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[Treasure Hunting] Bard vs Mystic

Discussion in 'UO Fishing and Treasure Hunting' started by Lord Taliesin, Nov 11, 2014.

  1. Lord Taliesin

    Lord Taliesin Seasoned Veteran

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    Hi all,
    I'm thinking about redoing my t-hunter. Currently I'm running(with jewels):
    GM Carto
    GM Lockpicking
    GM Mining
    110 Magery
    120 Music
    120 Peace
    120 Provo

    This works great for soloing maps except for Ancient Wyrms/Greater Dragons. I can't keep them peaced even with a slayer harp for my EVs to kill them.

    I'm considering replacing the bard skills with Mystic/Focus for RCs, anybody run a mystic t hunter and can confirm that the RCs will take down an ancient wyrm?
    My other thought was dropping peacemaking to add disco and using a dragon slayer spellbook. Thoughts?
     
  2. Tomarke

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    I am contemplating that exact same mysticism template right now. I will have to wait until the semester is over to get the training done but if you try it out please post how it goes. I've never played a mystic before and I am very excited; I've already picked up a 120 mysticism scroll.
     
  3. Logrus

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    If you swap magery for mystic and provo and peace for focus and discord, then you might have more luck.
    Also once you summon the RC and disco the wyrm you can also use the discordance bard abilities to speed up the process. (And slayer instrument of course)
     
  4. Lord Taliesin

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    Thanks Logrus, my concern with dropping Magery all together is losing invis, I suppose I could try to work in enough to cast with scrolls. I also realized that if I'm on foot to cast RC I might have trouble with Balrons chasing me down. I love the Disco masteries on my 4x120 bard with a slayer instrument, very under rated way of doing good damage.
     
  5. Logrus

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    I suppose for invis you could always have invis potions as a crutch option.
     
  6. Pirate Roberts

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    Disco and RC works on all levels of guardians. I can easily solo level 7 maps on an facet. Frost dragons are fun!
     
  7. Lord Taliesin

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    Thanks Robert, is your t-hunter a gargoyle? I worry about running 'round on foot!
     
  8. Pirate Roberts

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    He is, if you'd like I can meet you on test and give you a quick walkthru on a few maps. I'll be on foot as a gargoyle to show you how I did it as a human. If you are interested, contact me by sending a tasty carrier pigeon via icq: 57206514. Unless you play on LA or SP.
     
  9. Yadd of Legends

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    I don't have High Seas to do L6 maps but usually do L6 in just a few minutes with greater dragon. Makes me wonder, though, am I only one still thunting with a dragon instead of rising colossus?
     
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    I run 2 accs when I do the t-maps. I have my thunter to find them, and my myst/mage to kill the spawn.

    If you drop music and add in 120 focus and mystic, u will have no problems doing any maps. Only challange is renegades in illsh. Also make a suit with high mr and lmc.
     
  11. Keith of Sonoma

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    Nope! My T hunter still uses a greater dragon, and he can solo lvl 7's, although the frost dragons require a bit of skill and time to take down. Of course if I just had an extra 120 skill slot laying around I could add 120 spell weaving as well. With my mage/tamer/spell weaver/treasure hunter, a greater dragon, and my dragon scrapper, they wouldn't stand a chance!
     
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  12. Pirate Roberts

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    Disco, RC, bombard with dragon slayer book makes quick work of frosty.
     
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    Do you fail much trying to disco on the Frost Dragon? I have been thinking of making a bard thunter using mysticism.
     
  14. Yadd of Legends

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    I've never discoed a frost dragon with my thunter but it was no problem with my disco tamer, first try. She does have 120 music and disco, though. I wouldn't recommend less (with jewelry).
     
