1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.
  2. Greetings Guest!!

    In order to combat SPAM on the forums, all users are required to have a minimum of 2 posts before they can submit links in any post or thread.

    Dismiss Notice

As long as you have static spawns, you have these problems

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Trebr Drab, Jun 26, 2008.

  1. Trebr Drab

    Trebr Drab Guest

    You either have cheating or you have unavoidable unfairness due to lag.

    Even with the system that tracked damage and doled out loot accordingly (which is the fairest way you can code it), those who cheated to get advantages, and those who have faster systems, do much better.

    There is no way to be truly fair to all players.

    The only thing you can do is take out the predictability of where the loot is. That would call for a totally different way of doing things.
     
  2. ColterDC

    ColterDC Visitor

    Joined:
    May 13, 2008
    Messages:
    1,215
    Likes Received:
    0
    I always liked the idea that as you sat in the same spot farming the monsters that the spawn would become harder and harder to the point that it would be impossible for someone to spend more than an hour farming the same creatures.

    I'm sure there would be problems with that system and gold farmers would find a work around, but it still sounded like a cool idea.
     
  3. Doomsday Dragon

    Doomsday Dragon Visitor

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2008
    Messages:
    477
    Likes Received:
    0
    In any online game you will always have the problem of mixed system and connection speeds there is little to nothing anyone is able to do about that.

    Other than that what problem is there when we have instanced loot on most spawns static or otherwise.

    If you can deal within the damage range regardless of your connection vs others you can get the same exact loot divided randomly withing the instances so you have a fair shot at the loot.

    In the case of the current event you do not have a fair shot at loot but that has nothing to do with static spawn because the strangers do spawn at random points.
     
  4. Trebr Drab

    Trebr Drab Guest

    Doomsday, I don't agree with you at all, but I don't feel like writing a book which would be required to explain. But like I said, it would need a completely different way of doing things, including getting away from the "boss" idea that's so popular, yet so predictable and controllable (for players), in MMOs.

    And things are not fair even under the fairest code design, simply because the players who have the time to build up all the most uber gear can out-perform the other players.
     
  5. Doomsday Dragon

    Doomsday Dragon Visitor

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2008
    Messages:
    477
    Likes Received:
    0
    That's fine I completely disagree with your idea on static spawns. Loot is fair enough you don't think other players who spend the time building an uber suit as you call it should be able to out perform when they obviously dedicated the time into getting where they are?

    Seriously it sounds more like whining about not getting any loot than anything here to me.

    You get back what you put into the game that is all there is to it. It took me plenty long enough to be on a competitive level and I still cannot get loot in some situations yet you do not hear me complaining about static spawns and loot drops being unfair.

    Sure I dislike the way loot is handled in the event right now but I am making due with it even though it sucks. Was it a bad idea for the loot to be handled like it is sure is it unfair in this instance yeah but get over it already it is what it is deal with it and move on already.

    Going on 11 years of this and things are still going to be the way they have been for a long time to come better get used to the fact.
     
  6. Trebr Drab

    Trebr Drab Guest

    In the name of all the players who are not able to spend all that time to dedicate to their characters, you're damn right I think it's unfair.

    Really? I state my opinion that something is unfair, so I'm just whining, and therefore my opinion must be wrong?

    That's up to you.

    Nah.

    I suspect you're right about this, heh. :stretcher: