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Can we get an ARCANE CIRCLE inside of Luna Bank on Atlantic Shard, or all shards?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Dan123The123Man, Jul 22, 2011.

  1. Dan123The123Man

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    I was wondering if we could get an Arcane Circle placed inside of Luna Bank to make it easier for those who want to get an arcane focus. That way they don't have to spam in general chat. There are always a lot of people sitting inside of luna bank and maybe they would afk on the arcane circle or just move a few tiles over to get on the circle to make it easier for us to get an arcane focus. That or could the one in Brit be moved to inside of luna bank on the first floor? It would really be nice considering the amount of people inside of luna bank all the time.
     
  2. aarons6

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    or just do away with the focus and make the power scale with skill?
     
  3. Mapper

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    On Europa they have a daily 7pm arcane focus and as far as I know it works very well, Why not consider that?
     
  4. aarons6

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    cause some people cant be on line at exactly 7pm?
    so what happens to the people on at 7:10pm or even 7:30, or 8pm

    see where this is going?? its never ending and its almost always the same people having to go help the other guy out.. over and over and over.

    until you just ignore the chat and that poor guy gets no focus.
     
  5. Dan123The123Man

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    I play on Atlantic and work third shift, i'm usually not on at 7pm either.


    As is I ONLY get into General Chat when I need to get a focus, if everyone else were like that then nobody would knwo when to get a Focus. The reason I hardly get in general chat is from the spam, who could blame me honestly. If we could get an Arcane Circle inside of luna bank though where EVERYONE goes to really, then it would help a ton. We wouldn't have to stay in general chat and hope that throughout all the slander and curse words somebody wills ay "HEY FOCUS HERE". If we had a circle in luna we could ask the people there to just walk 2-3 tiles closer to get on the circle and bam a lvl 6 focus right there.

    I am all for the having the arcane focus scale with your skilllevel and being able to cast it by yourself, something for like when you cast it by yourself:

    for when you cast it by yourself -
    Spellweaving Skill: lvl of Arcane Focus
    1-20 skill: lvl 1 focus
    21-40 skill: lvl 2 focus
    41-60 skill: lvl 3 focus
    61-80 skill: lvl 4 focus
    81-100 skill: lvl 5 focus
    101-120 skill: lvl 6 focus

    That way you don't have to rely on anyone :D.


    If not that then I really do wish we could get a circle put inside of luna bank. Brit West Bank just isn't as populated as it was years ago.
     
  6. Flutter

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    Could just make some friends to help you.
     
  7. Dan123The123Man

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    aww your so funny I forgot to laugh -_-.


    Especially since UO is so overly populated it can't be THAT annoying trying to spam over under age kids in general chat to try and get a focus! For situations where its early in the morning where nobody is on, being able to make your own arcane focus without relying on others is nice. Then that would make the arcane circles though more like decoration. Moving or putting a circle in luna bank would be a fantastic idea, I don't see why any actual spellweavers out there would say no to this.
     
  8. aarons6

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    some nights there just is nobody on.. like tonight, it might be a long wait to get a focus right now on pac.. few people on.
     
  9. Stig

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    I say No, People dont go to Brit enough as it is !
     
  10. aarons6

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    who cares about brit?
    there is nothing special there and its out of the way.. thankfully the put a gate out right by the bank but a gate in is all the way down the road.

    why do people have to think that everyone should be forced to play a certain way?
     
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    We had to beg the Dev's to put one on every shard in both Tram and Fel after someone designed their shards bank with one that gave the +1. I really don't see the need to have them put one in the middle of Luna bank because it would be more convenient. Just be thankful that your not having to pay 10K per char and running to the bottom of Prism of Light anymore.
     
  12. Ender

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    Luna sucks.

    No.
     
  13. keel

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    I think we should have less things to funnel us back to Luna. Me? I hate it. I much prefer WBB; hell, on Atlantic there's even a moongate RIGHT THERE, shades of Luna. There's a lot of content in the game, and I hate that so many hours are sucked away by the same ol' bank. Yes, I remember when *the* bank used to be WBB, but Luna's shopping mall will garner enough interest. Hell, why not put a focus at Yew bank, or somewhere even more obscure. Get players going elsewhere to explore the land, even if it's just for a few seconds.
     
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    how bout a circle at yew gate fel :)
     
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    Well sure, but then the reds would run into the circle, cast, then run back out to their houses.
     
  16. weins201

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    NO no no

    :gee:get off your lazy go to brit getyour focus, not all that hard:grouphug:

    :party: of course I know why you want luna so people can just park chars there that wont log out.:stir:

    :sad2:
     
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    i thnk there should be random exploisions and a gasoline fire around luna bank, maybe randomly placed land mines that blow your charatcer up and remove insurance as well, hey a guy can dream.
     
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    I'd rather do that than spam upwards of an hour.

    This whole spell is a fait accompli. We've already had to complete a quest to use it, two more quests to get two of the spells, and scour the whole of Sosaria for scrolls. Now, to do anything halfway useful with the skill, we have to beg strangers to stand on a circle.

    The arcane circle idea was a good one when the shards were well-populated. Now, you'd be lucky to get two other players in these ghosttown shards.

