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Cavern of the discarded VITAVI renowned: takes forever to kill ?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by popps, Mar 30, 2014.

  1. popps

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    I am using a Repond slayer Soul Seeker with a vermin Talisman.

    Yet, it takes me forever to kill this guy. What am I doing wrong ?
    I am 120 Swords, 120 tactics and 120 Anatomy.

    Thanks.
     
  2. DJAd

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    I use a weapon with armor ignore special move when I'm down there.
     
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    He has 50,000 hit points popps. If you tick off damage at 100 units every 1.25 seconds, that's still 12.5 seconds per 1000 hit points. Multiply that by 50. That gives you 625 seconds or ~10.5 min.

    I may have done my math wrong, but that looks about right.

    Those numbers are if you are keeping your stamina high enough to swing every 1.25 seconds. Even if you double your damage to 200 per tick, that's still about a 5 min fight without letup.
     
  4. Picus of Napa

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    If I recall there is a spot or two that you can trap him so it can't walk away while low on HP, from that point forward it's mostly AFK.
     
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    So boring. I used to literally read a book when I was hunting that guy trying to get the berserker chest. Lure all the small dudes out into the tinker area and your in like 0 danger. Real snore. Gave up eventually.
     
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    There is no better template to do the cavern of Discarded ?

    I did all 3 ratmen renowned and they are pretty much the same as it takes forever to get them killed....

    Is there perhaps a better template that can kill them fast ?

    Thanks.
     
  7. kRUXCg7

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    Maybe Discordance might help?
     
  8. G.v.P

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    Another thing you can do is tame two Bouras for additional damage. I used to do that on my Sampire to keep things going a little faster.
     
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    Well, you can always:

    Have a Tamer with a Greater Dragon and a long loop heal macro running, log in on your first account...

    Have a Bard with Discordance and running damage boost continuously, log in on your second account...

    Have a loaded out Sampire, log in on your third account...

    Then log in your Mage/Mystic/Weaver from your fourth account....

    And go to town.

    :D
     
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    Well, perhaps there "may be" a reason why often one finds the cavern of Discarded renowned wandering about.... because players just let them be.........

    And why do players let them be ?? Perhaps, "just" perhaps because they are not worth the time it takes to kill them ??

    My guess, if a monster is not hunted, is that I "suspect" that perhaps something is wrong with that particular spawn otherwise, players would go for it, would not they ?
     
  11. wanderer1origin

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    if you have talimans try a harder hitting weapon than soulseeker or one that you can rock AI with or double strike get honor if sampire also helps
     
  12. Winter

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    You don't need to trap them (or any other MOB). Once they get below 20% health, you can just pull up the hit bar and continuously double-click on it to keep them from walking away.
     
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  13. Winter

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    To me, they are worth killing. I frequently go through the area, and if I see a mini-champ boss just hanging out, I get either my sampire or mystic mage and finish it off. Sometimes you get luck and get an artifact. The last mini-champ gave me the Insane Tinker Legs.

    So, if you find it boring, I'll be more than happy to take over for you!
     
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    Or get them trapped and not bother....50K hp's at 20% is still 10K and still another fair length of time clicking away.
     
  15. Winter

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    Yeah, no wonder my arthritis my finger is kicking up! But, old habits die hard.
     
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    I do the spawn with a sampire, which includes bushido. As has been pointed out, the renowned rat goes down much faster with a longsword or katana rather than a soulseeker because of armor ignore. I also helps greatly if you remember to honor the big rat, if you have bushido. I also find consecrate weapon helps. I also cast enemy of one when the other critters except for the little rats are gone to see if that boosts my damage . The little rats can be your friends. I switch back to soulseeker every once in a while to regain mana with whirlwind when a bunch of rats starting coming around again. But overall, I only do this spawn every once in a while to see if I can get a crystal shard or two from the spawn - I'm not expecting anything from the renowned, although a white pearl is nice since I don't fish. Basically, the only reason I bother killing the renowned is to restart the spawn to try again for a crystal shard. But, yes, the whole thing gets old real fast, and I only do it occasionally. Frankly, I find it one of the more bothersome spawns.
     
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    Disco sampire chaining AI would be the best I wager, but it still takes like 15 minutes of relentless whacking.
     
  18. Uvtha

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    If you don't need any of the artis it drops, and your probably don't, then its not worth doing really.
     
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    Were you implying the renowned rat can drop the insane tinker legs? I thought they dropped only from the renowned devourer (abyssal infernal spawn) and the wyvern (faery dragon and forgotten servant spawn). Do I have a chance of getting them from other spawns as well?
     
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    rats dont drop tinkers :)

    now popps will want to hunt tinker legs lol :)

    rtas drop random things just got 2 seeds in last few minutes lol
     
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    biggest things rats drop is seeds, white pearls, mining gems, essence of balance
     
  22. Emil Ispep

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    Used to do this spawn pretty frequently. If I had the time, id stay and kill Tikitavi. I did the afk method lol. Id do enemy of one, parasitic poison and use a nights kiss... then go have a smoke.. make a sandwich.. whatever. Every couple of minutes, id come back, re-cast enemy of one and parasitic poison him again. Once he gets down to about 1/5th health, hell start trying to wander. Just pull up his health bar, and dbl click him to keep him next to ya while you finish him.

