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Book-Litter Ads Spam, gone?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Jade of Sonoma, Apr 12, 2013.

  1. Jade of Sonoma

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    Has something been done to stop the Book- Littering and other Advertising of outside websites in UO?

    Were they selling DUPED ITEMS that can be detected now? lol Sorry if I missed something. But NOT seeing those books or listenting to them spam over the chat line, is a relief!
     
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    It's quiet...too quiet.
     
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    Can't we just ban those ****ing pieces of monkey ****ing **** from playing our game? Seriously, **** off you utter pieces of water-buffalo dung.
     
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    I suspect, sadly, that it's more to do with a new client having been published. It often takes a few days for the botters to update their programs to work again because the client desynchs with whatever it is they're using in the first place.

    While the peace will be nice, I doubt it's permanent.
     
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    Is Plague gone too?
     
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    Was insulting water-buffalo dung really called for!? It at least has the benefit of being fertilizer. Sheesh!... :rolleyes:
     
  7. MalagAste

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    Ra'Dian is correct they can't run their 3rd party ap's shortly after the publish.... I suspect the leaflitter will be back tomorrow...... sadly.

    I seriously wish they had a way to stop that.
     
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  8. Jade of Sonoma

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    Water Buffalo Dung is useful. At least it fertilizes the earth so plants can grow. HAHA I love your post hen. Obviously you feel much like I do about this issue.

    YES PEACE! I wondered if it was only a temporary thing due to the recent publish. So thanks for the explaination. I won't be hoping in vain for miracles! I'll simply enjoy the peace while it lasts.

    Don't we all wish, Tjalle.

    TIP: A friend who does pick up and dispose of books when time permits, occasionally helps Plague take a rest by transporting him via gates to various destinations but PLague would return through those gates so: He told me to mark a rune at the top of steep staircases on the outside East Wall of houses or shops which Plaque can't fall off. Plague can't return through gate by taking steps back and forth, thus can be stuck between the door and rail for the rest of the day.

    That's funny Tanivar! haha I replied to hen before I read your post.


    What would help though, is for individuals and groups of players to schedule times taking turns picking up all the books then dump them in the trash or sell them to provisioners far away from the LUNA bank and the bank/provisioner in Haven.

    But that isn't what anyone should be expected to do because we pay to play this game. I've been doing it off and on for years They never go away.

    Anyhow enjoy PEACE while it lasts everyone!

    ps It helps knowing others feel the same way!
     
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  9. RaDian FlGith

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    Definitely not just you. I occasionally run through Luna picking them up as the appear too. Never thought of gating him somewhere though... being a mage, I'm going to have to try that, should he return.
     
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    they should make those worth turn in points!!
     
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    The spam in Help Chat mess up many conversations with new players, its sooo annoying. It gives a wrong impression about UO as well.
     
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    I would like to make a request pertaining to books that are dropped on the ground in Luna and at the moongates. Make the books a stationary creature that has one hit point. This would allow me to flamestrike or fireball any book I see while banking.
     
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    I just alter the URLs and ICQ numbers in the books.....
     
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  14. MalagAste

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    I sometimes would go on my inscriptionist and turn all his books dropped into our RP community recruitment books...... following him around changing all his books....

    Typically though I pick them up. I recently cleaned out all my characters backpacks and was surprised at how many of those things some of my characters were holding. I find it disgusting the amount of spam and litter this person creates. I rather like the idea of calling for a clean up and gating the jerk somewhere .......
     
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    If you "encourage" them, they even make home deliveries... ;)
    (too bad I still haven't found a way to bring them over to Felucca...)
    [​IMG]
     
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    couldnt you gate in front of a teletile the goes to fel
     
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  18. MalagAste

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    No they still get the warning message I think..... And what to do about the idiot spammer in Haven???
     
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    Shoot the damn thing! hehe I wish... I have gone on many shards and the first thing you see is luna and the areas coated in litter... i grab all i run across and toss. I have picked up thousands of books over the years and tossed them in the dumpster...
     
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    Unfortunately no, like MalagAste wrote, they still get the warning message. I managed to bring the girl right on to the house teleporter tile on the stairs which leads to a house in felucca and nothing happened... it did not even derail the script.