    Get rid of the circle, or add an alternate means of acheiving the same goal.
     
  20. Dan123The123Man

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    Can we be a bit more realistic? :D


    You don't have to run to the bottom of prism of light, you do realize you can place these circles INSIDE your home right? I don't see why it's such a problem to move the circle out of a dead town away from a dead bank to a more populated bank? Instead of leaving it in brit where lets be honest, NOBODY really goes. Put it at a bank thats actually POPULATED so we don't have to fight over whos text is on top in general chat.


    I think I made my point clear above that it would be a lot more hastle free to just goto luna bank to get the focus then spamming in general chat over a bunch of kids trash talking each other. Oh and for the brit circle, yes there is a gate there but you goto any moongate and choose Brit and you will appear at the brit moongate, OUTSIDE of town. There is NO destination set for when you want to get TO brit bank using that moongate. The only thing that moongate is good for is if you want to LEAVE brit bank. The moongate at the bank is absolutelly useless but thats beside the point. This thread is about the Arcane Circle NOT the moongate. And last I checked, players already park there chars in luna bank so they don't logout... Is there a problem with that? Is there such a problem with trying to get a circle in a populated area to make it "EASIER" to get a focus? It's not like the game is INCREASING in the number of players that play.

    So hey everyone why don't we just leave the arcane circle at a bank that nobody uses since clearly players are starting to go back to brit :-/, nah... I don't think so. Times have changed and everyone uses Luna now, since times have changed the arcane circle should be moved to the new more populated bank that the majority of the shard prefer to goto. I don't think it would be so hard to throw one inside of Luna Bank, i've seen EMs inside of teh bank trying to decorate with all sorts of things. You could make a white arcane circle or something so that it doesn't look weird being red like inside of the bank.


    Amen to that brother! The only reason I have really been lucky to snag people in the AFTERNOON was due to my good guild mate that happens to have 2 accounts. When he's not on though it's hell, it really is.
     
  21. MalagAste

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    Good grief..... Lazy go to Brit Bank like everyone else. Luna is Evil and I hate going to that lag infested hole....
     
  22. Dan123The123Man

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    I replied to this already in the previous post about why Luna should have an Arcane Circle.
     
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    Your excuse that the Britain one is useless because the gate goes outside of town is RIDICULOUS. I've ran between that gate and the town for years and It isn't an issue stop being lazy.

    The devs have plenty of things to fix, this is something YOU can fix yourself..
     
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    Stay on topic please, as I said in the previous post... This thread is NOT about Brit moongate, this thread IS about the possibility of having an Arcane Circle in LUNA Bank. For reference so you can look back, I took the liberty in quoting MYSELF for you.

    " The moongate at the bank is absolutelly useless but thats beside the point. This thread is about the Arcane Circle NOT the moongate."
     
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    If you have no friend or allies you play with, if no other player you run into will help you with the focus after asking (it is late you may only get a 4or 5 but thats good)
    Maybe you should change shards and find a shard more populated during the hours you enjoy. It helps that I have two accounts and have two I can offer if I do have to ask in romperroom(general chat) for help,
     
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    what we really need is an invasion on luna, so we can push people out of that supermarket...
     
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    That's what happened to Brit in the first place.
     
  28. Myna

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    didnt read the whole thread, but use general chat to gather weavers, works well on europa for those who cant be online 7 pm


    even if it would be in luna bank, you still need 5 people for a focus and most are afk banksitting, so the problem would be almost the same

    and no to skill based focus
     
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    No to arcane circle in Luna.

    If 7pm doesn't work for you, there's nothing preventing you from suggesting, oh I dunno, a regular 9pm circle. Talk to folks, find out who has a weaver and work out what time(s) suit you all. Go nuts and have TWO regular circle times!

    I work whack hours which change on a weekly basis. If I'm in game, I will generally respond to a call for a circle. Met some nice folks and had some fine adventures, too, as sometimes happens when you talk to other players.
     
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    Yes, I do know that you could have one in your house, just as you can have one in your house right now, but if you wanted a leave 6 focus, the only way you could have gotten one before WBB was to pay the gold and make a run for it. That is unless you just left 4 chars down in the healers room. I notice that on some shards, Luna vendor houses have Arcane Circles, couldn't you just use them and get the level 5 and be happy.

    For a skill that the only other requirement to make the spells more powerful is getting a focus gem, I'm willing to walk/recall/gate to WBB. I've read other people asking for another way to be able to get this gem, and more likely than not we probably wouldn't like the solution that they'll come up with.

    Couldn't help but notice that you say you play on Atlantic...That's the most populated shard, so you're not going to get much sympathy from those that manage to get level 6 focuses on the really dead shards.
     
  31. MalagAste

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    Actually it's about you being lazy .... too lazy to appreciate what you have been given.

    When the Circles first came out the only way to get a lvl 6 was to go down into the Crystiline Palace in Nu'Jelm Fel I believe.

    So it COULD go back to that.

    So be happy with that which you have been granted.... and quit being lazy.
     
