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Best weapon for Sampire

Discussion in 'UO Warrior' started by Pyccy, Sep 21, 2009.

  1. Pyccy

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    As above I was wondering what is the best weapon for a Sampire who uses Swordmanship...
    Thanks in advance for your replies :)
     
  2. Ender

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    For swords, you should use radiant scimitars, rune blades, and ornate axes.

    Should have SSI and Mana Leech at the bare minimum, then Stamina Leech and Hit Lower Attack.
     
  3. Pyccy

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    hmmm what about ssi dmi mana stamina HLD?
    is hla better than hld?
     
  4. Pyccy

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    i was planning to use an hatchet, the one which u find on monster loot, it cant be crafted...Armor ignore is the special...what u guys think?
     
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    Any one-hander that hits fast, hard, and has the following mods: ssi, di, hml - if possible, also hsl and hld (unless you wear mace & shield glasses).

    Hatchet is fine if you have the right mods, but I think of AI as more of a PvP special. If you're not using whirlwind special, you should be honoring then spamming lightning strike. :-D
     
  6. guum

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    You need two things: an AoE weapon and a single-target weapon.

    A good starter AoE weapon is Soul Seeker -- it has lots of SSI, HML, and HSL, all of which are critical, as well as the bonus (good for a sampire) HLL. What Soul Seeker does *not* have is DI. This, combined with the fact that Radiant Scimitar damage is not fantastic to begin with, makes it a very poor single-target weapon, and not a "perfect" AoE weapon. But it'll definitely do in a pinch.

    For swords, I'd go with an ornate axe for your single target weapon. You need one with as much SSI as you can get, as well as HML, HSL, and DI. HLA or HLL are bonuses. Since the ornate axe is very slow, you need to stack stamina/dex in pretty much every available slot and try to keep up Divine Fury as much as possible -- you can do a lot of damage with a good ornate axe, but if you aren't careful, your swing speed can drop to a crawl, and your source of life, mana, and stamina will dry up. When that happens, you will die. ;)
     
  7. Ender

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    Soul Seeker is definitely very usable to start off with. I used to solo Dread Horn with it, XD
     
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    It's more desirable most times since HLD you can get from the glass slot.
     
  9. Ender

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    HLD is fine, but really it's preferrable to have HLA if you have the Mace and Shields glasses (I do). I can't find any weapons with HLA though, so until I get my imbuing up, I don't have any, lol.
     
  10. pgcd

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    In my experience, you can't really do without HSL unless you have an insane amount of SR on your suit - I'm using an Ornate with 50ish DI and HML and 20SSI, and it's absolutely a killer, until I get hit a couple times and my stam drops under 120.
    I'm also using a bone harvester with 50ish HSL and HML, and it's very effective even with lower DI, more effective actually. The two reasons I'd rather use the ornate are that the bone harvester also has some 20% Hit Energy Area, which might or might not be desirable, and that its durability goes way too fast with the recent changes.

    As for HLA, I agree that it's a lot more desirable than HLD: you can get the latter on Mace and Shield Glasses, and as someone said, not being hit is better than being hit and surviving.
     
  11. The best weapon for any warrior is the one that's best for the situation.
     
  12. Gurb

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    Was considering taking my sampire Gargoyle to use:

    Abyssal Blade (Stone War Sword)
    · Hit Mana Drain: 50%
    · Hit Fatigue: 50%
    · Hit Stamina Leech: 60%
    · Hit Mana Leech: 60%
    · SSI: 20%
    · DI: 60%
    · Chaos Damage: 100%

    Anyone have experience using this sword on the template? Any thoughts/ideas?
     
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    Very nice mods, but be sure you have a ton of stamina increase (aim for 150), as this weapon is pretty slow.
     
  14. Ender

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    Ew, a gargoyle sampire? You have 30 DCI or less, don't you? And you can't use a swamp dragon for damage reduction. Ew. I wouldn't do it, especially not with a slow weapon like that. But I dunno.
     
  15. Gurb

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    Oh very good observations Ender. I honestly hadn't read anything about the Gargoyles yet so I wasn't making a very good judgment call. Got all excited when I saw the weapon and the stats.

    Time to continue my search for a better weapon than the Soul Seeker.
     
  16. Which shard are you on? I have several Sampire Twinks for sale. I don't know if they can be "converted" or not, but if they can, and you're on Pacific, then I've got what you need.
     
  17. Gurb

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    Connor I'm on Baja but I'll see if any guild mates are planning on doing a transfer anytime soon.
     
  18. phantus

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    If you get the materials I'll make you a good weapon. I have a legendary imbuer on baja. Just send me a PM. I can make decent ones with just jewls as well.
     