  15. Pirate Roberts

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    I've been hunting with my bard for so long, I don't really notice the fails. It is expected with the high end bard difficulty stuff. Frost dragons are no problem though. When I'm invised, I cast invis, and MW down to toggle my disco macro, and immediately target my mark, shortly after my cursor pops up for invis and I target myself, so it's real low risk. I had a picture posted up years ago when I was in the dungeon in islhenar where the blood ele's and twin ballys spawn. I actually got two paragon balrons spawned, disco'd both and provoked them on each other. The screen shot had the "you provoke message" and two golden balrons squaring off, was a pretty cool UO moment for me. You won't regret making one.
     
  16. Yadd of Legends

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    You do have 120 disco and music, don't you?
     
  17. Pirate Roberts

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    I run
    120 Music
    120 Disco
    120 Mage
    120 Meditation
    120 Focus
    120 Mysticism

    I stone on Cartography to decode map, and stone on mining to find it. Move once I start digging and mark the stop, repeat for several maps. Tag my luck statue, and recall to each spot and dig the map with the above mentioned template. Pick it with another character, or stone on lockpick and right back off. Loot, and repeat.
     
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    Thought so, 120 music and disco - don't leave home without it
     
  19. Pirate Roberts

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    I now use my warrior for chests as I find it much quicker. Also I don't have to run off while looting the chest when a guardian pops. Greater dragon, no problem. AW or Frosty, no problem. Enemy of one, honor, AI=dead a lot faster than disco and RC, and my blade can't be dispelled!
     
  20. Bringer Of Pain

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    Mystic
    Focus
    Magery
    Lockpick
    Carto
    Mining
    Meditation

    Using my RC and a slayer book I can solo any level map. I lure the harder creatures out a bit so I can cast on them easier. I use eagle strike almost exclusively. Dig up the chest with my luck suit on while mounted. Once the spawn pops run away switch gear then cast invis on myself. Dismount then drop my RC, equip my slayer and go to work. When looting if something spawns, invis myself for a second then recast RC. Easy enough.
     
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    Bringer of Pain, I might have to try out that template. Currently I have a discordance template but the mana regen seems pretty lacking for high-end chests. Thanks for showing your template!
     
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    What is each skill at with and without skill enhancing items?
     
  23. Murdok

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    I run a myst/mage t hunter and do really well solo up to lvl 6 maps. I tried a 7 but those silly frost dragons are a pain in the rear!

    My temp is
    100 cart
    120 focus
    100 lockpicking
    115 magery
    65 med
    100 mining
    120 focus

    My suit has all 70s resist 100 lrc / 40 lmc and 12 mr with 2390 luck before statue...
     
  24. Bringer Of Pain

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    I'd have to look but I think it's the following:

    120 mystic
    120 focus
    100 l.p.
    100 carto
    90 mining
    100 magery (+30 jewels)
    120 med

    18 hpr
    24 MR
    Well over resist caps
    140 hp
    26 stam
    185+ mana
    45dci
    15 rpd
    40 lmc
    Not sure on sdi.

    Almost all legendary items from chests.

    Now frost dragons can be annoying due to dispels, but with a slayer book they go down with a reasonable amount of effort. Without a slayer it took me a long time.

    If anyone is on atl and wants to see how it's played let me know.
     
  25. Bringer Of Pain

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    Mana used to be a problem due to casting RC over and over on frost drags. With 24+ MR and 120 focus and med its a rare occasion that I run dry. Also with using eagle strike and a slayer book I conserve on mana quite a bit.

    I will say that 18hpr has saved me quite a few times. I run strictly in protection mode and can heal through almost all poison levels with my suit alone.
     
  26. Riply

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    This is what I am planning to do is use my warrior on the treasure chests. Do you mark a rune away from the spawn so you can recall out and pick them off one by one. What template are you using for your warrior?
     
  27. Pirate Roberts

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    My warrior is:
    120 Swords
    120 Tactics
    120 Bushido
    120 Parry
    120 Chivalry
    100 Lockpicking

    Or I have 120 Anatomy and stone it off for lockpicking.

    I just got my uncle trained up, and we use two mystics now for treasure maps. Gank the spawn with 2 RC's, pretty quick.