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Beetles

Discussion in 'UHall' started by TheScoundrelRico, Sep 22, 2008.

  1. TheScoundrelRico

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    Why can't their packs be opened as the packs from horses and llamas can? IMO, this should be changed to allow us nosey thieves to look inside their packs when they are not mounted...la
     
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    Don't see why you can't. However, I don't see a "pack" on the beetles themselves. I assume the storage space is in the beetle itself in some kind of cavity. In that case I doubt it would let you poke around inside it.
     
  3. TheScoundrelRico

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    I'm good though, it would never even know I was peeking...la
     
  4. Petra Fyde

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    Double clicking a packhorse/llama opens its pack
    double clicking a horse mounts the horse
    double clicking a beetle mounts the beetle - therefore to open the beetle's pack needs an alternative action. Currently via the context menu. You wish to add 'snoop' to the context menu of tame beetles owned by other people?
     
  5. DHMagicMan_1

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    I don't like theives so I don't think they should get anything new.

    Nothing new for thieves!

    ((I'm just kidding. I don't play a theif and don't play in Fel so if this is something that would make sense for people who play this style I have no objection. I'm just being objectionable the way some people post about "No more colors" or whatever in threads that don't affect them or they could easily ignore. ))
     
  6. TheScoundrelRico

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    Alt or Ctrl / double click would be fine with me...la
     
  7. Petra Fyde

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    To save you some valuable time. My Siege chars never have anything worth stealing in their beetles rolleyes:
     
  8. Silly Seadog

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    Arrrr, or mebbe add an action button fer the Snoop skill!
     
  9. Sheridan

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    Snooping + Anatomy or Veterinary then? ;)
     
  10. gunneroforgin

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    Perhaps it was done this way to discourage the theives and perplex them. LA! lol
     
  11. Flora Green

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    Don't any of you care about the poor beetles? They are beaten into submission before entering captivity. Their abdominal cavity is used for storage, they have ingots smelted on them which means somehow they are being heated and they poop ingots. On top of all that Rico wants to snoop around in them!:sad3:
     
  12. Rix/\

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    introduce a new thieves tool for snooping beetles, like some kind of bug spray.
     
  13. TheScoundrelRico

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    Maybe if it took anatomy and veterinary to ride them...la
     
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    It would be interesting if a tinker who owned a pack horse/llama or beetle could tinker trap them so that if a thief snooped them they would take damage from the tinker trap.

    Sort of like the current system of trapped items; the higher the tinker skill the more powerful the trap.
     
  15. TheScoundrelRico

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    I'd love for thieves to be able to unlock items in other people's packs...heck for that matter disarm traps too...It would require a lot of extra skill points used for a thief to get something out of a players pack...la
     
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    That part got me to thinking. If a fire beetle's shell is hot enough to melt ingots, how are people managing to sit on top of them and ride them around? Just a thought.


    BTW Rico, I'm with you. We need to be able to snoop those beetles!
     
  17. UOKaiser

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    I try to think of it like in the movies where a type of ridable fire creature can tone down all the heat to nothing for its rider and turn it up for people it dont like. So assume fire beetle turns the heat off to acceptable levels when the rider gets on or the cavity of the fire beattle is super hot to melt that ingot like the cavity of the blue beetle can hold items.
     
  18. Olahorand

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    Well, you know your sticky fingers would be in danger, if you as a stranger put them into the Beetles pack. Since these eat meat - your fingers would be welcome as food. To save you from this pain, you do not even get the chance.
    You see - its all to your best ...
     
  19. Sheridan

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    I prefer to think of the fire beetles eating the ore and crapping out the ingots as if they had a specialized stomach for it. :D
     
  20. OldAsTheHills

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    I agree...but if your sticky fingers are in the saddlebags when the beetle
    owner mounts, may your fingers be smashed and ouch... you are revealed!

    *stares*
    Yahaxithonix
     
  21. TheScoundrelRico

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    I'd accept that. I just want to be able to see what all those people are hiding when they are moving house locations...la
     
  22. Black Sun

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    So, if there is this super hot cavity on the fire beetles, shouldn't (by logic) I be able to stuff the largest piece of coal I can get my hands on into that cavity and have it produce a diamond?

    If that's the case, I'm renaming by beetle, because that analogy reminds me of a guy I used to work for. The office opinion of him around the office was he was so uptight if you stuck a lump of coal up his butt you'd have a diamond in a week. Maybe I should rename by fire beetle Kevin? :D
     
  23. Snoop + Veterinary + shoulder length gloves ...
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    good to go

    ...Ha!
     
  24. Silly Seadog

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    Arrrrr, FD done returned to UHall from Stratics OT!
     
  25. Evilminion

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    TOO MUCH INFORMATION! Heehee!

    Seriously, though, I've never played a thief, so I didn't realize this wasn't an option. Leaving aside the question of where exactly the beetles store all that stuff... :eek: ...I see no reason thieves shouldn't be allowed to peek in the beetle's "pack".
     
  26. Sweeney

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    I don't see why snoop can't be made an active skill (with the blue button on the skill list). It follows the same mechanics as Stealth which can be used by walking or manually clicking the button, even if I have no idea why stealth has an option to be done manually.

    It's an easy add-on.
     
  27. MalagAste

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    Do to the mechanics of a beetle I don't think it's snoopable..... just my opinion... But I don't think it has a "bag" per say as it has more of a compartment..... which I am SURE if you had to lift his wing to get into he definitely would notice.

    [​IMG]
     
  28. Flora Green

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    So wrong, yet would answer so many questions...:D
     
  29. Anakena

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    Courtesy commands that he should be able to judge himself what is valuable or not.
     
  30. Anakena

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    never tested it, but is it possible to random steal from them?
     
  31. TheScoundrelRico

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    Excellent point...la
     
  32. Black Sun

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    I think that's a throw back to when stealth didn't automatically work when you started walking. Back in the old days (if memory serves me correct) you had to actually hide, manually use stealth, then count your steps and manually start to stealth again. Talk about a huge P.I.T.A.


    What about what Anakena asked? Is it possible to random steal from them? (Yes, Rico, I know REAL thieves don't random steal, but humor me.)
     
  33. TheScoundrelRico

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    I'll have to investigate that later tonight. I can't say I've ever tried...la
     
  34. Petra Fyde

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    yes, you can random steal.

    I parked my crafter's loaded beetle in our Felucca house on Europa. Logged in (different account) my light fingered beggar . (She's not a 'proper' thief, she doesn't have snooping) She was able to randomly acquire several things from the beetle - and totally screwed up 9 orange petals, The game now insists they're feathers, can't eat them. Tried putting them in a secure, closing the client, still feathers. Can't make arrows with them though :D
     
  35. TheScoundrelRico

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    No, the arrows are created when you steal the green thorns...la