I went on a VP run with some randoms tonight and had a stranger than usual experience. Aside from the 61 laff blue dog who didn't execute a single gag, when three of us managed to finish off the skelecogs (blue dog bit it) my pies wouldn't force the VP back. I thought I was just throwing them too low. After about thirty minutes I found myself alone and the VP back at the top of the ramp. I could stun him but once stunned, my pies did nothing when they hit him on the body. Since he was at the top of the ramp I was behind him and didn't have enough time to run to the front to hit him after stunning. Do the pies have to come from the front to force him back or did I just run into some weird glitch? I will say I got lots of practice avoiding the gears he throws but I'm still not very consistent with hitting the undercarriage. I've gotten really good at jumping from just listening.