    (btw., the owner of the house involved here has nothing to do with my "tests"! ;) )
     
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    sonoma is back not one minute and already books are being dropped *shakes her head sadly*
     
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    Simple fix: make books decay in 10 seconds or so.
     
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    Too bad they might have to since this was a good way to get recruits for RP community and such..... but I may be inclined to agree....... either that or flag any account buying more than 20 books.... resulting in an immediate GM page...... let the GM see the bot and toss them in jail ban the account.


    Oh wait we don't have GM's.
     
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  24. Jade of Sonoma

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    :thumbup:
    I cast a few gates in front of one of the Robots to a heavy spawn area in Destard Dungeon. He kept coming back through the gate. After a few more tries, he didn't make it. I think the spawn got him.

    ... and what to do about the chat messages ?


    Spiritless, that is an extremely good, highly spirited, constructive idea!! :hug::applaud:
    The Robots place moonbooks at every moongate in Felucca and every Shrine, but only stand in the moongates where they are safe so wouldn't walk through a moongate that anyone placed there. Meanwhile, there are always Trammel dungeons and horrendous spawn but you need to cast two or three gates to different spots or close to the spots so they return from one gate and walk into another (so I am told)

    OH OH Miri of Sonoma has reported - -

    This is pathetique. We can lessen the pain by trying to diminish the litter and knowing that your efforts are appreciated even if seemingly in vain. UO is seriously a reflection of the real world. ...Cheer up everyone! Call it cleaning up stagnent waters so mosquitos won't have breeding grounds <<< something like that.


    - - will pick up some books while taking a rest break from real life ..
     
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  25. MalagAste

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    I picked up a few and dumped them on some corpses in Exodus Dungeon earlier... but it seems like futile waste of my time.
     
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    Spoke too soon kiddos just grabbed a bunch off oirigin and dumped them.....
     
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    I know it is a futile waste of time so only do it when you have time to waste. *hugs*
     
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    He's ALWAYS in Luna.. On EVERY shard I'm currently on. WHY!?
     
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    You'd think Plague was an obvious enough target a GM would just ban that account. Someone getting a little gold under the table?
     
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    I like sending Plauge to random cities and dungeons. It is quite comical to send him to a bloody death.
     
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    I like to trade items with the spammer in New haven, for some reason he won't take any item and just sits there doing nothing being very quiet for a long time.

    Sent from my Galaxy Note 2
     
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    I am uncertain as to why these bots are ignored. Having said that....These guys aren't doing this out of dedication. They persist because they make a profit. Those who buy from them don't admit it on these forums but I'd say a substantial portion of the community must utilize these sites or they would go out of business quickly. No one would be selling drugs if there weren't users.....

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    If you see the person dropping books, page on them using the help physical harassment form. I've never had a gm take longer than 10 minutes responding to one of these pages. Sure they'll just start a new trial account, but occasionally you'll hit an account that has a lot of goods stored on it. This hurts them. Also the book droppers are not bots. They are real people running them and sometimes you can get them to talk. I've done this a couple of times and had them admit their items are duped.

    Also you can follow the suspicious looking characters around. You can spot them because they mostly use the same name template which I am not allowed to further describe on these boards. If you are lucky, you can catch them duping and transfering goods. Their security is sloppy, and I have intercepted a lot of items because they are too lazy to use the trade window. I take their items and drop them in the trash for clean-up points.

    This has become an interesting battle for me. They are getting smarter and altering their patterns, sometimes sending up to half a dozen decoys to distract. The decoys mostly dress like Plague now, though that's how they all used to be dressed.

    I am battling them on Napa. We don't have to accept these cheaters ruining our game by driving prices through the roof (the result of flooding our shards with duped gold at 35 cents per million). If those who pick up books will just page, we can make this unprofitable for them. It is apparent we are going to get no help from the devs, and we are just going to have to police this ourselves. But isn't that what Garriot intended from the start?

    Join me in my fight and let's crush these cheaters.
     
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    I have always been somewhat skeptical of the claims that these sites are responsible for the insane inflation. Certainly they dump tons of gold into the economy that would devalue gold and make an item more expensive.

    However gold isn't all they offer and dump into the game. Since anyone that would like....say.....a 120 scroll of whatever can get one for sure ..no fight....no drop ratios...no doubts... I would be inclined to think this would make that scroll cheaper by increasing the number available.

