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Computer help needed

Discussion in 'UO Siege Perilous' started by Spree, Oct 21, 2008.

  1. Spree

    Spree Babbling Loonie
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    My computer has started to reboot all by it self. It has done it 2x tonight and has been happening for a few weeks. I don't want to buy a new computer just yet since I'm tight on cash this month after getting a new truck and making tax payments.
     
  2. K'torr

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    I'm no computer geek, but it could be a problem with the power supply.
    If it's starting to go and not providing enough power for your system components, this could cause it to reboot.

    If this is so, good news is Power Supplies are inexpensive and easy to replace.
     
  3. Lorddog

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    look in your control panel > admistration tools > event viewer

    xp has application, security and system
    look for error logged around the time of a reboot.

    vista has windows logs > then application, security and system

    this event should probably be in the system log

    also if you right click My Computer and choose properties then advanced then startup and recovery it should have a check box for automatically restart and that is what causes it to reboot. if unchecked you probably get a blue screen. anyhow tell us what you find.

    Lorddog
     
  4. shipwrek

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    I would try these things, in this order, waiting to see if it is fixed between each one.

    1. open the case and blow out all the dust, preferably with something that has power, like a sweeper that does that.

    2. re-seat the cards and memory chips, cables, etc...

    3. run memory diagnostics

    4. look into some better virus scanning (or something different from what you are using)

    5. punt!
     
  5. Skylark SP

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    Some common hardware/physical culprits for random/abnormal power cycling:

    • Thermal shutdown due to dust blanketing/clogging components or frozen/inoperational fan(s)
    • Poor component connection (cards can wiggle a bit in their sockets due to thermal expansion)
    • Failing power supply
    • Bad capacitors on motherboard - (these are the little peg looking things that stick up from the board. You can sometimes detect the problem by a sharp chemical odor, kind of like vinegar if they have actually ruptured or they might just be leaning to the side a bit, whereas the "good" ones will be perpendicular to the board surface)
    I've only had 1 case where the capacitors on the motherboard were bad that caused this...in that case it wasn't worth fixing as the board was over 5 years old.

    Software can also cause these kinds of problems too.

    -Skylark
     
  6. Spree

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    this all happend at same time 9:08
    Remote access conection manger service entered a running state
    Remote access conection manger service suceccfully sent a start control

    the telphoneny service ented a runing state
    fast user switching compatiblity entered a running state
    termainal service entered a running state
    termainal service was sucessfull sent a start state
    application layer gateway service entered a running state
    " " sucessfully sent a start state control
    network location awaress service entered a running state
    " " sent start controll
    event log sevice started
     
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    Those are normal Windows startup services. What happened before that in the log? Knowing what (if anything) unusual that is software related that happened before it shut down is really what is important. If the logs show nothing unusual, and you aren't getting blue screens or anything, it is likely hardware related.

    -Skylark
     
  8. Spree

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    One of my friends thinks it something over heating. If i have web running it dont do it but if i have uo and IE it does it.
     
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    Does it have a dedicated graphics card or onboard card? Graphics card is likely culprit for overheating as a component because it has its own processor & RAM. Depending on the card it may have its own heat sink(s) and cooling fans too.

    -Skylark
     
  10. Spree

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    it just rebooted again only IE and icq was running it has a nvidiea 7600 card. the older type agp?
     
  11. K'torr

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    Yep, sounds like an overheating problem.
    As was suggested, blow it out and make sure all the fans are running.
     
  12. An old computer I had wouldn't let me switch it off, it would let me 'shut down' but it would keep running so I always had to pull the plug out. Whenever I plugged it back in, it would boot up without me pressing the startup button, and would say windows didn't shutdown properly. If it was on for a long time it would reboot itself also, starting windows normally. This went on for a few months then the power supply to it went on the blink. I got a new power box installed in it and it was fine for another year.
     
  13. JesusChristt

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    i go to school for IT, i'm sure it's over heating from all the dust that's collected inside of your PC. blow all that crap out and take your CPU heat sink off and make sure that's dust free also, and TaDa
     
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    suck, dont blow!!!!
     
  15. Spree

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    I took the heat sink off blew it clean, removed memory blew it out, pulled out the video card and blew it out too. Vacuumed out the power supple it ran 10 mins and it rebooted.
     
  16. Azural Kane

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    virus
    or bad power supply
     
  17. Vortex

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    Spree, I assume this is windows xp..

    1. Did you recent update to Service Pack 3 and do you have an AMD processor?

    2. Go to the properties on My Computer, click Advanced, Click Startup and Recovery, Settings, then uncheck the box that says Automatically Restart. Next time it crashes it should throw you an error instead of just rebooting. Post that error here please.
     
  18. Spree

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    I been running SP3 since juneish and it a Intel P4 2.4 gighz. It has been running for 1.5 hours so far. I'm rescanning it. the definition are from 5 hours ago.
     
  19. Spree

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    It scanned OK. My friend just brought over a power supple and we swapped that out the old one is filled with dust and cat fur. The new one is quiet.
     
  20. Lorddog

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    this what it looked like?

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    or this?
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  21. JesusChristt

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    Dust = baaaaaad