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DCI is POINTLESS over 45 and HLD drops DCI by 20???

Discussion in 'UHall' started by WarUltima, Jan 18, 2010.

  1. WarUltima

    WarUltima Babbling Loonie
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    A poster from a different thread post about how UO has a hardcap of 45 HCI and DCI, and overcapping DCI will not do anything about HLD. And he said HLD would drop your defense by 20...

    From my understanding, HCI/DCI is indeed capped at 45. But by over capping DCI to 70 it will nullify the effect of HLD. Because HLD lowers DCI by 25 and with 70 DCI this means (70-25=45) you will still be at cap DCI... correct?
     
  2. Saint of Killers

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    You are correct.
     
  3. WarUltima

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    I just looked up uoguide and found the page explaining HLD.
    http://www.uoguide.com/Hit_Lower_Defense

    It said about it lowers 25 DCI and said HLD proofing is possible by having a total of 70 DCI...

    Yea, I was just confused because he seem to be confidence that he's correct and told me I need to "think" before I state the "facts". For 1 sec I almost thought he was right and was trying to find the patch note about the change.

    Thanks for replying.
     
  4. Risso

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    You were arguing in another UHall thread so you made a NEW one just to argue about the same thing?
     
  5. ZidjiN

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    i answered on a question like this in another thread. I Hope your not missquoting me here.

    Anyway. Yes you are correct.
    70 DCI will is what you should have on your suit if you want to stay at 45%dci after HLD.
     
  6. Cetric

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    I never religiously tested anything, but i can tell you that when i ran 45 dci and saw the "your defense chance has been lowered" message, i would get hit a ton, but now that i run 70 dci, and i see that message, i see no difference in the amount i am hit.
     
  7. Restroom Cowboy

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    Yeah it appears I was wrong...sorry. Sometimes I should just not trust the words of wisdom from our own development staff. Even when they express their assurance in being correct.


    Did you feel I would get upset with being wrong? As I stated quite clearly before...I have no issues admitting making a mistake and never have a problem with aplogizing.



    On the flipside...why the hell didnt you just tell me I was wrong via PM...why wait a week to do it with a thread? :lol:
     
  8. jfkeach

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    Because he would spend all his time PMing you and not get anything done. :)
     
  9. Restroom Cowboy

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    Oh...lose the hate already would you? At least I have the cahones to admit when I am wrong...unlike 90% of the fruitcakes here. :lol:
     
  10. Konge

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    If I say I'm wrong do I get a fruitcake?
     
  11. Restroom Cowboy

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    umm...yes? :confused:

    Pie is better...yes pie....mmMmmmm pie. Apple even!
     
  12. Konge

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    But apple keeps the doctor away and the doctors a nice man, like, this one time, at band camp...Purple Ancient wyrm pop star spawning from shield...Angry tanget... Rainbow sprinkles... Was awesome.
     
  13. A Rev

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    Probably because it wasn't you who told him that.

    I did in a different thread yesterday because i was under the impression that there was a recent update placing a hard cap on DCI.

    Apparantly i am wrong.
     
  14. Restroom Cowboy

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    lol...you too eh? join the club! :)
     
  15. Taylor

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    I'm wrong, too!
     
  16. Restroom Cowboy

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    YAY! :grouphug:
     
  17. Harlequin

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    I have great respect for people that admits their mistakes *salutes*

    Just curious, did you change you mind due to the UOGuide article, or was it something else?

    If it was UOGuide, do you trust UOGuide more than the DCI stats shown on the EC client?


    Fyi, UOGuide has great info and I use it regularly.
     
  18. A Rev

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    Ill be completely honest and say the only reason i now think im wrong, is not because of what anyone has written or what is on uoguide...

    Its because of what isn't written.

    I have yet to find anything to substantiate my "belief" so...i must be wrong...although im still sure it was mentioned somewhere at sometime, i dont normally just make things up lol
     
  19. jfkeach

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    I have been married twice and have 6 sisters :) I am constantly saying I was wrong...
     
  20. Demonous

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    if you can pull off 70 dci on a suit and have it be a good overall suit still, then props to you
     
  21. Tinsil

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    Pretty easy with faction gear. 25 on Headpiece, 15-20 on Chest/Legs, 5 Quiver, then a like 2m imbued wep with -mage and DCI. Or use a DCI ring, etc.
    Without faction gear, still doable but tougher to work.
     
  22. WarUltima

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    Its also much much much easier for someone to get 45 hci with reasonable amount of HLD than the few selections of artifacts and/or huge mods expenditure to get 70dci.