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Can we get an Auto-Loot system please.

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Eric Ravenwind, Nov 4, 2011.

  1. Eric Ravenwind

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    Id like the devs to make a system that allows the player to input select items, and item property intensitys.

    This way when a monster gets killed, you can just hit a macro or whatever, and loot what you like; gold, t-maps, resources, etc.
     
  2. PJay

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    Dont be lazy!

    This would cause many problems for guilds and friends who party up for a fun raid!
     
  3. Larisa

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    Yeah lets just keep trying to make UO more like every other stinking MMO out there...Auto-Loot, Books to sort everything...heck put an in-game auction house in why not?

    I like UO because it DOESN'T have those things...it is unlike any other game in the world..lets keep it that way!

    :yell:

    *goes to brew some blackrock stew*
     
  4. Eric Ravenwind

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    I, personally, find it difficult to search corpses & examine loot while being hammered by 5+ monsters.

    As far as not wanting this system, if they make it, just don't use it - that simple. I think this auto-loot system would streamline my game play, and make it more enjoyable.
     
  5. PJay

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    You'd also force other people to use it otherwise when in a party the person auto looting will allways win.

    If your getting wacked by 5+ mobs and your soloing.... Kinda explains why its hard now if u went with 2 - 3 guildies might be able to control the spawn around you while u loot.
     
  6. Eric Ravenwind

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    Isn't loot already divided up my damage, and a different corpse window opens for all who contributed damage? If this is so, then it doesn't matter if ppl are auto-looting, because they will only be taking stuff from their corpse container.
     
  7. Luvmylace

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    one word LAZY
     
  8. clarkifer

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    the key to looting with a group........ drop party right before the champ, etc dies. this allows the last bit of damage to even out the odds.... everyone gets their own looting rights
     
  9. RioGrande

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    Looting is UO,dont kill this with a stupid macro !
     
  10. Sure, let's make farming even EASIER than it is already. Why play the game?

    Backpack drops are the reason someone walks into a dungeon chamber with an indestructible pet, invis'es themselves, sets up an inactivity macro and go off on vacation for a week. An autoloot feature would make this more frequent.
     
  11. NuSair

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    The key would be for them to set it up so that we can chose to allow party members to have their own loot or do it group loot.
     
  12. PJay

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    Or leave it how it is because theres nothing wrong with it!

    In a party the whole party has access to the loot! Dropping party just before killing an enemy could be considered an exploit but seen as the only gain is splitting loot its probably the best unintentional system in the game!

    Maybe if they could add to the party system a open / closed loot systems might stop having to drop the party all the time! that would sreamline peoples hunting!

    As for auto loot no thanks!
     
  13. jack flash uk

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    when the anti-virtue dungeon arti 12 and virtue armour parts first came out you could just sit there killing lizardmen for example with NO chance of dying and the artifacts just drop in your pack, or like Tokuno treasure, so you can et up go out and come back with a full pack, this what you want?

    terrrible idea

    just stay attended and PLAY the game

    or you can of course target the loot you want at an idoc say and then watch it drop in your pack as you run around the fallen house footprint, oh hang on that program has not been blocked by the dev team yet

    here's a good idea, lure the mob away kill loot grab another no need to fight 5 at once
     
  14. Lord Frodo

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    This is an outstanding idea.

    Farmed Miasma with a GD when I was training an Imbuer for the loot. Would have loved to auto looted everything and when full recall home drop off and returned.

    This would also be great for those farmers, you know the ones I am talking about, to just auto loot everything all day long with recalling home to unload and return to do it all over again.

    How about a 4311 NO.
     
  15. Merion

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    The EC offers a 1-click-loot function that is pretty handy. Just right-click an item in a corpse and it lands in your backpack.

    I'm against a totally automatic loot system. I can't start to imagine what kind of exploit problems this may open the door for...
     
  16. popps

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    Well, I have heard that there are scripts that can do it. Of course, scripting is not allowed.....
     
  17. THIS is the answer!

    Took me a moment to remember calculator words... but that should be 1134 and turn the calculator upside down.
     
  18. Lord Frodo

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    LOL
     
  19. Mervyn

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    I'm sure there are third party programs that will do this for you, i doubt you'd get banned for using them since no one gets banned for cheating anymore unless you're afk.
     
  20. Shiznit Bo'Bourbon

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    You can't take away tedium! Tedium is the very soul of UO... apparently. According to the masochists in this thread. What they don't seem to realize is how much all this tedium helps the culture of cheating that surrounds the game.

