my suggestion was ridiculed, then violently opposed, only to resurface as self-evident truth today.

    *self-censored random toughts*
     
  25. Dermott of LS

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    There have been posts calling for the ability to challenge people to duels for a LONG time, and personally, even though I don't PvP (or maybe BECAUSE I don't PvP), I'm glad to see this accommodated via arenas instead of the challenge flags you see in other games. It was always annoying to me in WoW to get that popup gump when running from one place to another because someone was standing in the road challenging everyone that came by.

    The arenas allow for this to happen for the people that WANT it.

    As for the most ignored addition to UO... I'm going to go with the Bagball arena. Seems like it was a big sport in the game when the players were the ones doing it UNTIL they added ingame support for it (arena + Bagball item) at which point it basically died.
     
  26. Megwynn

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    Wouldn't the bagball arena be more "terrain" than a "feature" since it contains no coded function? I mean nobody uses the theater in Britain or the arena near Umbra either, but I wouldn't call those features.
     
  27. Goldberg-Chessy

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    I think the arenas are a good addition to the game. A bit late ofc but still solid.

    I would be willing to bet that once Shame dies down they will see alot more use.

    How can you not spend a large % of your gametime in Shame right now? Some of the pieces are mind blowing & you have to wonder if the loot will get nerfed soon.
     
  28. puni666

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    I think it's idiotic to put it in a organized combat area in a fully griefable guard zone in fel... It needs to be a passive area that won't be zerged out by a large guild. Like I said before these arenas should be placed in their own facet where reds and blues can go and only worry about stocking they're consumables and clicking the damned arena stone to enter combat. The facet should be the exact same thing the arena test server was.
     
  29. Goldberg-Chessy

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    Huh?

    Please explain how an official spot for 2 players to fairly duel will split the community?

    Are arenas perfect? Of course not but what is?

    This is just another example of classic knee-jerk reaction.

    Gotta love the haters that dont even pvp though. They have no intention of ever trying out an arena but they will cluelessly bash it all day long.

    Again, please enlighten me as to how an arena will "split the community" ?
    I would really love to hear a couple of actual facts/examples to back up this silly, uneducated notion.
     
  30. popps

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    I think likewise, currently most players are focused on Shame.

    Besides, Arenas are still not much known to the general player population.

    Perhaps, the Town Criers should be set up to advertise them ?

    Also, wider incentives to use them could help seeing more players into Arenas.
     
  31. SixUnder

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    2nd largest shard in game

    great lakes

    4 people have used and or been there.


    TOTALLY useless
     
  32. puni666

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    The arena itself isn't useless. It's actually really entertaining when used. It was a pretty popular spot on test.

    Once one shard really uses this arena and people from other shards start hearing about what ever shard it is that it's popular on I'm betting you'll see a lot of people transfer at least one character to that shard just to participate.

    I just worry about the idiotic location of it.
     
  33. Viper09

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    What they could use is a public moongate to take people to and from arenas. But people need to remember a couple things; first it's a holiday weekend and some people are away right now. Second Shame just got published so a lot of people are trying to get the good items from there and just enjoying the new spawns.
     
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    There's a lot of potential for having something a little more WoW-like with these arenas, such as regular season sorts of things, and rewards (even if just a title/public record) for being an arena champion, and arena ratings, and so on.

    This ability to duel definitely needed to be there. But in terms of the concept of.. *arenas*, that's a more organized thing, perhaps something that's coming in the future.

    I do wonder if a cross-server system would be more beneficial to such a thing. Or maybe it is in the plans. Whatever it may or may not be, they aren't telling me ;)
     
  35. virtualhabitat

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    It's up to seven now!

    Just a few more and they might have to add more arenas.
     
  36. Plague

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    Are you joking? I was on test every night when they had arena on test and it was always 6 people at the most getting bored of fighting each other...we had our little group of mages dueling over and over and once in a blue moon someone new would pop in...that seems more UNpopular than popular to me.
     
  37. Viper09

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    Obviously you weren't there during high time then...
     
  38. aarons6

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    hey how did i become the thread poster on this thread?
     
  39. Ahuaeyjnkxs

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    mwahaha

    HAAA hahaaha

    well... Goldberg, sorry, but I'm not working for you.

    The point is : make ONE arena for all servers, with character copy, much more interesting. Don't divide... you picking at my bad english skills does not improve our communication and community building effort ; you sound as in a war with me.

    A jerk ? really ? how well do you know me...

    Let the community make events IN the system (very easy to code)

    you go facts digging if you really mean to open your ears.
     
  40. hen

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    Sounds like agent provocateurs were utilised.
     
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    Guys after the holiday and after everyone gets sick of Shame, this may go up from 2 people to as many as 6. Just wait.
     
  42. Goldberg-Chessy

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    Arenas on every shard is the way to go. I want to duel the people that I have been playing with over the years on my home shard.
    I have no interest in duelling total strangers. Its not a pissing contest for me. Let the kiddies duel on test for so-called bragging rights.

    Btw, only one type of child ever uses "mwahaha" or feels the need to continually type in "HAAA hahaaha" :)

    I am sorry but that is a UO fact that has been proven time and time again by the kids ranting in GenChat.