  19. guum

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    Imbuing is a real boon to the sampire. I made a couple of sampire weapons on my imbuer the other day...one is a twinkling scimitar for AoEing with HML 40%/HSL 40%/HCI 10%/SSI 25%/DI 45% (HCI is good for whirlwind since you can't lightning strike & whirlwind simultaneously), and an ornate with HSL 40%/HML 52%/HLA 30%/SSI 25%/DI 40%. Both were made when my (human) imbuer was still at like 110 imbuing and using the ghetto forge in the middle of the city and no special ingredients, so I could do better now, but they're both rockin' weapons. I'd suggest that you make a couple of copies of each if you're going to use imbued weapons though -- you don't want to run out of durability in the middle of a fight and have to run down a non-PoFable weapon.

    Honestly, I've had a lot easier time making awesome stuff for my sampire than my tamer -- all the taming-related stuff was nerfed pretty hardcore for imbuing with the introduction of weights, but all the important sampire stuff (HSL, HML, HLA, SSI, HCI, DCI, DI, Stam, Dex, and HP) were pretty much left alone.
     
  20. Gurb

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    Awesome information Guum, thank you very much. Getting a list together of all the ingredients I'll need and will hit up an imbuer tonight!
     
  21. Flinx

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    As a real beginner in the Sampire business i´d like to buy a decent named weapon. Some (minor)arti. Can someone name one as a single target weapon wich is usefull and doesn´t normaly cost over a mil?

    thx a lot!
     
  22. One was named in the part you quoted. Soul Seeker.
     
  23. Flinx

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    Yes, and when you read the entire quote it says you need TWO starter weapons. One AoE and one single target. The Soul Seekrer was the advice for the AoE and i´m looking for a single target ...

    For sure you can use the soul seeker als single also, but probably an experienced Sampire has a better solution ...
     
  24. You asked about a named wep (meaning artifact) for use with a Sampire. Soul Seeker is the only one that has both the stam and mana leeches. If you're looking for something else to use, then it's time to start burning runic hammers like the rest of us did.
     
  25. Flinx

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    Ok, thx for that answer.

    So i´ve to jump a bit deeper in the topic and will start to look for the single weapon intensities. My hope was, that i only had to look for a named and get a decent one without to much search...
     
  26. guum

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    If you have an imbuer or have a friend who is an imbuer, you can make one cheaply enough. Start with a looted (or made with low-end runic hammer) weapon with 25 or 30 SSI. Imbue DI to 45. Imbue HML to 90% of max. Imbue HSL to 90% of max. Total cost in mats to a legendary imbuer should be around 100k -- just enchanted essence, residue, and gems you can buy from an NPC jeweler. You could have them imbue SSI too if you don't want to bother with finding a weapon with it, but then you'll have to hunt down (and pay for) relic fragments.

    edit: oh, and be sure to apply fortifying powder to the item to get it up to 255 max durability first since you can't powder after it's been imbued. Powder's expensive these days, so that'll probably cost another 150k there.
     
  27. Jander

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    Hey, Conner I'm on Pac. Would you Imbue 2 Uber Twinks for me?
     
  28. If you can bring me the ingredients, sure. I haven't gotten around to farming for individual ingredients yet. My imbuer is 120 though, so no issue doing it.
     
  29. Jander

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    Awesome. Can you PM me with a list of exactly what you need and I'll let you know when I have gotten it all.
     
  30. Actually, I just checked my backstock containers and found I had one sampire Twink left from one of the runic hammers I burned a while back. It's not imbued, so you won't have to worry about replacing it. I just put it on my crafting vendor for 2m if you're interested. My vendor house is Hunter's Haven in Zento. If you don't want it then I'd still be more than happy to make some imbued ones for ya. To make a standard sampire twink, it takes relic fragments, void orbs, essence of control, and enchanted essence.
     
  31. Jander

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    I'd like to try some imbued ones. So for 1 twink, how many of each ingredient? Do you need a base weapon too?
     
  32. Minimum of 5 relic frags, 20 void orbs, 10 essence of control, and 20 enchanted essence. That's if there are zero failures in trying to imbue, so of course you'd need some extras to account for failures.
     
  33. Jander

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    I don't have SA yet so I have to buy them from vendors.
     
  34. Stupid Miner

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    Depends on which you need more: to hit them, or for them to not hit you.
    Vs. a heavy hitting opponent I'd suggest HLA. Or just get Mace and Shield glasses and you get the best of both.
     
  35. Stupid Miner

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    Extra frags and enchanted essences, rare ingreds still aren't lost, right?
     
  36. Oh yes they are. Unless something has changed that I don't know about.
     
  37. Gurb

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    Rare ingredients are lost. Took me 10 relics to put LMC on a bracelet last night.
     
  38. Ender

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    By rare ingredients he means like crystalline blackrock and boura pelts and junk.