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Discussion in 'UHall' started by zackerybarber444, Feb 5, 2008.

  1. So, im semi-new to uo been playing nine months now, and sad to say im already leaving. I lost my luna house today (only had for 8 days now) to someone who sat there for a week scripting it. My guildmates kept telling me to stay, but when i paged a gm for this persons ILLEGAL scripting, all i got was a message saying "We'll look into it", well they are already to late as she has just sold my house, and on top of that after 9 hours i still havnt gotten anyword as to if its possible for me to even get it back. So if GM's dont care about their paying customers im just going to move on. I was recommended runescape but i dont know to much about that game right now!

    ~Farewall
     
  2. How in hell he scripted your house? Damn, need to get a script that lets me Steal houses!

    No really, you mean there was an IDOC and someone placed house faster then you? Because if there just was an IDOC it has never been your house.

    And if you had ur own house placed there, how could someone script it?
     
  3. Theo_GL

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    People have asked for some way to safely resize houses for years now. EA is too busy adding crap like fishtanks to the game to be bothered with things that take advantage of the playerbase.

    Sorry you got scammed out of your house. Hope you have better luck in the future.
     
  4. Voluntarily demolishing a Luna house is not a wise thing to do.

    Scripters need to go but EA does nothing.

    I agree. Time to quit.
     
  5. Potgut

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    do you mind telling me which house it was?
     
  6. Jirel of Joiry

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    zackerybarber444-
    What shard were you Playing on? Before you give up come to Legends I can setup up in a nice sized house with lots deco and minor arties and stuff! Heck I got four Accts worth of crap I can put you together a HECK of a Noobie starter kit!

    I hate it that we are losing new people because our shards are over run with greedy brokers, scripters etc. Everyone is worried about making a quick buck off of UO. The new attitude I see everday in UO is "Screw the game! I wanna make some quick real life MONEY off this" THIS attitude is WHAT IS REALLY KILLING UO! Wanna make a REAL difference people STOP PAYING REAL LIFE MONEY FOR ITEMS! If the "Brokers" can't get money for items the the Scripters/dupers/etc have no reason to do what they do. thus effective shutting down cheating in its tracks. I honestly believe the real anwser to stopping this is legislation. The gaming industry is 100% ineffective at policing itself, so it time we do it for them!

    My proposed legislation would make it illegal for a third party to sell virtual items or to purchase virtual items from a third party. EA,Blizzard, Lucas Arts would be allowed to sell codes BUT anyone else would be illegal. The other alternative is to sic the IRS on the third party broker and make them pay taxes on their income from these sales. Come now, do you REALLY think they are reporting 100% of the income made from these sales??

    Unfortunatly I see all MMORPGs going the way of UO, because of uncontrolled cheating, scripting, duping, etc.
     
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    zackerybarber444-
    What shard were you Playing on? Before you give up come to Legends I can setup up in a nice sized house with lots deco and minor arties and stuff! Heck I got four Accts worth of crap I can put you together a HECK of a Noobie starter kit!

    I hate it that we are losing new people because our shards are over run with greedy brokers, scripters etc. Everyone is worried about making a quick buck off of UO. The new attitude I see everday in UO is "Screw the game! I wanna make some quick real life MONEY off this" THIS attitude is WHAT IS REALLY KILLING UO! Wanna make a REAL difference people STOP PAYING REAL LIFE MONEY FOR ITEMS! If the "Brokers" can't get money for items the the Scripters/dupers/etc have no reason to do what they do. thus effective shutting down cheating in its tracks. I honestly believe the real anwser to stopping this is legislation. The gaming industry is 100% ineffective at policing itself, so it time we do it for them!

    My proposed legislation would make it illegal for a third party to sell virtual items or to purchase virtual items from a third party. EA,Blizzard, Lucas Arts would be allowed to sell codes BUT anyone else would be illegal. The other alternative is to sic the IRS on the third party broker and make them pay taxes on their income from these sales. Come now, do you REALLY think they are reporting 100% of the income made from these sales??

    Unfortunatly I see all MMORPGs going the way of UO, because of uncontrolled cheating, scripting, duping, etc.

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    Is there a "full moon" where you live?

    right now ... outside ... where you live
    up in the sky

    Full moon ... complete with the winking face ...
    That "tells you what to do ... think ..."

    just checking
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  8. Silly Seadog

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    Arrrrr, sailin' by them moon and stars done never led me aground!
     
  9. Babble

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    Have fun
     
  10. Guest

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    No ... not IDOC - Luna. If I recall his post elsewhere asking what could he do, he wanted and could support a larger plot where he was, so cleared things out, dropped and before he could place new, the person had placed.

