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Atl Poof AGAIN - WTF

Discussion in 'UHall' started by weins201, Dec 13, 2012.

  1. weins201

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    We recently had a Sever Maintenance Long Haul and a Large Patch / Publish. Either somthing is badley broken or being massivley exploited. Can we please get a fix for this. I had 6 Exodus keys in my bag on my thief. :sad2:
     
  2. Kojak

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    usually this means someone's duping :)
     
  3. Bobar

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    This does seem to be happening to Atlantic excessively, you have my sympathy. Nothing worse than a shard going down in the middle of something .
     
  4. Goodmann

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    can i report atl constantly going down as a bug?
     
  5. weins201

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    LoL you have to be logged in, prob from another shard hee hee
     
  6. weins201

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    So we are getting a minor revert every time Atl is crashing - the same thing that happened the last time Billions of gold was made, please please please tell me someone is monitoring and MANY houses are going to be burned. If its a Mechanical issue tell us dammit so we can stop working in vane for a while.
     
  7. Goodmann

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    not hearing good news so let the rumors fly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! nice bug publish!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  8. Prawn

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    they need to revert this pub prior to it hitting prodo shards...
     
  9. Viquire

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    Well, that would suxxorz, but what would we lose, a day or two?
     
  10. Lord Lew

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    I'm hedging my bet that you will see some houses in osi mode quite soon. I can tolerate the shard reverts if it means these people are exposed and their accounts destroyed. Hopefully they can link back from their exploit accounts to their main and evaporate them also.

    That or there are major issues that you just can't expect to find on test, but are found quite fast on Atlantic due to the larger population here.
     
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    If the rumors are true, and there is a dupe, they need to revert the shards AND ban the culprits by IP address (not just ban their dummy accounts). I'm sick of the people that are ruining this game. And yes I realize some ppl could have done the dupe by accident, but I'm also sure it will be real easy to tell the ones that did, and the ones that kept duping.
     
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    What about the people who

    1. Buy the gold
    2 sell items to the culprit

    This game is screwed if the rumors are true..

    Maybe if it is maybe EA will hire some real testers


    My bank balance can't handle another huge inflation that'll be my cue to hang it up
     
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  13. Bob the Merchant

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    I wonder if the Devs. have considered camping the specific server line (crashes occur) to put an end to this and those responsible for bringing the shard down.
     
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  14. Goodmann

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    DOWN AGAIN I'm hoping they do a 2 day revert or you will see an influx if new items
     
  15. Experimental

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    NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! I just completed my shard transfer :( (or thought I did, maybe not)
     
  16. DevilsOwn

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    so here's my confusion for the day (yes, I have different ones each day, many days multiple confusions)

    if this is due to some duping exploiting nonsense it happened almost immediately after the publish hit... in order for that, and I'm guessin' here, then the exploit would have had to have been discovered on test or Origin... if they can recognize it so quickly after it hits publish why on earth is it not caught in one of the other two places? seems to me that the abusers were not handed over by an honest citizen but by discovery in the offices of the developers or am I completely off-base here?
     
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  17. Goodmann

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    the test shards are more used from people looking to benefit from exploits than actual bug testing. I am not sure why the bug testing is not internal... Here we go again...weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
     
  18. Viquire

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    That is not always the case, or at least it certainly is not true of all players. However, I am sure that there is another element of player in this game, and they generally flourish in dark places where few ever visit or no one is paying attention.
     
  19. Picus at the office

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    Because the team doesn't play the game and if they do it's behind closed doors with no interaction with us.
     
  20. CottonEyeJoe104

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    I just want o kill people on ATL... which is ALWAYS down now... Wish I would have used my last xfer token to go to LS... Guess people don't crash that shard every 5 minutes to dupe. **** you dupers. Hope you all get banned, and they take the items back.
     
  21. SlobberKnocker

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    how many server lines exist in uo? could the player base form a posse and find said perpetrators or is this something that can be done outside of being visually detected.

    also is someone with some credibility or someone who has Measannas ear reaching out on this one?

    not for nothing but there has been speculation that a bug has existed even prior to this published as evidenced by the inflation of some items that are desirable., i.e. crimmies, orny's, shrouds etc. now i believe this inflation could be explained in some part to players exiting factions but we have seen 100% rise in price on some of these items.
     
  22. Experimental

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    ^^what he said. I just hope I'm not out a transfer token or any of my items because of a few idiots.
     