    What a forum masochist thinks happens:
    Random Guy: Can we have auto-looting?
    Masochist: NO! Why are you so lazy? Picking through a dozen items one by one is what makes UO unique you lazy scum!
    Random Guy: Oh I have seen the light! You guys are right, sorry I was so lazy. I'll pick through stuff happily from now on.

    What actually happens:
    Random Guy: Can we have auto-looting?
    Masochist: NO! Why are you so lazy? Picking through a dozen items one by one is what makes UO unique you lazy scum!
    Random Guy: Whatever. *downloads auto-loot script*

    What a forum masochist thinks happens:
    Random Guy: Can we have a vendor search feature?
    Masochist: NO! Why are you so lazy? Spending hours opening hundreds of vendors in Luna alone, much less days spent running all over the world looking for deals, are what make UO unique you lazy scum!
    Random Guy: Oh you're totally right! I'm so sorry for being lazy! I'm going to idle away hours roaming the world looking for bargains and love every uniquely UO moment of it!

    What actually happens:
    Random Guy: Can we have a vendor search feature?
    Masochist: NO! Why are you so lazy? Spending hours opening hundreds of vendors in Luna alone, much less days spent running all over the world looking for deals, are what make UO unique you lazy scum!
    Random Guy: Man I don't have 12 hours a day to play. *goes to illegal search-site owned by goldsellers*

    UO's charm does not rely on having a crappy interface and you people who think it does are sick in the head. People aren't going to suffer through pointless tedium no matter how much you think they should, and "avoiding pointless tedium" is probably the most powerful incentive to get a normal person to cheat. After all, what's it to anyone else how they loot items, or buy junk? They're not hurting anyone. Ah but now their foot is in the door...
     
  21. Eric Ravenwind

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    You're on point with this. Look at the crafting improvements: Make Max, Make Number, etc. These are great improvements - i bet the same people pee-pee'd themselves when these where introduced.

    The Auto-Loot system would be an excellent idea for all that want to use it. I ask that the system be designed and implemented; but with an option for each player to loot the "old way" or the "new way".
     
  22. Larisa

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    The *Make Max* in the crafting menu is nice...BUT you still can't be unattended.

    As a 100% die-hard CC player, that doesn't use UO Assist, I can make MAYBE 12 small tables before I run out of room, have to unload and click it again but it HELPS.

    I can't sit there for DAYS grabbing an endless supply of resources out of a secure container in my house while I GM tailoring, I still have to WORK at it by re-supplying myself.

    I play another MMO...a f2p that has an in-game bot system. I bot all day long, gaining exp and gold and only have to leave my *bot spot* every 6 hours or so to restock on my *Spirit*/Mana potions.

    Why I came back to UO? It's more immursive..emursive? (Yes im too lazy to spell-check) When I go out hunting, I always have an extra bag/backpack/pouch with me and loot every single item from a corpse besides candles/regs/fertile dirt and the like and either A) sort it while I'm killing the next monster or B) sort it when I get home.

    It really doesn't take that long to drag and drop 5-6 items from the corpse to your bag, does it? And why sort it on the battlefield anyway? I can see it now, World War 7, guys shooting guns and everyone yells STOP SHOOTING I GOTTA LOOT THIS GUY! :/

    Don't stop killin just grab and go, sort later. I know everyone has their own style of play but if that style is hindering you, change it. It's the same thing as auto-loot, it just takes you a few extra seconds to get the items from the corpse into your bag. IF you had auto-loot, you'd STILL have to sort it out once it's in your bag, right? Unless you wanted something like WoW that tells you name/stats/str requirement of each and every piece of loot and you can decide what you want and what you don't..which brings me back to the *Please don't make UO like every other MMO out there* bit.
     
  23. just use the Enhanced Client. it can list view and prioritizes loot. then you can set a bag to send looted items to by just right clicking them. this is the closest thing you will get to your request.

    i doubt they will work on any added features to the classic client, as it strays away from being 'classic'.
     
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    WTF does botting have to do with wanting something more efficient than our ridiculous "click, drag, click OK next to the quantity, click again to drop in pack, now repeat" looting system?

    "Oh devs, please don't make UO like every MMO out there. You know those stupid other MMOs with their useful interfaces and lack of pointless clicking. Yuck who wants that?"

    What a joke.
     
  25. Eric Ravenwind

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    ROFL - that about sums it up!

    Devs; please don't pay any mind to the nay-sayers. If you make an auto-loot system, have a switch to turn in on and off - so each player can loot as they wish.
     
