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change the hardcap for speed...

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Cho hag, Jan 10, 2009.

  1. Cho hag

    Cho hag Guest

    since speeders supposedly ain't doing anything "illegal" but only getting there speed bumbed up towards the speed hardcap that this game has that is otherwise impossible to reach if u ain't using a third party prog...

    then what about setting the hardcap of speed down to what normal players run at then speeders would have to actually hack the servers to optain additional speed...which is I guess easier to detect than what progs they use on there computer.
     
  2. UOKaiser

    UOKaiser Guest

    Ok then whats the normal player speed dial up?Examples- wireless speed,768/384, 1mbps/384/,3mbps/768,7.1 MBps/768, 10mbps cable, 50 mbps doscis 3.0, fiber, t1,t2,t3, Badly configured system, Killer network card,regular network card,100mps network,1 gig network, short distance to co. long distance to co. Badly configured system,Good configured sytem,High latency,low latency,Kr enhance client responses,2d ancient client responses,Less hops path,long hops path,interweave or fastpath connections.

    Mix and match and pick?
     
  3. Sephy

    Sephy Guest

    People ping around 10-30 = uber fast, some people ping 100-200.

    How can the high pinging people compete without there uber leet speed h4x?

    with both speeding, they work out same speed with the high pinging player only having a slight advantage..

    SpeeD is NEEDED for some peoples connections to be viable in this game
     
  4. Cho hag

    Cho hag Guest

    I would say hardcap around what u can run in 2d with 50-70ping on an average computer...

    should make most ppl the same speed...
     
  5. Dragkiris

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    Truth. When I lived in MS I'm not going to say I didnt use it to compete where I had a ping of 80-100, but now that I moved to Va where I ping 15 tops I will say I dont use it cause it offers me no help.
     
  6. Cho hag

    Cho hag Guest

    please don't come with that old claim that someone with 10-30ping runs same speed as someone with speeder on it's simply not true

    I ping around 35to eu server no one there not speeding can outrun me

    ppl with speeder I can clearly see skipping on my screen...

    only way to fix this as the gm's doesn't ban speeders is to change the hardcap to what a regular player with 50-70ping playing on an average computer run at.
     
  7. Sephy

    Sephy Guest

    ok, think of it this way..

    2 dexxers fighting. dexxer 1 gets low and starts to run, dexxer 2 see's he is running and runs after with a 2 tile difference, but because everyone runs at the same speed dexxer 1 heals up with dexxer 2 still 2 tiles away behind him.

    Dexxer 1 turns around, gets dexxer 2 low, dexxer 2 runs away with a two tile difference, dexxer 1 runs after but cant get kill shot.

    dexxer 2 heals up and turns around and... well... repeats

    endless pvp where people dont even die.
     
  8. WarUltima

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    I can see people clearly skipping on my screen too. But one thing that's strange... GM skips exactly like them so I am really confused. If you are lucky to have a GM following you when they actually showed up in responding to your page then look closely...
     
  9. Cho hag

    Cho hag Guest

    rofl pure rofl mate


    if u can't kill someone without having superior speed than the one you are fighting then you simply do not deserve to kill him/her.

    another great reason to make another hardcap for speed as having superior speed than someone else gives them a clear advantage in all aspects of the game


    PS warultima I never been lucky enough to get stalked by a gm but I would imagine that speedcaps doesn't apply to them

    would give them some trouble atleast if it did or actually would explain why they never answer they are out chasing speeders and can't catch up...jeje
     
  10. Omnius

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    I used to ping about 600 when I emulated windows to play UO. I ping like 40ish to any east coast shard. My speed is very very fast, the only folks I see that are faster run faster than people mounted while on foot. In all honesty, I see maybe 5-10 people per shard at that speed, everyone else is in pretty even standing though the sync in client locations does make it hard to gauge exactly what tile someone is on at that precise moment while both are moving.
     
  11. Coyt

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    in comparssion where the only the slow players die?
     
  12. Coyt

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    also bring back stamina to mounts
     
  13. Harlequin

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    Partially beacause when pushed to the limit of the existing hard-coded movement cap, the people running these 3rd party programs are moving at 0 ping (or close). Almost like GMs that are connected to the server via LAN.

    A blanket change to the hardcap would affect(handicap) the GMs as well.

    This happens to free servers as well. Since the people hosting the servers are loathe to cap their own speed, what some do instead is have a warning message to alert GMs and flag the players that exceeds a certain movement threshold. This will allow them to tag the people that seems to consistently run around like the Flash and take action.
     
  14. Cheat much?
     
  15. Petrify

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    Not true. Kingdom Reborn has an in built speedhack, which is actually quicker than a speedhack, however because people don't use KR, nobody notices.
     
  16. Cho hag

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    ok I'll refrase that impossible to reach unless u use a third party prog or kr (which very few ppl use for pvp)
     
  17. Diomedes Artega

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    I haven't used KR as of yet. Is that to help compensate against the people that speedhack? Did they do that to make it more beneficial for people who have slow computers like me? lol Just wondering since I really don't know.
     
  18. Cho hag

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    if u have a slow computer then kr won't help u what so ever it only helps ppl with good computers and a good con...

    played it a few times and actually managed to outrun several known speeders on my shard when using it. only trouble is it is unplayable for a mage really so i can't be assed using it...

    besides shouldn't be forced into using a client that have never been finished just to gain the same advantage that other ppl get by using an illegal third party prog. + computer and connection speed would decide many battles if all was kr think they should cap the speed at what an average player can run at no mather what client they go with.

    1 it will help vs speeders

    2 it will make the game more equal in the way that ppl living closer to a server don't gain an unfair speed advantage to ppl living further away from the server...
     
  19. Turdnugget

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    I was accused of using a speedhack the other day when I was playing on my lunchbreak at work on my Dell 6000 Inspiron Laptop. It has nothing fancy... it plays the game pretty alright. I was only pinging around 30-40 on my work's
    T1 line and was accused of using speeder.

    I've done tests in KR with a guildie. And it is a lot faster than 2d. Mainly because when you turn around, run around objects, there isn't that slight delay like in the 2d client. Turns in KR are a LOT smoother. I started to lap my guildie running around a tree, and he pings pretty well on the same server. Granted this was with my connection at home which is Qwest and isn't really high speed either. I ping around 70 at home.

    It sucks when people are faster than you... especially the ones who 'claim' they are pinging around 10. I dunno if that's true or not... I wanna know where they live and how much they spend on Internet a month... If they're spending lots of money on the net so they can be fast for online games... good job for them wasting real money on pixels to feel cool IRL. =)
     
  20. Sephy

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    u wish I cheated then you would have an excuse why you suck so much
     
  21. Nystul

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