    The persons name was in his other post (elsewhere) and on that shard is a known scripter. However, NOTHING has been done to deal with these situations. Said person was hidden, and part of the issue is that Detect Hidden ws not used before drop/place.

    It still does NOT excuse EA inaction on this issue.
     
  11. Guest

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    How did you get a luna house in 9 months of play? Sorry you lost it.
     
  12. Ava Reese

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    The house in question was owned by OSI and still had vendors. The house was in decay and dropped while it was still Slightly Worn just after server up. The OP was on at the time when house fell and was the first to get back with placement tool and get plot.
     
  13. Guest

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    Nice one. I should run luna for that. Too lazy.
     
  14. Guest

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    No ... not IDOC - Luna. If I recall his post elsewhere asking what could he do, he wanted and could support a larger plot where he was, so cleared things out, dropped and before he could place new, the person had placed.

    The persons name was in his other post (elsewhere) and on that shard is a known scripter. However, NOTHING has been done to deal with these situations. Said person was hidden, and part of the issue is that Detect Hidden ws not used before drop/place.

    It still does NOT excuse EA inaction on this issue.

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    If that is indeed the situation that occurred, then it is solely the fault of the owner that purposely redeeded their own house. Bottom line. Any scripting that may have occurred is besides the point.

    I’ve been on both side of this situation. I’ve placed a house when someone else tried to resize their plot. I was logged out at the IDOC and missed the fall. When I logged on the owner who placed at the IDOC was in the act of resizing, when they dropped their house I quickly placed(no scripting involved).

    On the flip size, when I wanted to resize a couple of my houses in the past, I took steps against situations such as this. I made an effort to train up tracking to an appropriate amount to check for any possible hidden characters near by. On at least 2 instances that could have saved my house because of hidden people near by. I’m not sure if they were waiting on me redeeding or not, but better safe than sorry.

    I don’t see resizing houses as cost effective or beneficial enough to spend R&amp;D on creating a secure house resize ability. Some might argue Risk vs. Reward, some might point out common sense, some might even say of the placer ‘right place, right time’. Ultimately the owner made the conscious decision to drop the house.
     
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    Voluntarily demolishing a Luna house is not a wise thing to do.

    Scripters need to go but EA does nothing.

    I agree. Time to quit.

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    yah
    guess your greed got the better of you. lol ( all luna houses should burn)
    game policy is to NOT REPLACE ANY ITEM PERIOD !
    i don't see how this has anything to do with scripting, you can't even prove the person scripted you doing something ignorant, placeing a house is easy you DO NOT NEED A SCRIPT TO DO IT.

    it's getting really annoying people blaming there INABILITY's on a text file AKA script.. lol

    all you people are doing is drawing MORE attention to that playstyle, thus more will try it. kinda counter productive to your so called cause isn't it ?
     
  16. Well actually, i can guarentee its called scripting as I logged outside my house hidden the day before i was going to resize, logged right where i was going to place the housesign 18 hours later logged back in still hidden. So how did she know i was there in that little time? obviously she didn't, so i really wouldnt call it my fault losing it as it was placed illegally, and she is a well known scriptor thats the 4th luna house shes scripted now? and this is just in luna but if i need to find out how many castles im pretty sure i can get a decent number! But they're have been numerous complaints about this woman and her husband scripting and the gm's still refuse to take any action!
     
  17. Kith Kanan

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    soooo you was foolish enough to announce , by clearing out everything , that you was about to demolish a luna house , and get mad when someone places there before you can place your new house ????
     
  18. Guest

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    <blockquote><hr>

    No ... not IDOC - Luna. If I recall his post elsewhere asking what could he do, he wanted and could support a larger plot where he was, so cleared things out, dropped and before he could place new, the person had placed.

    The persons name was in his other post (elsewhere) and on that shard is a known scripter. However, NOTHING has been done to deal with these situations. Said person was hidden, and part of the issue is that Detect Hidden ws not used before drop/place.

    It still does NOT excuse EA inaction on this issue.

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    Even if the guy did script to place its still his fault for dropping the house we all know the risk of dropping a house and trying to replace it
     
  19. Guest

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    Well actually, i can guarentee its called scripting as I logged outside my house hidden the day before i was going to resize, logged right where i was going to place the housesign 18 hours later logged back in still hidden. So how did she know i was there in that little time? obviously she didn't, so i really wouldnt call it my fault losing it as it was placed illegally, and she is a well known scriptor thats the 4th luna house shes scripted now? and this is just in luna but if i need to find out how many castles im pretty sure i can get a decent number! But they're have been numerous complaints about this woman and her husband scripting and the gm's still refuse to take any action!

