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Bucs Server Line Petition *please sticky*

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Hail Satan, Sep 20, 2009.

  1. Hail Satan

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    EA has had plenty of time and money to make new expansions, lands and facets (Trammel rules, unfortunately). Any half assed PvPer knows that server lines are a severe problem, especially in the notorious PvP bank, Bucs Den. However, not as famous as it once used to be, it is still a pinnacle symbol for combat. A modest tune-up for the Den is years overdue.

    Now, if you spend any time in Fel, or even T-Hunting in Trammel, you can tell anyone exactly where this abortion runs right through the middle of town. It seems to be placed in the most perverse section on the entire island. Running right up the middle, half a screen away from the first bridge and landing on the very end the the last two, making PvP here very controversial to say the least.

    Cowards of every generation of Ultima have used this server line as a crutch. The Bucs Den is a legendary landmark and city within Sosaria that symbolizes the perfect eight letter word; Murderer.

    Now, really, how hard would it be to copy a landmass, delete it, and move it over a few screen lengths? There's a moongate there, so ultimately any rune that would be voided could be easily remarked. No one 8x8's anymore, so it becoming an obstruction in a clear line of water isn't an issue.

    I feel that if enough people sign/reply to this petition then we could send a clear message to EA that, for all the harm they have done to us Murderers, the least they could do is clean up a bastion for PvP.

    I don't know about your server, but on mine we still have fights in Bucs Den.

    Lastly, this is something I don't think would receive a negative response from any player, no matter what your facet affiliation is or who you do or do not like in game for any reason.

    Thanks for "signing" in advance.

    -Sirehade
     
  2. Fluffi

    Fluffi Slightly Crazed
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    As much as I agree with you, I couldn't possibly second a proposal made by someone with a diabolical forum name. rolleyes:
     
  3. Barry Gibb

    Barry Gibb Of Saintly Patience
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    Relocating Buc's Den would be a giant waste of time and resources.

    However, adding content to the game is not. Try to brainstorm some suggestions for additional PvP content, perhaps a non-faction, un-guarded city on the mainland.

    Stayin Alive,

    BG
     
  4. legendsguy

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    -agrees with fluffi-
     
  5. Dermott of LS

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    I would not expect server lines to be moved anytime sooner or later.
     
  6. It Lives

    It Lives Lore Master
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    I agree move the land mass.

    If they can remove haven and replace it/part of, they can do this.
     
  7. Rocklin

    Rocklin Guest

    This guy has been around for years and has been run off many times from Sonoma. He looks to create problems and not solve them. That is about as civil in tone as I can be to describe him.
     
  8. MasterP

    MasterP Guest

    This is a easy fix. Take all guard zones out of Felucca. Then make it so if you flag from inside a house you are kicked out. Make it so if you fight back (cast a spell or hit with a special) that you cant run into a house. Make it so reds can travel to the "candyland" Trammel. No you will not be able to attack there but why punish me from all the cool new dung's because i have more balls them trammies? This would be a good fix.
     
  9. Cardell

    Cardell Lore Keeper
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    This is the first time someone complained about this.. Reeally..

    No one, EVER tried to petition this.. NEVER... thank you for doing it.



    Yes.. that was sarcastic..

    It sucks, its part of the game, but you have to face the music. The devs dont like pvpers and could care less..
     
  10. kelmo

    kelmo Old and in the way
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    Naw... They just hate Buc's den. By the way... They could nuke Buc's on my shard and the only ones to notice would be the folks that look for that rock on occasion.
     
  11. QueenZen

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    Hey now, some few of us go fishing off Bucs Den pier ya know, on Siege. I would miss Bucs Den.

    Be nice if SOME CENTURY, they would fix server line issues there too ...
    but it has never happened in all these years sooooooo doubt if they ever will resolve that issue, regarding Bucs Den.
     
  12. Viquire

    Viquire Crazed Zealot
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    Draconi either said it in here or at the Austin Town Hall in 07. At one time, this was actually looked at as a serious project with the objective being to relocate the landmass to an area near but without a bisecting server line.

