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Can horses get a delay timer PLEASE?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Mikeee, Mar 25, 2009.

  1. Mikeee

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    So now that faction war horses can be self rezzed by anyone with bandages I would like to formally request that mounts get a timer.

    It is very upset to dismount someone and kill their horse while they are dumping on you and you are thinking...now hes stuck on foot and he just runs with a UOA macro to heal the horse and auto jump on.

    This has been very frustrating as of late as dismounts are basically useless.

    However this got even MORE annoying without a delay on regular mounts when I was being chased by about 6 of the enemy faction and as I am in Animal Form running for dear life (mind you I often get accused of being a speed hacker as I am usually able to outrun most people) and not just 1-2 of them but all of them are able to stay on me fast enough and as they are chasing me guys are hoping off their horses and firing bolts and then back on their horses like magic. All the while still being on my ass. They have macros that jump you off horse attempt a special move, then jump back on. Now I've tried doing this in UOA and I get ALL kinds of 'you must wait to perform this action' bs and it doesn't run nearly as fast as they do.

    So since you refuse to discipline these people for their better than god macros that UOA can apparently do? Could you please put liek a 2 second delay in hopping on and off your mount. This evening of the odds would be much appreciated. Also I would appreciate if Pets had the same swing delay as humans. It is very annoying when the second a guy catches up to me hes off his hiryu and it dismounts me and I'm basically dead on foot vs a hiryu anyways let along the tamer pounding on you.

    Please don't take this post as griping, simply stating some obvious balance issues that need addressing.
     
  2. Ailish

    Ailish Lore Master
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    Suggestion - use a no-dachi to dismount and DO NOT kill the horse. You will find it works out much better for you.

    As for your alluding to people using a cheat to remount since you can't seem to get it right ... it is just that, you are not doing it right. It took me a bit to get the hang of the macros (plural) but here is what you do: record macro: dismount your pet. Set macro to whatever key you wish. Record macro: mount pet. set to whatever key you wish. Now you should be able to dismount and mount smoothly (on a live mount) with no issues. And if you put your "toggle special move" on a key between the two? Voila! 1 2 3 dismount, special, remount.
     
  3. WarUltima

    WarUltima Babbling Loonie
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    Wow this is the first post that's saying dismount special being useless for many years. Dismount is the only special that has the potential being everlasting while taking away the biggest "skill" and advantage in uo, speed/mobility. Dismount attack is everlasting because after 5 second you don't just "pop back" on your mount. Your mount can be attacked/poisoned/killed during the fight. If anything dismount should be made harder to perform.

    Have you seem a dismount gank? Many pvp guilds with lower than average players are designated dismounters and usually play on a stealth archers. Dismount is the most powerful group fighting attack in all uo universe. It can't be buffed beyond what we have now. You are asking for a 2 second delay on remounting and it will be live and death in group fights. Even just 2 second you can be instantly ganked. What if my intention of dismounting myself is to avoid a dismount gank? Now I am giving them 2 second window to kill me or my mount or simply poison my mount. Its essencially a half dismount shot confusion that you inflict on yourself by doing nothing.

    If you want to be able to dismount shot and own someone outright play the gimp of the year archer tamer with dread horse and get your macros right. It takes nearly no skill and its one of the most effective pvp gimp template exsiting today.

    Good luck.
     
  4. Splup

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    We usually use poison, thou it can be cured.

    You can also just use paralyze on the horse, and while the guy is running from you the horse will be left badly behind.
     
  5. I have seen the mounted Xbow firing REMOUNTERS. I wanted to complain here too,,, BUT with text being able to dismount you by clicking it, I would not do this. I don't know how many times I have been trying to click a MOB next to me and dismounted myself UNINTENTIONALLY. These ppl doing this should incurr the pasue that comes with loosing a bolt @ you. Giving you the time to continue to run.
     
  6. WarUltima

    WarUltima Babbling Loonie
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    I agree. A short remount timer should be placed on ANYONE attempted a dismount shot and whiffed.
     
  7. Mikeee

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    Haha yes exactly the remount timer is what I'm talking about. The guys who are in a dead run pop off and dismount you and you might have an etheral while they have bushido and roll on a Hiryu (a whole other bag of worms).

    However like I said with war horses now its extra ****ty since they can have a macro to heal it while running. So its dead one second the next the guy is on it and running. Also dismounting isn't as good as it could be. If you dismount any bush guy you might as well leave them on horse because they are just going to run with 6-7 people on them and live through it until they find their horse again lol.

    Its just amazing the speed these people move at with these macros, how they can catch you and dismount their pet have the pet dismount you in under like half a second. So many templates on Catskills that do about 10 dmg a shot to you but they ride Cu Sidhes or Hiryus that will eat the crap out of you. And they role bush/parry so they just run with confidence/evasion/Enhance Pots/(4/6 chiv) and basically unkillable and not too many warriors can stand toe to to with a hiryu while their leader is dumping on you.
     
  8. While I agree with allot of what you say about rounding PvP, I want to remind you how easy it is to derail any PvP thread, and to get others started on why "you" are whining. As they run the gimp-let all over your dead body. Never the less. The pet should be Dazed for a short temp after it gets rez'd. Also anytime someone looses a bow/arrow while using a primary or secondary ability, they should not be able to jump instantly back on their mount to run you down, never missing a beat.
     
  9. Lynk

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    This is rediculous. I can see what happened. A group of uncoordinated unorganized self proclaimed PvPers tried to zerg a group of 4 or 5 mages. The moving shot spam wasn't working so they tried to dismount. They were good players, cross healed and had a res pet macro with bandaids preset. They must be cheating.

    The mages finally got backup from one or two archers (who actually know how to use UOA) and turned the tables with dismounts, because as soon as the numbers evened up the zerg could not handle a fight so they attempted to high tail it out of there.
     
  10. red sky

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    I thought there was already one for when they actually hit. So technically they would be dismounting themselves for the 2 seconds if they implemented this goofy idea.
     
  11. JC the Builder

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    I think a good solution would be to make this into a much more general change. If you take any damage while in the process of resurrecting a pet it will fail. This would make things much more tactical for all pets, not just faction horses. If you are getting pounded on by a Blood Elemental you don't have time to resurrect your Greater Dragon which died due to your inattentiveness.

    Even further, perhaps the time needed to resurrect a player should also be extended as well. It used to take ~6 seconds to summon an elemental but only two to cast Resurrection? This would enhance the penalties of death by making it slightly more difficult to be resurrected. I think a 10 second casting time or 10 seconds uninterrupted bandaging time is not too much but will enhance PvP/PvM.
     
  12. Mikeee

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    Haha yeah something very similar except I walked up from the moongate got dismounted and a handful of other faction guys came running at me so I jumped in animal form in a run. So if this big fight that I lost and am crying about is because I don't have UOA macros is b.s. I'm sorry you feel that way lol.

    Point being it gets ridiculous when in the heat of a deadrun players are jumping off mounts swinging with a special and missing and still just hopping back on like nothing happened.
     
  13. Ailish

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    Um, nothing DID happen. They missed, whiffed, have to stand still to fire again. NOTHING HAPPENED. So ... you are asking that a player be penalized when NOTHING HAPPENS?
     
  14. Speaking the Truth

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    Horrible idea. It's difficult enough when you're playing solo and get dismounted and have a group after you. This only punishes the smaller groups or solo pvpers, very bad idea. They already took away instant pet ball summons, having to wait out the dismount time and then res time on top of that assuming they kill your pet right before you can mount. I don't think we need any changes that help zergs and punish the lone pvpers :)
     
  15. Tasslehoff

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    you aren't doing something right to have problems doing what ever other pvper does with uoa mount/dismount macro.you must be really slow if you both are off mount and a hyru kills you but you can animal form and outrun most people.here is a idea don't do factions alone if you are fighting 4v1