Sad to see that thread locked, it was rather humorous but lets explore this further. First and foremost, I think the real discussion behind all this is consumables vs skills...and the obvious choice should be that consumable items cannot be better than their skill-related counterparts. That's the bottom line regarding bolas...does anyone object to this line of thought? Revan's argument regarding bola's requiring "mana" to use the item effectively I think is totally mute. What part of swinging a bola and targeting "requires" mana? Teleporting afterwards to maintain range is a tactic that is "used" but certainly not required. Scenario: Lets take a regular mage (non-parry), typically runs 120-150 mana, teleport spell takes 9 mana (6 mana with 40 LMC and 5 mana with 55 LMC). That's 10% (or less) of your mana used for dismount (2 teles)...which is what you're saying is "required" to use your bola. Now take 35 mana for a weapon special dismount, even if you have 300 wep skill for argument's sake, that's 25 mana total. @40 LMC = 10 mana, @55 LMC = 13 mana. Since you're saying most dexer/archers run close to 100 mana, that's 13% mana cost to dismount using a skill...and its not even 100% chance. Looking at these rough estimates and using your argument, how can you justify a consumable costing less mana (%) than a skill and also gives a 100% chance to dismount???