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Cal_Mythic could you look into this when you got the time please.....

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Lady Storm, May 4, 2011.

  1. Lady Storm

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    I know this might take some serious coding and time and thank you for looking btw.

    Years ago when rune books were first introduced the system treated them like spell books and allowed you to have open multiples. This made it very easy for my Scribe to make sure she droped the rune into the right book. Do you think we could get that back?

    Secondly with spellbooks the old way had the scroll show up as you put them in and you could see them being added to the list in the book. This changed a few years ago with a fix for something totaly unrelated to spellbooks. This would make it so much easer if you could return this function back as well.

    Thirdly I'd relly like to be able to drop a bod on a locked down bodbook, it would be super if this was possible... if its not too much trouble taking them out the same way would be peachy keen as well. You dont know how hard it is to work with a full book and strip your char of every thing just to get a bod out! P.S. I know this is asking alot... how about making the book 1 lockdown. it would cut back on demands for more room by the smiths and tailors out there....
     
  2. Jhym

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    I'd love to be able to access locked-down bod books in our houses. It would make organizing and pulling them out for use much simpler. As it is, I have to keep multiple books with smaller groupings just so I can actually access them on my characters without constantly dropping things.

    They will never make them 1 lockdown, by the way, because they don't want us hoarding millions of them. I think the current system works, though I'd like them to drop the item to bod count on the books to 10/1 or 20/1.
     
  3. neptune1369

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    while you at it. Would it be to much to ask for muti-page runebooks?
     
  4. claudia-fjp

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    That is hands down one of the best UO ideas I've ever read.
     
  5. Taylor

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    Describe a multi-page runebook?
     
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    The set up would be the same as a normal book you write in. You can click the pages to go to page three and beyond.
     
  7. Dermott of LS

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    ...

    I'm quite fond of our EC version... all the locations in the book in a nice table with the needed spell options listed below as well as the coordinates. Go with the custom UIs and you get the "Legacy Runebook" option as well which gives you the best of both worlds, the "look" of the Legacy client with the interface of the EC as so:

    [​IMG]
     
  8. Viquire

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    personally I wish there were just some way to reorder the runes in a book without having to extract them all and re-enter them.
     
  9. claudia-fjp

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    Runebooks and spellbooks are almost identical in design. Open a full spellbook, 4 pages of spells then the details of each one where as a runebook is only 1 page then the details. So ideally a multi-page runebook would be one that holds more than the current 1 page of 16 piddly runes. Half my backpack is full of damn runebooks.
     
  10. Lady Storm

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    I must agree that idea of a mult page rune book would come in very handy... it would reduce the number of books in my characters packs. My son is always commenting that I carry on a few the full libary of uo!
    Ok ill conseed that the Dev wont make bodbooks 1 lock down but that 10 / 1 ratio is alot better numbers wise. I see I am not alone in the strip down to get a bod out of a full book routine!
     
  11. G.v.P

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    EC version looks pretty good. Too bad we'd have to play EC to use it though, jk lol.
     
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    Ease of changing rune order is the only sign of intelligence. The rest falls under play smarter not lazier. Code mages can put the rest in the same area on the "to do" list with the arrow / bolt dye tub.

    I feel no simpathy for the hard headed players that wont use EC. Those that can't just live to close to the Ammish.

    Locks are saved 100% using vendors to store the BOD books. Sad state of the game is having to pay cash for BOD book dyes.

    At the low drop rate of larges just need to keep ten of a small type. Then look at the time you'll spend collecting goods to rotate BODs. Toss the overflow on the ground at luna and watch the greater hoarders pick them up. Threaten to hold your breath till they update the BOD rewards may catch Cal's attention faster.

    Just be more organized when filling spellbooks. 64 is the magic number. The scribe pen crafter window is worse now then before.
     
  13. Kri

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    This.

    I know I'm anal but I'm used to having certain runes in certain positions and if I have to update those runes I have to drop a number of runes to get them back to their proper location...
     
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    If they would just list them alphabetically you could add a number before the rune and then they would sort. Take it out - remark, rename and it would be organized alphabetically.

    Same goes for bod books - why sorting Alphabetically is not the default is beyond me.
     
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    What about those of us who can't use the EC?
     
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    Ya the EC client is almost unplayable to many due to the crash issues but you guys want rune books updated....
     
  17. Lady Storm

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    Like many here someof us CANT use EC. Some because they crash or litterly get tossed out of game and some of us CANT because of what it does to our sight. I for one had a stroke, and that EC client HURTS to LOOK AT! If we went to EC only i'd have to quit UO.

