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Attacking your own faction.

Discussion in 'UO Factions' started by Calibretto, Feb 14, 2008.

  1. Calibretto

    Calibretto Guest

    Where did this idea come from? You attack your own faction and lose all your points and lifeforce? So some gimp tamer can just log in your own faction and attack all your reds. or! Even better they can just attack you redlined and when you auto attack you lose all your lifeforce. Hrmmmmmm....
    Kudos to the guy that came up with that idea. I sure hope he was one of the guys let go.
     
  2. Is this unique to Siege?
     
  3. Calibretto

    Calibretto Guest

    I think everyone on Siege would agree. Remove this from factions!!!
     
  4. Calibretto, I'm sorry if this is a dumb question, but I don't have the history with UO that a lot of you have. I'm under the impression that the Siege faction system is kind of a mixture of the faction rules that apply on the other shards plus rules that came from the Order/Chaos system. What was the rationale for doing things so differently on Siege? Just an attempt to take what was the best of both systems and consolidate it into just one system? Or did it have anything to do with not having a Trammel ruleset on Siege?

    If you had the choice, would you eliminate all the Order/Chaos aspects from the faction system on Siege so that it works just like on the other shards? Or are there aspects of it that you think are really worth saving? If Siege had a lot more players, would it make sense to separate the two systems again or just keep one system?
     
  5. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I can't say why this hero/evil system exists on siege, but it's a good addition. If it were implemented on other shards, the MI ability should be removed or adjusted. That's overpowered in pvm.

    However, It's definitely a bug that killing your own faction mates makes you lose faction kill points. That should be fixed.
     
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    I can't say why this hero/evil system exists on siege, but it's a good addition. If it were implemented on other shards, the MI ability should be removed or adjusted. That's overpowered in pvm.

    However, It's definitely a bug that killing your own faction mates makes you lose faction kill points. That should be fixed.

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    Does "MI ability" = "monster ignore"? Just checking....
     
  7. Calibretto

    Calibretto Guest

    The one system is fine IMO. I just think it needs alot of work and tweeks. It's had alot of the same problems for years.
     
  8. Calibretto

    Calibretto Guest

    Yes MI = monster ignore.
     
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    Where did this idea come from? You attack your own faction and lose all your points and lifeforce? So some gimp tamer can just log in your own faction and attack all your reds. or! Even better they can just attack you redlined and when you auto attack you lose all your lifeforce. Hrmmmmmm....
    Kudos to the guy that came up with that idea. I sure hope he was one of the guys let go.

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    IMO, only the first attacker should be penalized.
     
  10. Calibretto

    Calibretto Guest

    Yes.



    Or we could just remove it all together^^
     
  11. I would personally like the see people who agress their faction allies immediately ejected from factions subject to the 7 day grace period.

    After somebody kills one of your people, do you welcome him back?

    That said, of course, I doubt they could effectively implement it without 40 or 50 exploits.
     
  12. Calibretto

    Calibretto Guest

    As long as you could keep it being the one who attacked. Not sure how they could do this. I believe more in players justice and letting the gamers decide. Ea should never have stuck thier nose in it.
     
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    As long as you could keep it being the one who attacked. Not sure how they could do this. I believe more in players justice and letting the gamers decide. Ea should never have stuck thier nose in it.

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    Yeah, and every time they stuck their nose in they broke it worse. The number of abusers far outweighs the number of noble citizens these days, and unless drastic measures are taken I don't see that trend reversing itself.

    There are an awful lot of names that have disappeared from the boards over the past year, many of them fine citizens of our own shard.
     
  14. Guest

    Guest Guest

    What say you of faction spies?
     
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    I would personally like the see people who agress their faction allies immediately ejected from factions subject to the 7 day grace period.

    After somebody kills one of your people, do you welcome him back?

    That said, of course, I doubt they could effectively implement it without 40 or 50 exploits.


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    I have no tolerance for turncoats...
     
  16. Clx-

    Clx- Guest

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    I would personally like the see people who agress their faction allies immediately ejected from factions subject to the 7 day grace period.



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    why why why why why?

    If someone I don't like joins my faction, or if someone in my faction agresses on myself or my friends(perhaps on an alt character) why should I be prevented from attacking/killing them?

    What you suggest is pure trammel.
     
  17. Haleorn

    Haleorn Guest

    Pure trammel indeed. People seem to be forgetting that there have whenever factions was big been faction spies - purposely blocking/fielding their own faction and so forth. On Europa at least we used to have dedicated reds taking out such people.
     
  18. It doesn't really matter anyways... [​IMG]

    This recent group of faction changes shows that they're going to ruin them just like they have the rest of the game.

    Trammel you say? There is no difference between trammel and felucca anymore unless you consider the level of griefing tactics one group can employ on another.