  26. Elicia

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    Auto loot - auto deposit is already implemented for the "easy mode" trammies in Felucca. ("3300 gp has been deposited in your bankbox" ring a bell with anyone?)

    Those same easy mode players already cried their way into easy mode double resources, easy mode double fame / karma, easy mode karma locks etc. and continue to cry for more and more ways to make the game easy in Felucca while claiming it is so hard (cry whine)....

    If they want to implement this in carebear land (aka Felucca) that is fine. keep it out of Trammel.
     
  27. Nyses

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    I would be pretty happy with the ability to hit a macro button that would open up the "next corpse". I like looking in the corpses to loot and pick thru stuff, but it gets really annoying when the dead bodies start to stack up right on top of one another and you have to quintuple click to get to the last body, or use the "use last object" macro for every stinking corpse.
     
  28. Larisa

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    What's *useful* to you might not be useful to others.

    I like UO the way it is, if you want Auto-Loot/Auto-Sort/Auto-Sell/Auto EVERYTHING then don't play UO. UO is in a league all it's own, leave it there.

    Oh wait...let's put in ATM machines at every moongate so we don't have to recall to the bank to take out gold...and let's make Bags of Sending send WHOLE BAGS full of stuff to my HOUSE so I don't have to recall home to dump stuff...while you're at it, why not just make a *BOD* type book for every piece of armor/loot in the game and have a Bag of sending send stuff directly to those so we don't have to do anything but kill kill kill...
     
  29. Lady Storm

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    OK OK Everyone chill out.

    Give the person a break, we had a loot system.. remember all items came in a bag. They removed the bag system to make it more fair to the splitting of loot off big kills. And to be fair to this person he/she might not remember that or might be too young to know of it.

    To the OP, yes while it would save you time the truth of hte matter we would have more fighting on our hands then you know... As you can see from the adament statements that it goes over like a lead balloon. Nice idea but been there done that once before and players feel its fine as is. Besides I dont think you want your bags over stuffed with all the crap on some critters ... come on some of that junk is weighty and can litterly kill you if you cant unload it fast enough!
     
  30. Shiznit Bo'Bourbon

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    Then don't use it!

    But don't pretend that just because YOU have some sort of fetish for crappy interface design, that everyone else is supposed to put up with it silently.
     
  31. Freelsy

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    HAHAHA. You sir/ma'am are quite funny. "don't like it, don't play it"

    You sound just like those trolls on other forums. "If you don't like raiding, then don't play our game"... same mentality, different game. It's those people that have been playing for eons that think their ideas or system of play is superior to others. It's people like YOU which hold these games back.

    Completely agree with the op on this. I hate killing stuff and having bodies stack upon each other (miasma, wolf spiders or anything else that dies quick.) Having to click through mass amounts of corpses to loot a couple items. I see nothing wrong or game breaking about this feature. In fact, 99% of the nay sayers would be the first ones to use it. It's a simple and VERY EFFECTIVE tool.


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    You mad bro?
     
  32. Ricsreturn

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    it's funny seeing players I knew years ago come on here now as self righteous do gooders of UO just blows me away when my ICQ archives tosses their credibility out the window
     
  33. pgib

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    It can be done in theory (or at least you can do that with external program in freeshards) and wouldn't be a bad thing to have - if you pvm you know how messed up the battle field can become, then trying to figure out what corpse has been drained and what not could be a real pain, no matter how many guildmates you have around.

    But scripts like that are fraught with problems. Looting actually involves several server calls so it depends obviously from the actual connection speed. Judging from the effects, the item transfer process is not transactional ("you can't pick..." bug anyone, btw to get rid of it when it happens just drag something in a slot of an EC toolbar, that clears the dnd poll) so the chances to block the dnd system are pretty high, especially if the connection stream drops suddenly.

    So you do that using a very conservative timer between subsequent calls, making overally it so slow that noone will ever use it, or you make it fast and useful, then you'll have a lot of players complaining because the dnd system get stuck while they are fighting and they died because they couldn't chug that holy cure potions.

    Very tricky.
     
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    You sound like the crybaby.

    No one in Felluca wants or ever asked for "Easy Mode"... Trammel is "Easy Mode". Trammel is as "Carebear Land" as it gets. You're delusional.

    And why try to turn this thread into a Tram vs Fel thing? Geez.... What a terrible post.

    Regarding the original post. I'd be happy to see some type of auto-loot feature included. There are many different systems in many games. This hasn't been updated in UO for quite some time... Maybe we're due for a looting update, whatever that may be.
     
