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average of 10 suits

Discussion in 'UO Siege Perilous' started by Ginsu's, Aug 19, 2010.

  1. Ginsu's

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    I made 10 suits with Full 70 resists with LRC and manna regen,
    to get a average of how much a suit might cost to make.
    my prices are what i payed for the idoms.
    So price might be more or less.

    How much should I charge for doing a suit? :confused:
    and if my prices are not right. please post and let me know :grouphug:
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  2. Sturdy

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    It looks to me like you need at least 100k- maybe 125? I dont know if you buy all your mats at retail or what- if you make your own residue and essence that would hold the price down.

    I know 100k is a threshold for me of what I am willing to risk on day to day errands. Others are probably less price sensitive.
     
  3. Ginsu's

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    well as of now I have to buy all my goods. because i just cant keep my vendors full.
    and it doesn't leave much time to run around and farm for goods
     
  4. Uvtha

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    Yeah, it would be nice if there were more reliable sources of regular gems than buying them. T chests and gypsies help... but they still aren't very reliable.
     
  5. FrejaSP

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    I too would like to see some cost prices for different imbued suits, I had been trying to price mine right too, I will post my cost for making suits when I get home.
    Maybe Petra can add it to the shop thread when we have the prices for different suits and maybe jewelry and weapon too.

    I'm sure I'm selling some of mine to cheap too.
     
  6. Freelsy

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    Sir, if your suits are selling out quickly then you're probably selling for too cheap. If you're one of the very few vendors supplying these then you have a lock on the market. Charge what you will. Don't ask what people think you should pay. Set your bar and make people pay what you want. If a suit costs me 90k to make, just from materials You better bet I'll be charging at least half on top... So 130-150k per suit. No one knows if you farmed up materials, purchased or what. You're the supplier, they are the customer. If you notice yoru vendor lacking. Bring your prices down. but as you say, you cannot keep it stocked.... you're probably charging too low.

    jack those prices up and make some mula!
     
  7. Ginsu's

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    Ya I think that's a good idea, about petra posting prices on suits,
    looking forward to seeing your results, you come up with on your suits
    :grouphug:
     
  8. FrejaSP

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    I had not counted what I use the way you have but what it would cost without fails. To that I add 50% to get my sale price.

    I always add resist last and I'm not all sure how much I use but I think you is right, it's around 20-25k for 5x70 and I will think 10-15k for 5x60.

    I do not use as much as you for 100 LRC unless I add it last, the last mod will always around 50% more as it fail more. I add 17 lrc on 6 pieces.

    I only count 500gp for Essence as Freja farm for unraw. Same with Luck resource, 500gp each.

    First some of my wares, Think my cost price is to low, some of it I do sell cheaper than the counted sale price here.

    Code:
    Item				Cost price	Sale price
    Suit				3.000		plus 50%
    LRC100				10.392		15.588
    Lrc100, Luck 600		49.632		74.448
    Lrc100, Luck 600, 5x70		72.880		109.320
    LRC100, MR6, 5x70		45.910		68.865
    Lrc100, MR6, SI42 5x70	7	8.022		117.033
    LRC100,Luck600, MR6, 5x70	85.150		127.725
    Resist 5x70			26.248		39.372
    MR6, HPR6, Luck600,Resist 5x70	88.468		132.702
    Luck600, MR6, 8HPR, RPD13, 5x70	89.700		134.550
    Luck600, 5x70			65.488		98.232
    Ring, 2x13+ skill		8192		12.288
    Luck600, MR6,5x70		77.758		116.637
    
    Then some of the mods. I first started the work yesterday, so there may be some errors. I do not yet have a list with resources, may come later.