    Nothing wrong with being a child. TOS is 14 right?

    Just saying...
     
  43. Elric_Soban

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    I love the new arenas, and it kindof blows my mind that more people aren't using it. Though I think alot of people still dont know about them.

    I think they are a great way for people who are curious about PvP to give it a try, completely consequence free (no looting, no Insurance loss, no fame loss).

    Theres absolutely NO excuse now not to try PvP. the arenas bring it to EVERYONE, FREE OF CONSEQUENCE.

    Ahh well.
     
  44. Elric_Soban

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    Me and my friend are 2 of those people.

    Its such a shame. They did a GREAT job on the arena/dueling system. Wish more ppl would care.
     
  45. pgib

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    It is not about care. From a point of view i do care about arenas, because at least two players liked the idea and it was not disruptive for other playstyles.

    It's about "fun". And what 0.5% of the players and 100% of the developers seems not to understand is that the vast majority of the player base has no - zero, none, null, nothing - fun in PvPing.

    It doesn't matter the context, the risk, the reward, the amount of baits or how many "incentives" they put: this game has 14 years and for 14 years it had 10 pvper and 1 gazillion pvmer/crafter/collectors... everything but pvp.

    So when they answer the question "how important is pvp" saying "it is very important and whatever..." we can't but think: here we go again.

    Felucca -> empty
    Siege -> empty
    Arenas -> empty

    The built one event shard for halloween pvp only... empty: 1 shard for 100.000 players (i hope...) and you could barely form an order team.

    It's an astonishing and quite wondrous dedication we see here.
     
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    I dont know what you are talking about because I have been living and pvping in Felucca for 14 years and there are people around all the time.

    Either way I wonder if you are even talking from experience? Have you lived & pvped extensively in Felucca? If not where are you getting your info from? I personally have owned Fel/Tram/Luna properties on multiple shards over many years. Have you?

    Who is living in all the houses all over Felucca? I guess they are all just storage spaces? If so, for who? Not someone like you who seems to detest Felucca so much. Maybe pvpers? Or are non-pvpers paying $13 a month just to hold storage houses in Fel? When there are still spots all over other facets. Thats a joke.

    If Felucca is so empty why is there an eternal powerscroll debate? I have seen hundreds or thousands of posts(no hyperbole btw)on this board over the years from Trammies complaining that they want to be able to get their own scrolls. Thats odd.
    In this very post you stated that there have only been how many pvpers? 10 or 0.5%?
    Even as hyperbole your number shows an amazing lack of intelligence. But lack of intelligence due to having zero real knowledge of an entire facet can be excused I guess.
    Back to the powerscrolls though.
    If there are no pvpers why are they an issue for people that do not live in Felucca? You can have no pvp experience and farm them all day if there is never anyone around to bother you right?
    Or do you believe that every shard has one tiny group of pvpers locking them down 24/7 for how many years? Lol to that.

    Lastly, I also find it odd that the Devs themselves believe in and work at pvp so hard if there are only 10 or 0.5% pvpers.

    Thats not dedication bud. Thats reality. And it is quite obviously killing you. :)
    I think thats awesome.
     
  47. Espilce

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    So far I'm intrigued, but not sold on the arenas. I would like to see some type of reward plaque or title for the top dualists. How about if you receive some kind of cheap stack-able reward every time you win a dual. Then these rewards could be traded up for better rewards.

    It would be cool to have the top dualist become the King of the Shard or Lord Commander or such title. When you log on you could be greeted by a special customized message from your King.
     
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    If Felucca is so populated, where are all the people? Yes there's a small clique of a couple guilds on each shard that fight over power scrolls. Yes, lots of Trammel people have houses there.

    But don't try to act like it's some vibrant bustling place, like people here have never played UO before and might actually believe you.

    Double fame, double resources, exclusive dungeon, champ spawns, better Shame loot, bla bla bla, and it's still a ghost town.
     
  49. Dermott of LS

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    Well my miner only mines in Fel due to double resources + knowing where to mine + random ore spawn = all ore types in abundance with no risk whatsoever. Why shouldn't I mine there? All (double) reward and no risk.
     
  50. Goldberg-Chessy

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    Uhh, define vibrant please? Because Trammel sure as hell isnt vibrant my friend. And my post never said or implied Felucca as vibrant or bustling. Just populated. Same as Trammel.

    You can do an awful lot of running around Tram and not see anyone also. Whats your point?

    Luna bank has peeps but half of them are usually afk and a % of the other half are pvpers looking to deal.

    Go to Tram Shame right now on Atlantic and you will see alot of pvp names.

    You are so wrong about it just being a few clique guilds controlling scrolls that it is laughable.

    Powerscrolls that sell for up to 10 million each cannot be obtained/controlled by the huge majority of non-Felucca players you are claiming exist? That would be absurd.
    The supposed couple of pvpers in all of Felucca are stopping hundreds or thousands of Trammies from getting the powerscrolls they so covet and use on ALL their characters? Thats just pathetic :)

    Lastly, only a fool compares scrolls/double resources/fame to population.
    That incorrect old argument just dont hunt.