    I would love to be able to shift my runes around in order that I need them in the book ... yes I know its my preference but thats just it ... ITS my preference. I have vendors I sell City and Dungeon books on, I cant tell you how much it would help to be able to move them in the book rather then pop them out and hunt my pack to get the runes back in some order.

    Bod books it too would be a nice feature to have simular advantage. Organization of bods now theres a consept!
     
  18. neptune1369

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    Thats kinda my thoughts just like the spellbooks. How hard can this be to do?
     
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    While we're making demands for rune books, I have one.

    Ability to set the default action when selecting a rune on the main page!

    By default it tries to use a recall charge on the book, which is of course absolutely useless on our shard, so we have to go to the page for the rune we want and select the second gem, while not exactly hard it's a lot of mouse movement and page flipping for a simple action (especially if it's near the center of the book.) I would love it if i could simply click the icon on the main page and cast gate travel without having to browse to it. (or, for you guys on prodo, click on it to cast any of the 3 spells, gate travel, sacred journey, or recall, would help you as well!)

    It's especially annoying when you either have too low of mana or for some other reason fail, since you have to re-open the book, flip all the way back again.
     
  20. Lady Storm

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    Well I would also ask that the books on Siege P be set to allow the gate scroll to act like a recall only with a gate opening instead drop 20 on the book and away you go ....
    (just thought id ask hehe)

    If the Dev could do a few small changes ... yes I know its never a small thing to ask for a change .... all the coding and the work it takes .....its not a small thing but a needed one.

    pretty please with dark chocolate hershy kisses on top??
     
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    I love the idea of only having one Rune book in my Bag, and being able to re order them with out taking them all out would be equally cool.
     
  22. Lady Storm

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    Not quite 1 book but perhaps 3 or 4 not the 8 or more to run where you gotta go ...
    These days i color code my books and use placement to hop about quickly.

    Some days if the right one of my characters is at the bank the people asking for gates to places I can pop gates to everywhere in the shard. Thats how many books she has on her!! I'd love to cut back on the books but to be truthful to do so I run the risk of having my friends die before i could run to them for aid or my rl family who play too. Not making it gets a bit touchy when your late to son's aid and he dies ....
     
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    I was also thinking of could they add a more brighter palet to the book dye tub? Perhaps ad a second page to the color sheet with brights.
     
  24. AtlanticVlad

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    What Raptor said let us set the default action for the little blue gem... to what ever we want please specially for us siege folks where recall doesn't work...
     
  25. Lady Storm

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    I'd like to see Siege where the rune books held gate charges instead of recalls which dont work there.
     
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    This can all be done, for a price!
     
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    When isnt it?? If you consider we pay every month....
     
  28. Ahuaeyjnkxs

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    They are probably getting all fired again...

    That or they realised this is not disneyland and feel guilty.
     
  29. Lady Storm

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    As far as "Disneyland" goes, you can have a very jolly office and still have good work and meet deadlines. However.... programming can be a challenge. For those of us who have done it, know not everything you write does as its sopose to. Plus time can slip away if you plan for something way too complex. It's why the first dev team did small patches as they went along. Anchients of the game will remember how those went... if you were lucky it was great.. if not... your shard disapeared for a few days.

    EA works with billions of dollars, the new CEO is an admitted old gammer. He gave each division their head and let them use their magic to make $$ for the company. Mythic is under BioWare's founders control. And heres the but..... EA lost $$ and let go not once but twice workers across the board. BioWare might be hands on this time to make sure things get done and the $$ flow back to EA.

    This mind you is only my hypothasis not the rule. that said I still want what I asked for.

    Rune books you can open like spell books, multiples on the screen for comparason of content with more room for more runes, at least double it from 16 to 32, make them shiftable in order in the book (bod books too would go nicely). Bod books you can drop and remove bods from locked down. Siege could use gates to be used in the Rune books like normal shards use recalls. Ajust the color palet to add brights to the rune books dyeablity.
     
  30. Ahuaeyjnkxs

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    Anchients :p

    hehe... you see I did some coding for UO back then... I'm even supposed to be famous because at the time where hacking was worse in the game I had reverse engeneered UOE (please mod edit out this post of this is still a 3rd party program that we must not name lol) and invented a totally hack proof CC.

    I mean totally hack proof, and it required about 1kb of internet traffic to each player, a smalll small cost for a hack free game.

    This was hard to script... doing add ons like you speak of would take me about 15 minutes. 1 hour of testing and off it goes... exactly in the same manner they created the EC one, it was easy for the programmer that did it.

    I was 13 years old back then and I could do it, I probably would rush a little today since I miss practice, but hey :p