    Code:
    Mod			Cost price	Sale price
    LRC 100			7.392		11.088
    LRC 18			1.336		2.004
    LRC 20			51.540		77.310
    Luck 600		39.240		58.860
    RPD 13			1.232		1.848
    Poison R 16 x 2		4.144		6.216
    Physical R 15 x 2	7.504		11.256
    Fire R 17 x 2		3.312		4.968
    Energy R 16 x 2		4.144		6.216
    Cold R 16 x 2		4.144		6.216
    MR 6			12.270		18.405
    MR 12			1.827.540	2.741.310
    MI 42			22.032		33.048
    SI 42			32.112		48.168
    SI 48			220.140		330.210
    SR 12			24.084		36.126
    SR 18			1.840.140	2.760.210
    HPR 6			10.710		16.065
    HPR 12			1.824.420	2.736.630
    HPI 24			16.710		25.065
    HPI 30			204.420		306.630
    SDI 10			3.672		5.508
    SDI 12			204.590		306.885
    DI 22			2.832		4.248
    DI 25			203.540		305.310
    Skill +13		4.096		6.144
    Str 7			5.352		8.028
    Int 7			3.256		4.884
    Dex 7			3.256		4.884
    Spell Challenge		54.690		82.035
    Mageweapon -21		3.881		5.822
    Hit mana leech 60	2.072		3.108
    Hit mana leech 68	12.590		18.885
    Hit Lower def 44	3.256		4.884
    Hit Lower def 50	34.070		51.105
    Hit lower attack 44	3.672		5.508
    Hit lower attack 50	34.590		51.885
    Hit Life Leech 60	1.656		2.484
    Hit life Leech 68	12.070		18.105
    Hit Harm 44		3.672		5.508
    Hit Harm 50		34.590		51.885
    Hit Fireball 44		3.256		4.884
    Hit Fireball 50		54.070		81.105
    Hit dispel 50	1	2.040		18.060
    Slayer			502.590		753.885
    
     
  9. Ginsu's

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    WoW this help a lot :thumbup1:
    I need to jack up prices just to get up to were you are,
    if you think you was low you should have seen what i was selling my suits for. :sad4:
    Oooo well, :gee:

    i will keep track of what i use and prices. and pass it on to petra
    and to you if you like

    tks again... well off to the game and take my suits down and fix prices
     
  10. FrejaSP

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    Then I fear you may be loosing money and if we sell to low, it may be hard for new imbuers to make it.

    If we can find some prices we can agree about, that still are cheap but we also make money, then it will be easier both for the buyers and us I think.

    I will try to add more mods to my list, also some of the expensive one.

    It will also give the customers and idea about what choices they have if they have 100k or 200k or maybe more to put in a suit.
     
  11. Petra Fyde

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    I think I'll stop making suits. I hate math.
     
  12. Ginsu's

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    I was working on this chart. If you like it I will keep going
    Lets say someone wanted a full 70 resist suit with LRC and 6-MR
    The price would be

    Suit 2,000
    Resist 52,000
    LRC 30,000
    MR 6k X 6 pices = 36,000

    Total amount for the suit 120k

    what do you think?

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  13. FrejaSP

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    Many do hate math, so a list will help when we are done with it :)
     
  14. Ginsu's

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    lol ya it does get old after 10-15 suits :stretcher:
     
  15. FrejaSP

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    How do you get so high a price for a suit with LRC-100, MR-6, Resist 5x70?
    I only get a price of 78k with 50% to fail and profit.

    Code:
    Leather suit	2.000
    Resist		25.000
    LRC-100		10.000
    MR-6		15.000
    [B]Total cost	52.000[/B]
    50% profit	26.000
    [B]Saleprice	78.000[/B]
    
    Only if I add 100% to fail and profit can I get close to your 120k
    The resources to LRC is cheap and yes I only count 500g for essence but still not near your price.
     
  16. Ginsu's

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    i was going off the average of the 10 suits i did.
    then add 2k ever time i imbue something

    was just looking at the numbers lol don't add up .. i think i need a brake

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  17. Petra Fyde

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    You're shopping in the wrong place.
    star sapphire 262gp
    emerald 209gp
    sapphire 209gp
    ruby 157gp
    citrine 104gp
    amber 209gp
    tourmaline 157gp
    amber 104gp
    diamond 419gp
     
  18. Demon Wind

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    This is what I would like in my suits:

    Mage suit
    Mana Reg 1 on all pieces
    LRC all 6 peices to total 100%
    mana increase 7 on all pieces
    All 70s resists preferably 75 in fire and poison

    Dexxer Suit
    Mana Reg 1 on all pieces
    Mana Increase 7 on all pieces
    Hit Point increase on all pieces
    All 70s preferably 75 in fire and poison

    Price to be determined by the Imbuer :)
     
  19. nightstalker22

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    Your profit margins are much too low, even in your new calculations.

    If for example, you make a 120k suit, and your profit margin is only 3k gold, that suit better sell the very same day, else vendor fees will break you.

    120k suit = 720 gold per day that it sits on vendor. If it sits there 5 days, you're paying 3600 gold to the vendor, and you just lost 600 gold for making the suit... now what if it continues to sit there?

    They are flying off the shelf now, but thats because you're practically giving them away... when you fix the prices, they will move slower, and vendor fees become an issue.
     
  20. Ginsu's

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    Hmmm I did not think about vendor fee.
    Tks for the heads up :thumbup1: