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Can we have passengers on mounts?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by DJAd, Aug 5, 2013.

  1. DJAd

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    I was thinking yesterday how cool it would be if we could take other players on the back of our mounts.

    One person to “drive” and the other can simply sit on the back or shoot spells or something.

    What do you guys think?

    EDIT - I have added this to the "tweaks and suggestions" thread. Have any of the players suggestions ever been used does anybody know?
     
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  2. SlobberKnocker

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    I always wanted the ability to raid a brigand camp and capture and subdue a female lass and make her my house wench. I could beat her into submission and throw her on the back of my mount, take her back to my castle...
     
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  3. cazador

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    Would make sync dumping more fun..like the idea though, not sure it would work..but who knows lol
     
  4. Petra Fyde

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    I'm not sure this could work. Someone would be handing over control of his character to another person, could that be done?
     
  5. Spellbound

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    Maybe if the rider were in the follow mode?
     
  6. DJAd

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    It already kind of happens with boats.
     
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    I'm not riding *****:eek:
     
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  8. Zosimus

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    There are MMO's that already have this feature. Wizard 101 and WoW are just two examples.
     
  9. WarderDragon

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    That's awesome.
     
  10. Blaeke

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    I was just wondering the same thing last week when I noticed all the room available on swamp dragons and banes.

    UO, Mesanna, please make it happen!! :cool:


     
  11. G.v.P

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    We have to find a way to do it in UO, though.

    I think the boat concept--piloting a boat and being locked in position--should be a conversation starter. But there hasn't been a movable land multi since 1997. There must be a reason. After that, you need to consider how such a multi would be built. You need to prevent something like a land ship because there could be issues as far as creating an exploitable situation in the context of PvM or PvP. Imagine you're fighting a mage and you're a dexxer and you decide to pop your horse carriage or whatever, which makes it so you can cast spells but the dexxer can't get in melee range. Likewise, imagine popping up your caravan in the middle of a champ spawn to avoid melee critters from getting at you.

    To me, the multi would have to be closed in someway, so none of the inhabitants could have line of sight out, and there would need to be restrictions as far as regions in which they could be placed, as well as insta-deed markers.

    Edit: NM, OP is asking for dual ride mounts, so there wouldnt be any issues as far as dexxers would be concerned, or exploit type things.

    Hrm. So I guess then the question would be a matter of what animation graphics would need to be made in order for the second rider to look correct.
     
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  12. Giggles

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    No...
    Just no......
     
  13. Warpig Inc

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    New casters shapechange series of mounts. DC players in mount form to ride. Dismount weapons still apply. SE weapon can damage player also that is in mount form making them the agro for PVP reasons. Area damage in this case damages both players. In certain forms a player has an elemental breath weapon attack. Some forms could instead of an attack could have a type of status regn ability bled from their own stat. Teleport mount form with a serious cooldown between use. A shapechange form that has stealth ability based on their hiding and stealth, but the movement speed of a rowboat. Classic reflect spell ability in one form with chance mount absorbs damage instead of reflection. Stegasuarus form that in this form while ridden 30% missle attack damages mount form player instead. Cross healing form if player mount has healing/anat.
     
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  14. Kage

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    Lol Just NO!
     
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    This.
     
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    No!

    Terrible idea in too many ways to even fit in one post.

    And why? For no other reason then to allow someone to mash macros without having to guide their character at the same time? Lol at that. Being the driver sounds like a lot of fun though. Not!
     
  18. Zosimus

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    I was responding more to Petra's question.

    This part I am not responding to Petra but just saying my opinion.....

    It can be done on other games but UO I hardly doubt it. UO code is mixed with old and new. Two clients on top of that. Just cant see it done even though when the Hyrus were introduced into UO they said flying dragons but they do not fly.


    Truly if you want features like this and other stuff from other games ( which is borrowing from them) you may as well just play those other games.
     
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  19. G.v.P

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    Well, the true limitation--I think--is the fact this game is grid based. So, you have the asset to sit, and ride...but the question is, what would it look like for people to be two (or one) tiles apart and riding the same thing? I want to try a mockup when I have time.

    I like doing mockups:

    [​IMG]

    As for flying creatures, the original Nightmare could in fact fly. They had to remove flight, however, because people were able to break into ships and houses. There are technical hurdles, like making sure the animation assets look right, and then there are exploit hurdles, like collision detection and Z-Axis woes.
     
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  20. cazador

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    Regardless though, there are about 5,000 other things they need to work on, finish, polish, tweak, debug, before try add a new bug ridden aspect into the game.
     
  21. G.v.P

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    [​IMG]

    okay, here's a quick mockup using a ridgeback level mount and a boura ethy level mount one tile behind, assuming the ridgeback didn't in fact have a ridgeback ;P. boura ethy is the lowest z-axis mount in game to my knowledge, while the unicorn is the highest. not sure if we could go lower than the boura. would have to do more testing to see how other mounts would look like, but I suppose the passenger could remain in the "standing" sprite while moving to avoid needed new animations. assuming no changes to the x or y, imagine the passenger to be positioned up or down from its current point (if you used a the same level one tile behind it would look pretty weird, so you end up needing to go down a few in the z-axis for things to look right...which could be an issue).
     
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  22. startle

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    It would be cool, but probably way to much work to get the code right...
    However, I'd love to see newbies hanging out on Brit road with their thumbs out or a robe that says "Mongbats killed for ride to Vesper"... ;)
     
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  23. THP

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    Ethy snake rider.. upto 5 players...wow
     
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  24. Victim of Siege

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    we'd call it the "Gank Bus"
     
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  25. DJAd

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    Ok maybe not have passenger that can attack, just let them sit.
     
  26. MalagAste

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    Always thought it'd be cool to have elephants that we could ride that would act like a "land boat".... with a pack in the back to store things like a boat and you can have people on it just like a boat... double click the rope and up you go on the elephant. Would be pretty cool.
     
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  27. temu

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    Coming from a guy who plays PlanetSide 2, I can assure you that being a driver or a passenger in a multiplayer vehicle is insanely fun. Especially when the passenger is able to shoot at things (though, their field of view is usually restricted in some form or another). We have a two player ATV that is very fast and it is quite useful when you, or someone, is accidently stranded in the wilderness and they need a quick ride.

    I like the idea!
     
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