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    I am against having a circle in Luna. I understand the desire, but it bad enough you can go to one spot in the game and do everything. Every shop is right there, You can use all the repair deeds there. You can tithe, rez, bank, log out upstairs, stable right there, You guys (Lunites) should not even have the moongate there. I think some GM's play and they tweek the game to suit themselves. You will never be able to convince me otherwise. Quit trying to make the world smaller than it is.

    This picture proves it.

    I added Brit for the perspective.

    [​IMG]
     
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    How about a gumball machine with 10 charges that dispenses focus gems, $9.99 on UOGameCodes.
     
  34. weins201

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    This is going pathetically off topic, post a pole get a true answer.

    Post a poll get a true idea, if people agree with you or not.

    Looks like most say no but you have no idea how to actually calculatre the ersponse.

    MODs lock this please, it is no longer a question but a bashing.
     
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    I say no, but if one were to be put there, make it like the house ones that doesnt give the +1 (leave the brit bank one to be the only special one by a bank), that way level 5 focus is the max you could get in luna.

    Besides, we have no trouble getting enough people together to do a focus on SIEGE, how hard could it really be on ATL or GL ?
     
  36. keel

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    I bet if you dispensed with some of those rares you have all over the place, people would be more than happy to give you a focus any time you wanted :D
     
  37. Sevin0oo0

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    NO, several reasons, already listed above.

    ...and the #1 reason not, Devs can't make a circle! WBB will testify to that - it's pathetic looking, and you want More?
     
  38. MalagAste

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    It's not at all hard on GL's.

    All the time there are folk asking for a circle and all the time there are several of us with Spellweaving who answer. I've even sent 2 characters on occasion to give someone a circle.
     
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    OR make the focus skill based instead of participant based? Ridiculous...
     
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    I think i've made my point clear, no need to say the same thing over and over again... Plus, i'm just borred of repeating myself lol. Feel free to lock this thread or think about the idea.
     
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    You have made no point, sorry

    :gee:Every idea you have thrown out there has been refuted by more than one person.

    :stir:Your disires are just that yours, they are not a benifit to the game o rthe community, sorry that is just the way it is, and that is what many have told you.

    Like i said earlier if yuo want to gahter a valid opinion on your idea post a poll and see how that goes, if it is like this forum and the numbers are in the negative you have no reason to be upset, that is houw a democracy and a community works. :thumbup:
     
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    Re: You have made no point, sorry

    Thats your opinion and your entitled to it, just like I am entitled to my own valid opinion. That being said, the entire UO community does NOT read Stratics. So take that how you will. We don't see eye to eye and thats fine, no point in discussing the same opinion further, let people who haven't said anything reply or lock the thread.
     
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    Re: You have made no point, sorry

    Polls here mean nothing to EA. I put up a recent poll should Cal to post screenshots of the EC graphic updates that he has said he has seen and the difference is amazing. There was a overwhelming 80% Yes to post the screenshots. It would only have taken 1 minute to post some screenshots here... and the end result was a big fat nothing.
     
  44. Sevin0oo0

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    Re: You have made no point, sorry

    I like Post #5, yours. "Forced" to rely on others for my skill usage was Exactly why I decided to Never Ever work this skill - add in a spell to kill any mob in 1cast, Still not doing it. Dev said, "don't like it, don't play it" Flush the skill, done, then post about Forced play style Every time it comes up. Only thing Devs are succeeding in doing is to "Force" me to play less.
     
  45. unified

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    I think the real problem here is not so much as where the circle is located, but whether participants can be gathered timely. I am not against one in Luna simply because I do not think it will matter.

    I play on GL and sometimes you will be able to get others to join a circle within 5 minutes. Other times, you might get two others and will stand there waiting for others for almost an hour. The shard population makes depending on others to use this skill not worthwhile. Whenever I am on, and I see someone ask in General Chat, I will go to WBB and participate, but I really don't see a lot of requests when I am on. Admittedly, however, it is very disruptive to participate, and often times I will stand there with just the caller for more than 15 minutes. That is a long time to not be able to do anything else.

    There really should be an alternate means of getting this accomplished. Maybe another quest, with the award being NPC's will form a circle, with the level being based on quest accomplishment?

    FWIW, people are not lying or lazy when they complain about not being able to get a circle. We don't always play during the same time, and some times are harder than others. I will admit that the lazy accusation might be legitimate when it comes to patience --- one should be prepared to wait at least 15 minutes before calling it a failure.
     
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    have you considered asking non-spellweavers to help you? If you stone off your spellweaving skill as human you can do a l6 with people of 0 skill. Perhaps offer a tithe, like 10k gold to stand on this circle for a minute (or gather newbies in haven)
     
  47. Waylander

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    One easy solution is to make the gates at wbb work both ways. This way we could try and revive wbb and hopefully let luna die!
     
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    On Europa someone constantly gated from Luna to Britain once, It worked for about a day. I suspect the same would happen with making the moongate 2 way. Theres more to Luna than the moongate.
     
  49. Derpadurp

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    Britain bank is dead and never coming back. Quit trying to ***got up the game with this forlorn dream that you can force people back. At this point on Atlantic Haven has 50 times as much traffic, so even if you blew up Luna you'd just be pushing everyone into Haven.