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Buying/Selling/Giving away accounts

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Flutter, Apr 1, 2012.

  1. Flutter

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    Legal or illegal now?
    I recall a uo.com update during the account migration giving me the impression (if not outright saying) that the transfer of accounts between players was illegal.
     
  2. kelmo

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    ORIGIN - Ultima Online - Main
     
  3. kelmo

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    You can not legally sell accounts. It will not be allowed here on Stratics.
     
  4. Flutter

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    Thank you kelmo that's the way I understood it.
     
  5. kelmo

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    Lady Flutter. We may disagree on a thing or two. I will always value you as a friend first and an outstanding player as well.
     
  6. Flutter

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    Darling I can disagree with someone and still consider them a friend. If all my friends and I agreed on everything it would make for quite boring conversations don't you think?
     
  7. kelmo

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    Any that disagree... read all that boring crap you agreed to. If you have an account, you agreed to that.
     
  8. kelmo

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    *smiles*
     
  9. Prime.

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    Why's it illegal if you can sell/trade/buy accounts via the EA account transfer?

    Or am I misunderstanding how that account transfer works.
     
  10. kelmo

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    That whole deal is gone. You can not sell accounts.
     
  11. kelmo

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    Legally anyway. And never here on Stratics.
     
  12. Warpig Inc

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    Like most big words used in small print, legalieze. Covers their butt on any failing of their product or how they present it, that may give you discomfort. With the free sites / sales sites out their having free range. Due to the $$$$$ they never go after them. Just never know when they shoot the suits at you to make an example out of you to others.

    Also tells you they paid some suits to make up all those big words in small print. Dont want you pasting and using on your own game or selling a few word changes of it to someone else.

    We don't own one pixel. They gladly charge us to borrow them. Someday the Code Mages and the Bean Counters will press brain matter together and then there will be a real game.
     
  13. Tina Small

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    On January 6th, someone asked Jeff Skalski on Twitter if the account transfer service was still around and his reply was, "The service currently does not exist."
     
  14. Sevin0oo0

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    As written, it seemed to me that it was illegal, also including giving an account to someone. So if someone got hacked bad, and someone else offered to give them a spare account they weren't using, illegal, also to do on the boards i guess. give sell assign? not just accounts but i think that includes game time codes now as well.

    I think a rewrite/revert is needed, sounds like a twitter session to me
     
  15. Tina Small

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    If you're in North America, at least, it looks like you now have several options for paying for game time codes (one-, three-, and six-month versions) and anything else available from the Origin store: EA Cash Card, five types of credit/debit cards, something called ClickandBuy, and PayPal. I remember reading that some people were having trouble using credit or debit cards to buy the game time codes, so hopefully one of the other options will work for them so they don't have to try to buy them anymore using game gold.
     
  16. Aurelius

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    Would help, though, if EA actually got their terms and conditions sorted out clearly - I too am pretty certain there's no way to transfer accounts legally any more, but they have some really poor wording in the ToS that could be read to imply there IS still a way - regarding terminated accounts,

    UO Terms of Service

    (2) YOU WILL NOT HAVE ACCESS TO ANY CHARACTERS DEVELOPED OR ITEMS ACCUMULATED AND YOU WILL NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO TRANSFER, SELL OR ASSIGN ANY CHARACTERS OR ITEMS TO ANYONE ELSE ;

    Which would seem to imply in other cases, you DO have such a right .... For simple consistency, that condition should not be there.
     
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  17. O'Brien

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    Yeah, but remember we are talking about the same company that can't even put up its current game expansions/boosters on its Australian version of its webstore ;)
     
  18. Banner

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    So what you are saying is that I could not sell my account at all?? EA would rather me close my account down instead of transferring it to someone else so they can continue making money each month?? What part of that makes any sense??
     
  19. WootSauce

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    Well it is EA after all. On a different note they just won a very prestigious award by "The Consumerist" website beating out Bank of America in a 64% / 36% split (link below).

    The Voters Have Spoken: EA Is Your Worst Company In America For 2012! - The Consumerist
     
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