    Another example would be soul stones. If they were only available as vet reward and not sold in Origin store, would they not be way more rare and thus way more expensive in game? When I need another soul stone I buy from origin. Thus saving a vet reward pick for something I can't obtain cheaply from origin.

    I am not an economist so maybe I'm way off. Nor am I defending or endorsing sites. Just curious about the cause and effect on prices.

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  35. Jade of Sonoma

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    Varingian, you have the same question many have. There must be a reason for the Rules of Conduct for UO against outside websites selling accounts/in-game items for real money. Only legal authentic UO Websites should be able to make money off this game. It doesn't matter much to me because the challenge in this game is building skills that will give me the power to earn what I need so I can trade with or buy from other players in the game.

    Now - - in keeping on topic - -

    Look what I came across a few minutes ago! :rofl:

    [​IMG]
    Plague going nowhere

    (obviously he can't open doors)
     
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    No Books scattered tonight on Sonoma?


    [​IMG]

    I ran past another trapped Plague


    How many Plagues are there?
     
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    It depends on whether dupers are creating more gold or more items. I'm inclined to think more gold than anything, because gold is of course the universal medium of exchange, but -- without going into details -- it's also the easiest thing for dupers to launder. With the exchange ratios I understand these sites want, it's cheaper to buy the gold, then use the gold to buy an item in-game. Disclaimer: I also do not condone any of the sits or what they do. I'm just giving a quick observation as a trained economist.

    It's hard to say with soulstones. It depends on players' preferences that nobody can predict, since we have no real data. For all we know, we could see just as many soulstones, but fewer of other vet rewards, perhaps an increase in the price of soulstone fragments.
     
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    You already have an option available to you. If you have a human character, copy roleplaying books with interesting player content. Then you can use the inscribe skill (human jack of all trades if you don't have a scribe) and copy over the dropped books with something meaningful to the game. I suppose they could invest in orange petals to prevent this, but as far as I know, they don't do this at the moment.
     
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    Red Leaves, sable :)
     
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    Books were back on Origin 2 or 3 nights ago...blah book spam.
     
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    Right, red leaves. :D
     
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    It´s getting a bit silly now...

    On Atlantic this evening. Two were resting while the third were making the usual round.


    [​IMG]
     
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    Can nothing be done to end this plague of Plagues?
     
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    there is, small patch EVERY day, just a small code change will kill 3rd party programs forever (so I am told)
     
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    HAHA I love how you said that. Perfect description. I tried building a house and having special jails in it so I could send them all to my Prison .. and I marked runes to the inner jail rooms which would give the Plague no room to move .. BUT I forgot you can't gate anyone into the house and thus the gate ends up outside the house. So .. no use doing that. I am looking for public buildings with stairs outside.
     
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    Well there is the one in Haven... but really don't like them there. I might suggest Yew Prison or how about Bucs Dens rooms that the GM's use..... maybe a GM will find them there? Or look at the Prison in Trinsic.
     
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    I've suggested this before. If the DEV's put out a tiny publish everyday for a month or more.... perhaps that would discourage them enough to make some of them move on.

    Though after a week or so it may encourage them to speed up their own patch process..... but is it not worth a try?
     
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    That is why I was trying to make a house with prisons inside from which Plague and his various counterparts cannot escape. I hope others are taking note on other shards of your suggestions. Those photos I posted are in HAVEN buildings and I fear the escort service to the Mapmaker may be compromised so New Locations are required. Thanks for your suggestions. There is a fellow on Sonoma who is going to check and mark those and others spots. Right now I have to deal with a busy real life.
     
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    "A Plague on both your houses!"
     
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    You slay me, lady!! :lol:

    The following is a SPOILER:

    Here's THREE PERFECT TRAPS; each on only ONE TILE.
    Not only will Plague get stuck, ithe spots are safe for anyone to use.

    These can only be accessed by teleporting to the spots and marking runes.

    Walk the Path on top of TRINSIC CITY WALLS encompassing Trinsic City.
    Teleport from the path to the grass inside the moat and walk around it. Look for Grass strips big enough to walk along which are often found hidden behind the Moat's Walls where you can't see them - but will see the end of them when you come to where the Walls turn South. From those strips of grass, teleport to small grassy spots taking up one tile only. These are found on either side of the water. (During the invasions, Rioters were stuck inside the Moat ongrassy spots.}
     
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