  23. DevilsOwn

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    that's what I mean, Viq... even if nobody is payin' attention ingame, shouldn't there be something in place that recognizes this crap automatically? I probably just don't have the right mind set, but if I were doing something ingame that would result in me becoming the most fantastically wealthy player to ever exist in UO there's a really good chance that I would not be telling anyone about it... even on Atlantic there has to be spots where I could carry out these evil schemes in solitude, especially if one of the main objectives is to not get caught! course, there's always the possibility that these cheaters simply can't keep their mouths shut and that was their downfall
     
  24. SlobberKnocker

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    i respectfully ask that this thread remain open. please dont discuss how you think it is being accomplished. we are posting here because we care about this game and hope that this thread gets noticed by the management so that corrective action can be taken.
     
  25. Lord Nabin

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    Isn't there a "Retrieve" feature for the Shard?

    I am logging into check right now :):facepalm:
     
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    On the other hand, maybe there is a reason Atl's down other than someone duping, or at least let's hope so.
     
  27. Viquire

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    I know you were around when they were talking of implementing punkbuster and what all kinds of baaaaad feelings that generated. Everyone professes to be completely honest right up until it can be proved otherwise. :/

    Besides that there is Cal and his list, with which nothing ever really happened to the best of my knowledge. Nothing is worse than proving to the people who rely on you that they can not count of your words for any real meaning.

    I would test, I have tested. I don't need a rare, or a friend on the Dev team. I don't even need anyone telling me I am doing a great job. But, I will not work only to be ignored completely. That is out.
     
  28. Gospel

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    Please stop trying to spread this rumor, it's well-known fact that most of the devs play the game on prodo shards on normal characters. Your assumptions being stated as fact only discredit any other opinions you have, most of which I've read are equally ridiculous.
     
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  29. SlobberKnocker

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    didnt dudley just get hired by EA? can anyone reach out to him.
     
  30. Picus at the office

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    When and where? Tell me the last time they really played the game with the rest of us?
     
  31. SlobberKnocker

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    dont cause a flame fest here. the point is to get this fixed. debate who plays the game in another thread.
     
  32. Gospel

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    I'm sorry I don't actually have every dev's play schedule written down and kept in my back pocket. There are interviews, posts, etc that illustrate my point. Go find them.

    Even if they didn't play the game like we do, I'm betting someone who regularly works on the code of the game from the formulas and game mechanics end is going to know quite a bit more about it than any of the player "experts" that think they know everything about the game and find it necessary to constantly remind us. How often have I heard "oh it's just simple coding to fix this" from a random idiot who has no real idea what he's talking about?
     
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  33. Viquire

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    Someones illustration of competence falls short in the real world application. There are large differences between engineers in the drafting room and contractors and service techs that actually make the stuff dreamed up in far away places work on a daily basis.
     
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    We have pushed out a server update to correct the Atlantic crash.
     
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    Thank You
     
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    Do you anticipate anymore outages today or is the issue resolved
     
  37. Tangled Metal

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    Thanks, Bleak. If this continues to happen perhaps putting Atlantic on Transfer hold is in order.

    On a related note- After the last 2 crashes, I logged in to see if I had lost anything I noticed the same character in Gen chat spamming that he was buying a Transfer token. That is to say, one of the crashes yesterday and one of the crashes today. I thought it was a little odd.
     
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    I also found it quite interesting that the day it crashed there were only 2 fishing 5.0 SOT's listed on a well known 3rd party site.

    After a couple of crashes and two days later there is suddenly 8x 5.0 scrolls for sale.

    - Just sayin'
     
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    Not that im speculating into the paranoia of dupers.. but... I just happened to buy some very inexpensive xfer tokens (x10) off a vendor on atl about 30mins ago. Like 1/4-1/3rd the price of what they have normally been selling for. I just consider myself lucky for getting a decent deal, thats all.
     
  40. Olahorand

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    Since the crashes started to happen after ATL was down for hardware upgrade, couldn't also faulty hardware be a reason?

    (Although somebody on another shard recently wondered to see more than one known name from earlier dupers ingame, so there might be something more behind.)
    Anyone knows, if the debris on banned dupers plots does disappears? Or must this be requested and done manually?

    *Salute*
    Olahorand
     
  41. Voluptuous

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    Welp...hope it catches the owner of that vendor with the zillion skull mugs and 115, 120 fishing scrolls. Dood has sold over 15 to date in less than 2 months. Not a giant dupe but hey that's 15 mil for this, 20 mil for that...constantly.
     
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    This is gonna affect all shards, on Europa people are allready buying the stupidly high end items.
    Meaning that either nobody is saving for a castle anymore or theirs suddenly been an influx of gold to Europa that they want to get rid of quickly.
     
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    Turn off character transfer, bet the shard crashes less frequently.