    I can't remember exactly what the problem they found was, but it was technical and insurmountable. Maybe he can chime in on the morrow.
     
  13. canary

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    LOL with all of the ACTUAL ISSUES that need tended to in this game, for the love of god you did NOT ask for this thread to be stickied on stratics, did you? LOL rolleyes:
     
  14. UOKaiser

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    Oh no if your reds are allowed to travel to candyland you will become trammie while in candyland and you will only have the same balls as them.
    Then you will be insulting your self that doesn't sound good.
     
  15. Lord Frodo

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    Almost forgot, in before SnR.
     
  16. Clog|Mordain

    Clog|Mordain Lore Master
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    Moving server lines would be out of the question. But making it so that people cannot cross the server line while "flagged" would help the situation. They already have a similar thing in place with being unable to recall due to being flagged for combat. It wouldnt be to hard to tweak that to suit server lines aswell I'm guessing.
     
  17. SchezwanBeefy

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    Not saying anything about what SHOULD be done because I really don't know how hard it would be to do, but I do agree and I hope this can be fixed as well. I don't think it's a bad idea and I don't know why people are complaining about it when it's not going to harm their game play. In fact, it'll only help game play.
     
  18. Hail Satan

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    Point being, if the good people who have already read this post haven't already figured out, momentum begins in small doses.

    I thought of the smallest engineering project that could use a bit of Dev on PvP love and am seeing how many people rally to the cause. If the rock could get pushed down the hill starting with a Bucs Den fix, who knows what could happen next.

    We all know that our Fel facets need massive overhaul, but propositions to this problem in a complete fix have been flat out ignored.

    We have to start small and increase the "nudge" if we want our overall goal to succeed.

    If you believe in what I'm saying, it's not hard to just simply type "I Agree" instead of reasons why other things deserve more attention; which this thread - hopefully - will ultimately get at in the end. A PvP voice which has not been heard since pub16.
     
  19. Capt.E

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    Yes, the server lines in buc's den stink. So your solution is to move the landmass. By doing this you think pvp will return to buc's den? My guess is that it will not. They will go to Brit gate where there is another convergence of server lines close by. Then you petition for that one to be fixed and where does it end?? There has to be server lines, remember 98?(tons of crashes due to server overload) It's a shame you are fighting a bunch of cowards, but they will remain cowards and go somewhere else to use underhanded tactics.
     
  20. Oczko

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    I really dont care about the server line thing. If you want to do something awesome make it so that when a player attacks someone from inside a house that they are combat flagged for two minutes and kicked out of the house.

    Nothing pisses me off more than a group of people fighting from inside a house. I mean if you're to scared to come out of the house and fight then you should not be allowed to fight from inside it.
     
  21. MorganaLeFey

    MorganaLeFey Guest

    Hmm, I like malt balls. Now ya making me hungry.

    Oh yeah, it would not sound or look so good if he insults himself and, himself answers back. LOL THEN, it would be grounds for the looney bin in a straight jacket. LOL
     
  22. MorganaLeFey

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    Hmm, I like malt balls. Now ya making me hungry.

    Oh yeah, it would not sound or look so good if he insults himself and, himself answers back. LOL THEN, it would be grounds for the looney bin in a straight jacket. LOL

    Oh and, fix the server line. Fix PvP. Fix Factions, Fix, fix, fix...
     
  23. Hail Satan

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    A simple fix to Brit Gate server lines is to fight at Yew.

    Bucs Den is small enough that movement would not be an issue.

    I also agree that a flag and kick from a house would be a great idea.
     
  24. Gellor

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    Given the irrelevance of Buc's den since EA allowed reds to bank anywhere in Fel, I see no reason to touch Buc unless it was some after hour pet project. There is no real reason to head to bucs anymore short of getting a rock or praying to miss people while banking;)

    But I agree in the old days, the server lines there SUCKED.