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Balanced on 2 handed weapons?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Quenchant, Sep 23, 2009.

  1. Quenchant

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    So, I was sitting here contemplating a few things about the new expansion. I was reading the list of items needed for imbuing and what you could imbue. I noticed that balanced was a property that could be imbued on bows and that got me thinking.

    Why just bows? Wouldn't it be nice if it could be imbued on all 2 handed weapons. If nothing else, shouldn't balanced be a roll for crafting staves with a runic saw?

    Obviously this would be desired by Samurai's. I can only really think of the upside of this change and how it might revitalize dexxers a bit.

    What would be the downside to this change?

    Your thoughts & comments on adding the balanced property to more items would be appreciated.

    Q

    PS I haven't seen a post on this since the expansion. The topic might have been covered before, but I missed it if it was.
     
  2. red sky

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    Very good point. :thumbup:
     
  3. Demonous

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    i say it should be put on shields too
     
  4. Specialshoes

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    Wasn't balanced put in place because there are no one handed bows?
     
  5. Storm

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    exactly and you cant parry with a bow
     
  6. jtw1984

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    Bad idea.
     
  7. Quenchant

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    While there might not be any one handed bows, you still shouldn't be able to parry with a ranged weapon. IMO

    Just seems that a dexxer would benefit more from a balanced weapon. Most archers aren't up close to do damage. It isn't that big a deal to drop a bow drink a pot and re-equip. It does restart your timer for taking a shot, but swing speed is comparable on 2 handed weapons vs most bows.

    I know you can Parry with 2 handed weapons, but does making them balanced really unbalance the game?

    Q
     
  8. The Fallout

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    *Most* not all, two handed weapons are too slow to be useful. Adding the balanced perk would be fine.
     
  9. In Flames

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    QFE
     
  10. Barry Gibb

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    A Samurai with 120/120 (Bushido/Parry) has a 40% chance to block with a two-handed weapon and a 35% chance with a one-handed weapon. This is a small sacrifice to bieng able to use potions. It is fine the way it is now.

    What is considered "too slow"? There are a handful of slow ones, but hardly enough to say most of them. If too slow is > or = 3.75, then there are 5 out of 36 (war hammer, bardiche, halbred, large battle axe, and paladin sword), this does not include any new gargoyle only weapons.

    Two-Hnaded Melee Weapons (Speed in Seconds @ 0%SSI)
    Black Staff 2.75
    Gnarled Staff 3.25
    Nunchaku 2.5
    Quarter Staff 3.25
    Shepherd's Crook 2.75
    Tessen 2
    Tetsubo 2.5
    War Hammer 3.75
    Axe 3
    Bardiche 3.75
    Battle Axe 3.5
    Bladed Staff 3
    Crescent Blade 2.5
    Daisho 2.75
    Double Axe 3.25
    Executioner's Axe 3.25
    Halberd 4.25
    Hatchet 2.75
    Large Battle Axe 3.75
    No-Dachi 3.5
    Ornate Axe 3.5
    Paladin Sword 5
    Rune Blade 3
    Scythe 3.5
    Two Handed Axe 3.5
    Dble Bladed Staff 2.25
    Elven Spellblade 2.5
    Kama 2
    Lajatang 3.5
    Pike 3
    Pitchfork 2.5
    Sai 2
    Short Spear 2
    Spear 2.75
    Tekagi 2
    War Cleaver 2

    Archery Weapons for Comparrision (Speed in Seconds @ 0%SSI)
    Bow 4.25
    Composite Bow 4
    Elven Longbow 4
    Magical Shortbow 3
    Yumi 4.5
    Crossbows 4.5
    Heavy Crossbow 5
    Repeating xbow 2.75

    The average speed of the two-handed weapons is 2.97s, where as the average speed of Archery weapons is 4s and one-handed weapons is 2.91s.

    Balanced is fine on bows only.

    Stayin Alive,

    BG
     
  11. Hildebrand

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    I'd like to see the slow non-used Halberd have a 2 tile distance use (like the old Ultimas). THAT is something that would make them useful or fun. It is so slow as is.
     
  12. Beer_Cayse

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    Polearms in general should have an increased range of 2 tiles. After all, it's larger than a club, mace, wand but does not fire missile ammo. I'd love to see this as a change to halberd, bardische, spears at least.

    Hmmmm, then again spears could be thrown.
     
  13. SUPRsalad

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    yeah, if you want to see tactics mages with balanced halbreds doing 45-55 dmg a pop, then by all means. . . Ill be one of the first to rock that ****.
     
  14. NuSair

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    Actually, you can. (maybe not in UO, but you can parry with a bow)