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    theres a simple reason why they have done nothing too.In order to take action they have to be able to prove she /he is scripting.And since scripts arent like dupes and only esigned to make your char do stuff in game you can do your self its hard as hell to prove.Unless of course there unattended then thats a diffrent story but if there there your wasting your time.
     
  20. Guest

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    Oh yeah almost forgot .Can i have your stuff?
     
  21. Guest

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    Well actually, i can guarentee its called scripting as I logged outside my house hidden the day before i was going to resize, logged right where i was going to place the housesign 18 hours later logged back in still hidden. So how did she know i was there in that little time? obviously she didn't, so i really wouldnt call it my fault losing it as it was placed illegally, and she is a well known scriptor thats the 4th luna house shes scripted now? and this is just in luna but if i need to find out how many castles im pretty sure i can get a decent number! But they're have been numerous complaints about this woman and her husband scripting and the gm's still refuse to take any action!

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    You should have had someone track to determine if there was anyone hidden. I would have scheduled this for server up with a few trusted friends.
     
  22. Guest

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    I'm sorry to hear this happened. Trying to replace a luna plot is something that is often not recommended. Basically you have to sit on it for three+ months, while working tracking and detect hidden up. Decorate the house, put in vendors. Track for animals, monsters, people for 10-20 minutes at a very low pop time. Have two computers going so you can drop on one and place on the other, logging in and out is too slow. Maybe have a *very* trusted friend there to help in case there are problems.

    It's a big ol beacon to script placers (and non script placers) that a plot is getting dropped and replaced when there are no vendors, no one has bothered to customize, and esp if it is a luna house that is smaller than it could be, or it's a newly placed keep in a castle spot, etc etc. You have to have patience.

    Right now I can't blame you if you want to quit. You are pissed because in 9 months of playing a luna plot was most likely the most money you ever made in one shot (well, equity wise if not bank balance wise). To lose it to someone who was most likely cheating is...really frustrating. But to be fair, you didn't have the sucker a month ago and you were happy playing the game. If there are still things that you like about the game I would reassess and keep going, and consider it a lesson learned. If you're completely soured on the game...I can't blame you. Cheaters have a way of doing that. =/

    Anyways, good luck to you in whatever you end up doing.
     
  23. IronHorse

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    Before I draw any opinion on this matter I have a question that I would like to ask you.
    How in a short period of 9 months did you manage to build an acct up to a point that allowed you to aquire a Luna plot in the first place?
     
  24. Guest

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    Before I draw any opinion on this matter I have a question that I would like to ask you.
    How in a short period of 9 months did you manage to build an acct up to a point that allowed you to aquire a Luna plot in the first place?

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    If you read teh rest of the thread you would see how he got it =)~
     
  25. well i never put anything in it in the first place because i had a keep and wouldnt be able to fit everything in that 8x8 i did place before i tried to resize so i didnt give everyone a announcement by "clearing everything out of the house" and on top of that i didnt annoce to anyone I'm resizing my house! i told a friend who wasnt in guild so they mustve been a stealther around when i told him. And again i say it wasnt my fault to losing this house because it was tooken illegally! this post wouldnt have even started if EA could manage there game and find a way to prevent scriptors, hackers etc. or make a safe way to re-size houses without the risk of people taking it whether they were there or not
     
  26. wanderer1origin

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    did u like, game before this happened if so keep playing!!! you hit high on rng but hit low on rng also play enjoy! all my tons have placement tools on them never no what will come up!
     
  27. Guest

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    Perhaps the house placed on the empty spot where your house used to be was placed be illegal scripting.

    But I have legally stealthed, been in the right spot at the right time, and placed when someone was doing just as you did.
    I was stealthing &amp; I heard guildies talking publically (no party chat, no whispering - which also allowed me to hear a lot of curse words thrown at me after the event). I wasn't paying much attention as I thought the odds would be low that I could outplace anyway. I even left the area. But I walked back by just as the house was dropped and was able to place a new one in its place.
    So it has happened without any cheating involved. I felt bad about it actually, yet not too bad as we had both tried to place on that spot when it originally became available (the other player beat me by placing a small house. But then I ended up with the land when the attempted upgrade happened that same night).This was not in Luna.

    Sorry about the situation. It looks like it has you down enough to quit playing. I've had events make me feel like leaving UO as well but I am kind of stubborn about letting cheaters run me off. There will always be some unexpected upsets in UO; but the beauty of it is that there will be many exciting happenings too. Hey, you have a keep! UO-Life with a keep is not bad at all. G'luck.
     
  28. you're leaving at the wrong time.