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Calling all Artists, Historians & Die Hard UO Fans...

Discussion in 'UHall' started by DVDA, Aug 29, 2009.

  1. DVDA

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    Ok as most of us know, the original paintings you could fish up were taken from real life art works throughout history....

    The Large Painting (Also its Variation Ruined Painting in Doom) is "Madonna with the Long Neck" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna_with_the_Long_Neck)

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    and the painting used for Ricardo is "Barthel Bruyn the Elder, Vanitas" (http://www.bbk.ac.uk/english/skc/flysight/)

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    (UO Picture of this painting is featured in screenshot below to the right of Armoire in the Bedroom)

    But what about the other 3? Anyone know what painting the 3 to the right of my character (left of screen) are of?

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  2. Viper09

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    Well the paintings to the right of your character...1 and 3 appear to be the same, only different color dress.
     
  3. DVDA

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    Indeed they do, but I cant seem to figure out what painting they are...searching around the 1500s cause that seems to be UO's theme
     
  4. Crysta

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    I don't remember the name of the painting (I only remember seeing it once), but the one of the yellowish lady i'm pretty sure is an Elizabethan one.

    Didn't stratics have some of them listed at some point? Or was it another little fansite out there.. I can't remember.
     
  5. DVDA

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    Stratics doesnt even have pictures of these painting (from UO) I had to take screen shot myself or search the web...the fishing guide doesnt even show/list paintings as a reward at all
     
  6. Crysta

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    Wish I remembered where I saw it, then.
     
  7. DVDA

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    Anyone else find it weird that GMs used a painting of a Skull, with it's jaw removed and a candle as a wanted poster for Ricardo?

    Ricardo must be one scary mother if he is a skull without a jaw and is still alive!
     
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    Its not the place I remember seeing it before though.. that one had descriptions of where most were from.. don't think that person ever figured out what the small ones were either though.
     
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    The painting to the west of you always reminded me of the lady from the Leighton knight paintings. I don't think it is actually based on those, but....

    Oh nice Crysta! Thanks for that.
     
  12. DVDA

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    As Crysta has pointed out this painting [​IMG]

    is this painting [​IMG]

    we just dont know the name nor the artist and the one in my screen shot is just the reverse
     
  13. Coppelia

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    Domenico Ghirlandaio (1449-1494)
     
  14. Aurelius

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    The picture is "Portrait of Giovanna Tornabuoni", sadly the UO name length rules mean you can't create a character with that name and claim the pictures are of 'you' ;)
     
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    William Wissing, Mary Stuart.
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    William Wissing, Queen Anne
     
  16. Crysta

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    Neither of those look quite right.
     
  17. DVDA

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    I think Saunders may be right (atleast on the top picture). You can see the red robe on the bottom right of the UO picture and her left hand is in the same place for both paintings. The exposed neck and clevage area also matches

    P.S. Awesome job Coppelia for figuring out the artist for the other painting
     
  18. Coppelia

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    Well looking at the UO painting I was thinking about Botticelli, but the real finding is from Crysta.

    About Mary Stuart, it's not her portrait that we have in UO. The pose is very classical, but you'll notice in the UO painting dark green in the dress and not white sleeves and the right hand in the bottom-left corner.
     
  19. DVDA

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    Hmmm so the search continues to try and figure out who painted the last potrait.
     
  20. kittykat

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    If the red dressed lady matches the Queen Anne portrait, could the green dressed lady be the reverse of that (much as the Domenico Ghirlandaio is reversed in a blue dress in your screenshot)?
     
  21. Cetric

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    Nice, i never even thought to think these were based after real paintings.
     
  22. christy1221

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    I had forgot about it. I remember a thread about it a long time ago. I think it's cool that they are based on real ones. :thumbsup:
     
  23. Llewen

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    Sometimes I think I'm smart, and relatively well educated. Then someone really smart comes along and I am faced with the sad reality...

    And once again, this just shows how much love went into creating UO. Of course maybe it was just easier to copy a pic out of an art book... :)
     
  24. Stupid Miner

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    Eh, it's just trivia really.
     
  25. Llewen

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    But still, smart trivia. We're not talking who knows the most one liners from bad 80's sitcoms here. ;)
     
  26. Saunders

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    I'm not entirely sure about these particular paintings either. The artist was quite prolific and there are many variations on the theme of the pose with very similar compositions. It might help fix the period though.
     
  27. Crysta

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    [​IMG]

    Corrected perspective and doubled in size.. that might help in getting the right one. It's certainly similar to both, but definitely isn't either.
     
  28. DevilsOwn

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    close, but still not quite right

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  29. kitiara-atlantic

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    Thanks for sharing! This is fascinating - I had no idea the paintings were based on real works. :)
     
  30. Merriweather

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    The one closest to your character is "Giovanna degli Albizzi Tornabuoni" painted by Domenico Ghirlandaio between 1488 and 1490, probably in Florence.
     
  31. Merriweather

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    I am guessing that the "red, green, blue, purple dress" lady is from "Portrait of a Florentine Noblewoman" artist unknown, painted about 1540 and now in the San Diego Museum. 2floren14.jpg
     
  32. Llewen

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    They chose "artist unknown" so they wouldn't have to pay anyone royalties... :D
     
  33. Kirthag

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    Altho close, I don't think that's it either.

    When looking at the other portraits, they are very much right on the money - why would this one (or 2) be off? They must match for it to be so.

    The thing about the "twin" portraits (as I call them) is they are mirror images of the same model, just different colored dresses. I've even started looking into the Ultima games themselves for some hints on it.

    Other possibilities?

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    Portrait of Mary Hill by Anthony Van Dyck, 1638
    wrong color dress & hair, no white chemise, but very similar pose even if the UO version is cropped some (do note the left arm is covered by "something" probably shawl or wrap)





     
  34. Merriweather

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    Portrait of Mary Hill by Anthony Van Dyck, 1638
    wrong color dress & hair, no white chemise, but very similar pose even if the UO version is cropped some (do note the left arm is covered by "something" probably shawl or wrap)


    The neckline is wrong and the right arm and wrist are too long.
     
  35. DarkWolf

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    Looks to me like it may be Joan of Aragon by Da Vinci. It's hard to tell though. My eyes aren't that good with the small portraits.
     
  36. Kirthag

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    Joan of Aragon by Raphael Giclee (1483-1520), on display @ Musée du Louvre

    damned close - but hand in wrong position...