    Killed between 40 and 50 I think... not 1 artifact lol. He drops the normal ratman loot.. imbuing ingreds (crushed glass, crystal shards, essence of balance, seeds, crystalized blackrock, elven fletching, lodestone, delicate scales, abyssal cloth) think that's all of them hehe.

    He has a chance to drop one of 3 arties (Basilisk Hide, Legacy of Despair, Mystics Garb) but like I said, did around 40 or 50 and not one drop =/.

    http://www.uoguide.com/Artifacts_(Stygian_Abyss)
     
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    Bladed staff correctly crafted for armor ignores, on a 120 bush sampire. Discorder standing by. Massive damage, Easy kills..but still takes a while. Doesn't hurt to have a pet or two attacking it as well. Used to just go down with two tamers packing GD and draw the biggies to them..let them do their job while sampire goes around and cleans up.
     
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    i used to farm there. im not gonna lie it was very boring and i did it afk for the boss. or while watching tv at least. takes about 5 mins to kill with one guy. i would have 2 charcters there bring him down faster.

    ditch the soulseeker. it was good in 2005 but it has really low damage, no damge increase. bladed staff on swords sampire is your best freind. only need 20ssi to swing at max speed down to 150 stam.
     
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    When I played I used a 4/6 pally with the soulweaver and a rat talisman. Btw I had no healing and used all chiv spells for curing and healing

    I also used pots for dex and curing. Cast enemy of one and divine fury during the fight.

    Never ran out of mana on the character because of my suit set up with man regen.

    Took about 4 to 5 mins to kill it.

    Really not that hard and not to long for a boss.
     
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    I use a Greater Dragon and a chair to kill the Renown. Say All Kill, pull chair out of backpack, sit and watch! I got two Basilisk Hide Breastplates in a row one day.

    Katrena
     
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    Hehe..true that :)
     
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    No, as the others have said, the rats don't drop the Tinker Legs.

    What I was trying to say is that for whatever reason, people will work through all of the spawns in the SA dungeon, but leave the mini-champ boss. I like to go through the dungeon, kill off the bosses, and sometimes I get lucky with an arty drop.
     
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    Cavern of the discarded VITAVI renowned -> Tavern of the ******** VITAVI disowned
     
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    I hadn't done the cavern of the discarded spawn for a long time, so I ran it twice today on my sampire to refresh my memory. I got 3 seeds of renewal and 2 crystal shards in less than an hour. Killing Vitavi took 12 minutes each time with a repond slayer katana using honor and armor ignore. As you know, seeds and crystal shards are expensive resources (around 500k for 10 if you find them on Legends, which is almost always cheaper than Atlantic). So that's maybe 250k worth of ingredients in less than an hour. I imagine making Vitavi hard to kill is intended to keep everybody from farming the spawn all the time for the seeds and crystal shards.
     
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    popps, Take a friend. Split the loot!

    I use a high HPR suit so I don't need to divert attention for heals. Keep the consecrate when using Repond for the whirl wind is nice when his buddies are there. You might want to make a special weapon just for him though. Repond 100% Poison or Energy. Fasted speed, then add Max DI Max SSI Max HCI. Can't fit it all but test what would do the most. Toss in some Dex adding things to get more swings. That's about the only way to shave off time. My char has limited mana but using special may benefit you. Every damage help(hurts!)
     
  32. Winter

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    Use cursed armor to max stats. I have one or two backups for most pieces, but I've yet to loose anything except a CBR shield on my sampire.
     
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    First off, ditch the Soul Seeker and get an AI or double strike weapon with hit lightning. You dont need a slayer weapon if you've got a vermin slayer talisman, your probably already gonna be at the damage cap. Make sure your weapon has HIGH mana leech. A 100% energy weapon is best as its the all around lowest resistance for everything down there. Your temp is fine for there, its your weapon. I also carry a cleaver set in the quick switch weapons macro to lay down bleed and poison (human JOATfor noxing the knife) for extra damage.

    Specific weapons for specific situations is one major key to this game :)
     
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    This should be broken out for emphasis - so true .
     
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    I use a sampire with a repond bladed staff 100mana leech 50 stam 75life I think..with 180 stam 20ssi on suit and breeze thru almost all SA spawns minus the stupid faery one..those humanoid MOBs on the third level I think are a real kick to the face when it comes to breezing thru


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    Side note for Cazador :

    I LOVE that spawn cause I can farm it for hours and rarely see anyone. When I get +20k karma from doing T-maps or other spawns, I head down there for a few hrs of fun and burn it off. I love those lil blue elvish [email protected] :)
     
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    What kind of character are you using against them (I think we're talking about forgotten servants)? My bard simply provokes them onto each other, and my GD can handle them fine, but I don't like the time it takes to kill them on my sampire.
     
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    dashio for feint works well on them.
     
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    Interesting idea..I'll have to give that a shot..can't leech much and they hit pretty hard


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    Not trying to Hijack the thread so I won't say much but yea its the forgotten servants. I do them on a bard-ish char. There's alil trick I've figured out that makes it easier and faster which I'm hesitant to say :eyes: otherwise the spot may see a lot more visitors ;)
     
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    Please tell us more.
     
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    I used a Mystic discorder on them, myself. very quick and easy.
     
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    Thank you very much.

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