  35. Njjj

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    The floor littered with corpses problem is solved with ec/pincos ui.
     
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    Are you trying to make other people cry? That's what happens when you suggest improvements other games have made(most likely based on UO) to their game. Every time a system from another game is implemented in UO god kills puppies. Truth.

    It is our right as old grumpy dial up relics to demand that everything we do in UO be uphill both ways through 4 feet of snow.

    and further more:

    Damn kids get off my lawn!
     
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    I may well be wrong, but I have a feeling that be it Felucca or Trammel or Ilshenar or Stygian Abyss or wherever in UO, it already is possible to use an auto-loot capability.....
    Whether it is allowed or not, that is another story.........
     
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    Right-click in EC works quite well. Extended item properties listings and color-coding for properties in custom UIs makes it even better.
     
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    I know the right click to loot system in the EC is really handy. Not quite autolooting but close
     
  40. Sevin0oo0

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    don't just filter out the non-magical, min resist stats, blue bone armor, just delete them so it's perma gone. and if nothing else, ibtl
     
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    Loot..it's not just for breakfast anymore...claw your way thru it for lunch and dinner too!! :scholar:
     
  42. Explain how you'd stop unattended macroers from abusing this system day in and day out, and I'll be on board with this change.
     
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    Explain how you stop them now? As long as 3rd party programs are being developed for this game they will always be used. Whether it's a few strings of code or a few hundred. If someone whats to do it, it will be done.
     
  44. Are you actually arguing that because people are cheating with this mechanic now, it's a reason to implement it?

    Sign me up for duping all my precious items please. After all, if cheaters are doing it, let's legitimize it! Level the playing field.
     
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    No genius. You're the one who asked how he'd stop scripters from using it. He just pointed out that they don't even NEED IT since they ALREADY HAVE IT via scripts. Yeah gee, legit players can't have auto-looting, otherwise scripters would use it to... uh... do something... that they're already doing. Way to go there champ.

    Whining about scripters is 100% irrelevant here. It's just a red herring from luddites who think the U in UO is for "uncooperative interface" and insist that their views be forced on everyone else.

    I don't care if YOU think having to click, click, drag, click to pick up one item is the very soul of UO and never ever use auto-looting at all. But some of us are normal people.
     
  46. You don't have a lot of friends, do you?
     
  47. Elicia

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    So all the post this week asking for higher loot drop rates in the Felucca Shame were actually supposed to have been for Trammel?

    So all of the post over the last few years asking for things only in Felucca, or higher drop rates only in Felucca were accidentally miss-typed and they meant to type Trammel?

    You are saying that Felucca does not have double resources because the players in Felucca asked for it? (Double resources = easy mode)

    Your saying that Felucca dungeons do not have higher fame rates because Felucca players asked for it? (Double fame = easy mode)

    So the higher drop rate of marties in Felucca virtue dungeons was not requested by Felucca players? (Higher drop rate = easy mode)

    So your saying that Felucca players have been demanding to take the direct deposit of gold into their bank boxes from kills away? (Direct deposit of the gold into the bank box = easy mode)

    Your welcome to make nasty remarks on my post, but please back them up by refuting the facts...tell me that all double resources does not exist, or direct deposits of gold for kills is not real...and that all of the posts made this week did not demand higher drop rates in Felucca Shame ....Felucca is easy mode because the Felucca plays on this board demand the perks....
     
  48. Felonious Monk

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    Actually double loot and fame is bait that was implemented to draw people back to a place they hated. Its still appears empty to most. It isn't. It is an xlnt resource for the game unless you value pvp. Pvp killed itself long ago........
     
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    Double resources (of all levels) for mining/lumberjacking with no risk of anything bad happening = "Easy Mode"

    I take my miner to Fel 100% of the time for mining and have never had any PvP related death there in well over 4 years when I started to do so.

    On the other side of the coin, getting ganked in PvP = "Easy mode" on both sides. There's no challenge, the person being ganked is dead, the gankers get quick, free loot at no real risk.

    So can we stop with the "Easy mode" bovine squeezings? Thanks.
     
  50. the simple risk is being killed and having all those resources taken.

    most players in felucca are there to engage in challenging fights with other players, not looking for players to kill for their ingots, wood, or other resources.

    why waste time hunting down crafters when we can enjoy our real fights or champ spawns?

    to pvp these days, you usually have to be pretty darn rich in terms of UO gold to buy the high end artifacts and items that are available. you think players are going to waste their time to find a miner to kill to take his 2000 ingots?

    come on people.